2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Right and the problem actually is that Howie can’t both trade Brown and void Goedert as that would be a massive cap issue.

Right. The only thing Howie can't do cap wise is trade Brown AND let Goedert walk. He can easily keep both though. Garafolo is flat out wrong and full of crap.

12 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Why would that matter? They were willing and prepared to hand Jaelan Phillips millions up front and didn't. Then supposedly they were going to do the same for Hendrickson. Signing Ebiketie didn't even put in the dent in the up front money it would have taken for them and in terms of Woolen maybe they spent a little more on corner after losing out on Phillips but I am sure they were budgeting at least half of that in the first place.

Because of the dead cap that hits this year which takes away the cap space we have to operate this year.

10 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Right. The only thing Howie can't do cap wise is trade Brown AND let Goedert walk. He can easily keep both though. Garafolo is flat out wrong and full of crap.

yes

All holes plugged. Lombardi acquired.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Because of the dead cap that hits this year which takes away the cap space we have to operate this year.

There is only a dead cap hit if they trade Brown and let Goedert walk. Garafolo is saying the Eagles can't afford to KEEP both which makes zero sense. Had he said they can't afford to lose both he would be correct. They will benefit greatly by keeping both on the field and then in terms of not incurring a dead cap hit for either of them.

19 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Why would that matter? They were willing and prepared to hand Jaelan Phillips millions up front and didn't. Then supposedly they were going to do the same for Hendrickson. Signing Ebiketie didn't even put in the dent in the up front money it would have taken for them and in terms of Woolen maybe they spent a little more on corner after losing out on Phillips but I am sure they were budgeting at least half of that in the first place.

And they might be on the verge of trading for Greenard and giving him a new contract and all that money because they missed out on Phillips and maybe Hendrickson. It’s not like they don’t have multiple plans on how to potentially use that money.

I think it’s all semantics. Can’t afford in reality means they don’t want to pay all that money on offense.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

And they might be on the verge of trading for Greenard and giving him a new contract and all that money because they missed out on Phillips and maybe Hendrickson. It’s not like they don’t have multiple plans on how to potentially use that money.

I think it’s all semantics. Can’t afford in reality means they don’t want to pay all that money on offense.

Too bad they cant just keep pushing back the void till after the draft. If they land one of the top TEs then you dont need him. If they land a mid-tier guy, then maybe you want him around another year so your draft pick can start off as a TE2.

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

And they might be on the verge of trading for Greenard and giving him a new contract and all that money because they missed out on Phillips and maybe Hendrickson. It’s not like they don’t have multiple plans on how to potentially use that money.

I think it’s all semantics. Can’t afford in reality means they don’t want to pay all that money on offense.

Fair but I wouldn't consider that semantics. Not being able to afford both and choosing how to allocate their money and only wanting to pay one of them is completely different in my opinion. From a cap perspective it benefits them greatly to keep both as well. I just don't see why Goedert would continue to push back his free agency date if there weren't some assurances that he is getting a new deal. If that isn't the case he is only hurting his ability to get paid as much as possible on what might be his last NFL deal other than cheap one year deals. This isn't just the Eagles choosing to push back the date, it's Goedert as well.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Too bad they cant just keep pushing back the void till after the draft. If they land one of the top TEs then you dont need him. If they land a mid-tier guy, then maybe you want him around another year so your draft pick can start off as a TE2.

That would be a crappy way to treat a player who has been such a great Eagle for several years.

20 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

All holes plugged. Lombardi acquired.

White Lightning falls to us, and Rutledge in the 5th… noice.

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Too bad they cant just keep pushing back the void till after the draft. If they land one of the top TEs then you dont need him. If they land a mid-tier guy, then maybe you want him around another year so your draft pick can start off as a TE2.

That would be a massive FU to Goedert

2 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

So we can't both trade Brown AND void Goedert. Seems people are getting confused thinking we can't keep both Brown and Goedert but in reality they can't lose both at this point. If they keep Brown they can void Goedert and if they trade Brown they have to keep Goedert (or do something else to relieve cap current cap). Is that correct?

If I've understood correctly then it means Goedert holds the cards right now in his negotiation for as long as Howie is looking to trade Brown. Seems like Brown has made it clear he wants out. Hence the deadlock. The easiest way out is to just sign Goedert but that would certainly cost more than Howie wants to pay. Tough spot for Howie. He either has to pay Goedert more than he has planned or trade Brown for less than he wants back.

More, they can only trade AJ before June 1 if they extend DG and reduce his 20mm dead cap charge. If they hold onto AJ, they can let DG walk or resign him.

12 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

White Lightning falls to us, and Rutledge in the 5th… noice.

Yeah I think they need to update rankings. Not sure when it was done last. Its too easy right now.

8 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

More, they can only trade AJ before June 1 if they extend DG and reduce his 20mm dead cap charge. If they hold onto AJ, they can let DG walk or resign him.

Yep, I get it. Without taking a look you’d think they couldn’t keep both players but this is the opposite.

So can they let DG walk now and then trade AJ after June 1? What do the numbers look like in that scenario? I know the Brown cap hit in that scenario would be around half. Is that enough practically?

41 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

All holes plugged. Lombardi acquired.

7 out of 10 Howie’s you broke a trend by drafting a Safety in the first round. No one tells Howie what position he values. -3 points for not over drafting an athletic o-lineman with positional versatility.

8 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No. I think that’s Howies worst nightmare which he has tried to avoid by all his actions.

It’s not like Howie has a set amount of cash he absolutely can’t go over. It’s still a business to him though. They plan to spend X amount of cash in the 2026 year and if he goes $10M to $30M+ more than Lurie anticipated, Howie’s the one that needs to own it. Howie doesn’t have a blank check book, so he needs to make everything work with what’s planned for him to use.

These media guys also aren’t going to go that much in depth about something the general public doesn’t care about. I’d say more than half the time they are just repeating lines they have been fed. It wouldn’t surprise me if Goederts agent was saying that given how long it’s taking to get his deal done with no other team showing any interest in him at all.

I just don't agree, I think if this was the case he'd have just traded him already for a 1st and 3rd. If his worst nightmare would be getting stuck with Brown's money then why play hard ball and shelf trade talks until June when there's no guarantee these offers will be there then?

I think it's as simple as Howie is willing and only willing to move AJ Brown if he gets an offer he can't refuse, other teams have been hesitant to meet that asking price, it's hard to operate in free agency without knowing if you're going to be absorbing that cap hit or not, teams have kept calling with interest keeping the talks alive which was keeping Howie kind of in limbo, and talks recently probably got closer to Howie's "offer he can't refuse" but still didn't get there. Then I think Howie eventually was like enough, I can't keep playing games with these teams, I need to move forward with the rest of my offseason without this cap hit hanging over my head, I'm shutting down AJ Brown trade talks for the foreseeable future, and then that's when Russini's report came out that the Eagles are not trading Brown.

I know the reporters are now saying the talks are dead with AJ until the draft or June 1st. But then why is Dallas's situation getting pushed back yet agin? Wouldn't they have resolved him yesterday once they realized the AJ situation isn't getting done? My read is they will continue to work on the AJ trade this weekend which is why the Dallas situation was pushed back until Monday unless I am just completely off with all this. What a crazy situation this is.

Just now, greendestiny27 said:

I know the reporters are now saying the talks are dead with AJ until the draft or June 1st. But then why is Dallas's situation getting pushed back yet agin? Wouldn't they have resolved him yesterday once they realized the AJ situation isn't getting done? My read is they will continue to work on the AJ trade this weekend which is why the Dallas situation was pushed back until Monday unless I am just completely off with all this. What a crazy situation this is.

I'm not sure Brown and Goedert are connected. If they are I think it's because teams reengaged the Eagles yesterday upping their Brown offers so Howie was like "Let me figure this out and push the void date back one more time to sort through these offers"

But I still don't believe they're connected. I think Goedert's agent is playing hardball because he took a pay cut last year and knows the Eagles absorb a dead cap if he leaves so they're probably entrenched in their demands and the Eagles haven't met them yet. We'll see. The Eagles have been known to quibble with a couple million.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Lowered from what to 9.455? How much extra did we save this year?
Wilson should have added that in there. I think it was 10.275 originally so we save a little over 800 thousand. Not very impactful for this year at least.

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I just don't agree, I think if this was the case he'd have just traded him already for a 1st and 3rd. If his worst nightmare would be getting stuck with Brown's money then why play hard ball and shelf trade talks until June when there's no guarantee these offers will be there then?

I think it's as simple as Howie is willing and only willing to move AJ Brown if he gets an offer he can't refuse, other teams have been hesitant to meet that asking price, it's hard to operate in free agency without knowing if you're going to be absorbing that cap hit or not, teams have kept calling with interest keeping the talks alive which was keeping Howie kind of in limbo, and talks recently probably got closer to Howie's "offer he can't refuse" but still didn't get there. Then I think Howie eventually was like enough, I can't keep playing games with these teams, I need to move forward with the rest of my offseason without this cap hit hanging over my head, I'm shutting down AJ Brown trade talks for the foreseeable future, and then that's when Russini's report came out that the Eagles are not trading Brown.

I don't see why the Goedert thing is dragging out if Howie isn't trying to trade AJ. I think this is Goedert's agent playing games and hoping for massive leverage if Brown is traded and I bet Goedert wants to stay in Philly.

Assuming Brown is pushing hard to be traded then I think it makes sense to do it now and get draft picks this year. Yes, the cap hit is high but the cap hit for Brown will be over and done with and they get draft capital this year to help. Waiting post June 1 is nicer against the cap of course but it also means no extra picks this year and those are needed as we have a SB window now. Of course if Howie doesn't get a haul then he won't do it.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I'm not sure Brown and Goedert are connected. If they are I think it's because teams reengaged the Eagles yesterday upping their Brown offers so Howie was like "Let me figure this out and push the void date back one more time to sort through these offers"

But I still don't believe they're connected. I think Goedert's agent is playing hardball because he took a pay cut last year and knows the Eagles absorb a dead cap if he leaves so they're probably entrenched in their demands and the Eagles haven't met them yet. We'll see. The Eagles have been known to quibble with a couple million.

If they are not connected then why continue to push Goedert's FA date? And why are they engaging in serious discussions with teams on an AJ trade on the same day as Goederts deadline day? Certainly seems like they are connected. On top of that you have Garafolo's reporting, so all of this does all add up. And someone is feeding Garafolo all this info too he's not just making it up.

7 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

I don't see why the Goedert thing is dragging out if Howie isn't trying to trade AJ. I think this is Goedert's agent playing games and hoping for massive leverage if Brown is traded and I bet Goedert wants to stay in Philly.

Assuming Brown is pushing hard to be traded then I think it makes sense to do it now and get draft picks this year. Yes, the cap hit is high but the cap hit for Brown will be over and done with and they get draft capital this year to help. Waiting post June 1 is nicer against the cap of course but it also means no extra picks this year and those are needed as we have a SB window now. Of course if Howie doesn't get a haul then he won't do it.

We also already have 9 draft picks. A couple more picks helps a lot in completing the team this offseason despite taking on the dead cap from a Brown trade.

It probably helped us a lot to have to let Phillips walk.

1 minute ago, greendestiny27 said:

If they are not connected then why continue to push Goedert's FA date? And why are they engaging in serious discussions with teams on an AJ trade on the same day as Goederts deadline day? Certainly seems like they are connected. On top of that you have Garafolo's reporting, so all of this does all add up. And someone is feeding Garafolo all this info too he's not just making it up.

They are pushing it back because if it hits the void date he becomes a free agent and they take the cap hit and they can't yet agree to terms.

I don't see how they would be connected. The Eagles are going to want to re-sign Goedert regardless because if not it costs them cap space and TE is one of their bigger needs. Whether AJ is traded or not the move that makes the most sense for the Eagles is to keep Goedert so I think it's a coincidence. I think the reports with Goedert pushing back the void date happen to be coinciding with the daily Brown check-in reports from Russini and people are conflating the two, but you gotta realize these things are not playing out in real time. People see updates and think it's like Howie just got off the phone with the Patriots and immediately called Russini and she immediately puts something out there. That's not usually how it goes. It's usually more like teams check in with one another, for all we know the Eagles and Patriots/Rams didn't even talk yesterday and eventually word gets back to an insider, sometimes hours/days after, they double check it with other sources and then they report stuff sometimes hours or days after it happened.

1 hour ago, McMVP said:

That would be a massive FU to Goedert

Pushing it back from Wednesday to Monday without assurances that a deal will get done eventually would also be a massive FU. Each day that goes by early on in free agency the prices for players drop and less opportunities are available.