Howie knows he’s going to trade Brown. It’s just a matter of when. That’s the piece that makes everything make sense.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

They are pushing it back because if it hits the void date he becomes a free agent and they take the cap hit and they can't yet agree to terms.

I don't see how they would be connected. The Eagles are going to want to re-sign Goedert regardless because if not it costs them money and TE is one of their bigger needs. Whether AJ is traded or not the move that makes the most sense for the Eagles is to keep Goedert so I think it's a coincidence. I think the reports with Goedert pushing back the void date happen to be coinciding with the daily Brown check-in reports from Russini and people are conflating the two, but you gotta realize these things are not playing out in real time. People see updates and think it's like Howie just got off the phone with the Patriots and immediately called Russini and she immediately puts something out there. That's not usually how it goes. It's usually more like teams check in with one another, for all we know the Eagles and Patriots/Rams didn't even talk yesterday and eventually word gets back to an insider, sometimes hours/days after, they double check it with other sources and then they report stuff sometimes hours or days after it happened.

Remember that Goedert had to agree to have the void date pushed back which means he pretty much has to be under the belief that a deal will get done otherwise he is costing himself money each day that free agency lingers on. There would literally be zero incentive for Goedert to agree to keep pushing it back unless that were the case. This is almost definitely the last time Goedert will get a multi-year deal in his career so he is going to want to get as much as he can.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Howie knows he’s going to trade Brown. It’s just a matter of when. That’s the piece that makes everything make sense.

I'm wondering if there has been traction on a Brown trade recently and for some reason they don't want to re-sign Goedert until after a deal is finalized. That is the only logical explanation for why the Eagles AND Goedert would continue to push back the void date, especially a second time for a total of five days.

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't see how they would be connected.

They are obviously connected due to the cap issues if Brown is traded and Goedert walks. Goedert's agent knows this. Also, Howie won't be overpaying for Goedert unless he has to because he's traded AJ.

There is no obvious answer as to how this one ends.

5 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I'm wondering if there has been traction on a Brown trade recently and for some reason they don't want to re-sign Goedert until after a deal is finalized. That is the only logical explanation for why the Eagles AND Goedert would continue to push back the void date, especially a second time for a total of five days.

Goedert has an incentive to wait and that is leverage in his negotiation with Howie. If Brown is traded then Howie is basically forced to sign Goedert due to the cap ramifications that would ensue if Howie voided the contract.

I really don't think any of this is as complicated as people are making it.

Howie wants a specific price for Brown. If he doesn't get that price, then he won't trade him. No team has yet met that price.

Goedert and Eagles can't agree on terms yet. They're still negotiating.

In the mean time they're still making moves. I don't think it's the craziest thing in the world that Goedert hasn't been re-signed yet, it happens. The Niners have been negotiating with Trent Williams for weeks and they can't agree to a revised deal yet.

I think the Eagles will continue to talk terms with Goedert, if they can't agree by Monday they'll push it back again, and the Brown stuff is probably tabled til June and then we'll see what happens then. How early the Eagles draft a WR at that point will be pretty telling. Patriots and Rams as well. If Eagles draft a WR very early and the Patriots don't I think the writing will be on the wall he's probably gone. The inverse and Eagles don't draft a WR or don't until late and the Patriots take one in round 1 then the writing will also be on the wall he's probably staying.

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Niners have been negotiating with Trent Williams for weeks and they can't agree to a revised deal yet.

He still has another year left on his contract. Williams can't just decide to enter the market like Goedert can. Not the same thing.

We are in to the big money days for Hurts. He better up his game and make it worth it.

What are the chances you think we see a 100+ receptions , 1500+ yards for Smitty this year ? I’ve been dying for this man to get the league wide respect he deserves and would love to see him as the clear #1 at this stage of his career. Major talent and has been my favorite eagle since becoming one.

4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

He still has another year left on his contract. Williams can't just decide to enter the market like Goedert can. Not the same thing.

I know, but I'm showing that negotiations take time. Especially if both parties disagree on the value of the player. I don't think Goedert's value to the Eagles is very high and honestly, if they had drafted a TE last year I don't think he'd be here at all. I think the cap hit is the main reason the Eagles would want to bring him back rather than loving the player. That creates a bit of a dilemma because I just don't think the Eagles value Goedert much

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I know, but I'm showing that negotiations take time. Especially if both parties disagree on the value of the player. I don't think Goedert's value to the Eagles is very high and honestly, if they had drafted a TE last year I don't think he'd be here at all. I think the cap hit is the main reason the Eagles would want to bring him back rather than loving the player. That creates a bit of a dilemma because I just don't think the Eagles value Goedert much

Yes, but if Howie trades Brown that changes everything. The Eagles would then HAVE to bring Goedert back and they would have to overpay to do it. By not voiding Goedert Howie keeps the option to trade Brown pre-draft open AND by agreeing to the void Goedert keeps the possibility alive that he will be in a great negotiating position.

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

We are in to the big money days for Hurts. He better up his game and make it worth it.

Not really. They are option bonuses, not salaries.

5 minutes ago, Miami said:

Not really. They are option bonuses, not salaries.

Yeah, he worded it incorrectly in the last line. Still, we have hit the big money extension part of his contract.

7 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Yes, but if Howie trades Brown that changes everything. The Eagles would then HAVE to bring Goedert back and they would have to overpay to do it. By not voiding Goedert Howie keeps the option to trade Brown pre-draft open AND by agreeing to the void Goedert keeps the possibility alive that he will be in a great negotiating position.

Yes, it keeps that possibility open, but even if Brown was locked into staying here I still think they'd want to re-sign Goedert because 1) It offers them cap room and 2) It draft proofs themselves. If Goedert goes and they can't get a TE in the draft which is no guarantee because they tried to get one last year and failed, then they're in trouble going into the season with absolute slop at TE... and with an offensive system that highly values TE. I never thought Brown would be traded before June 1st, if at all. Seems pretty clear right now though based on reporting that these talks are tabled until June right now. I think we will get a resolution on Goedert in the next few days and then Howie will be doing other things(Greenard? Cooks? Jennings?)

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah, he worded it incorrectly in the last line. Still, we have hit the big money extension part of his contract.

True, but Howie is one step ahead. If we trade Hurts, the unpaid bonuses flow to the acquiror presumably. Went over this last year with LMGM in the Huff trade. Hurts is definitely on the clock. Howie could extend him but we probably want to see how he does in the new system first.

1 minute ago, Miami said:

True, but Howie is one step ahead. If we trade Hurts, the unpaid bonuses flow to the acquiror presumably. Went over this last year with LMGM in the Huff trade. Hurts is definitely on the clock. Howie could extend him but we probably want to see how he does in the new system first.

Im curious what happens in the draft with QB.

The speculation that the eagles will take a QB in the first 3 rounds was out there.

Now, theres hardly any QBs worth taking there in this class.

Looking at visits and interest, so far theyve only met with one. A completely under the radar prospect, Behren Morton from Texas Tech.

Initially I had assumed this is like an UDFA type of guy. But although there are some limitations, he draws comparisons to Baker Mayfield for his toughness, and gamer mentality. And I wonder if people in NFL circles have this guy in round 3 while the internet draft community hasnt discovered him yet.

12 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Yes, it keeps that possibility open, but even if Brown was locked into staying here I still think they'd want to re-sign Goedert because 1) It offers them cap room and 2) It draft proofs themselves

Depends on the price. Howie doesn't want to have to overpay for Goedert and the future TE is something Howie is going to want to put in play sooner rather than later.

What about from the perspective of Goedert's agent? Why not force Howie and raise the price on Goedert? Worst case Brown isn't traded and Goedert can still choose the open market at any point.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im curious what happens in the draft with QB.

The speculation that the eagles will take a QB in the first 3 rounds was out there.

Now, theres hardly any QBs worth taking there in this class.

Looking at visits and interest, so far theyve only met with one. A completely under the radar prospect, Behren Morton from Texas Tech.

Initially I had assumed this is like an UDFA type of guy. But although there are some limitations, he draws comparisons to Baker Mayfield for his toughness, and gamer mentality. And I wonder if people in NFL circles have this guy in round 3 while the internet draft community hasnt discovered him yet.

We're going to add someone so keep an eye out. Hurts went to a passing camp a while back in CA I think where Howie heard good things about ™ (and then drafted him).

Re-sign Goedert.

Trade AJ for a 2nd and 3rd. I don't think, at this point, any Team is going to part with a 1st round pick for him.

4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Depends on the price. Howie doesn't want to have to overpay for Goedert and the future TE is something Howie is going to want to put in play sooner rather than later.

What about from the perspective of Goedert's agent? Why not force Howie and raise the price on Goedert? Worst case Brown isn't traded and Goedert can still choose the open market at any point.

I think the leverage game is why the negotiations are taking so long. But people have been seeing this Goedert thing drag out and are thinking it's directly linked to AJ Brown and I just don't believe that. Not in the sense that "The Eagles are pushing this back means they're trying to trade AJ Brown before they re-sign Goedert" I think they're generally linked in that each situation affects the Eagles cap dollars so there's always a connection in that regard. But I think the delay is negotiating stalemate and not a strategic one by Howie to try to bide time to trade Brown.

5 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

Re-sign Goedert.

Trade AJ for a 2nd and 3rd. I don't think, at this point, any Team is going to part with a 1st round pick for him.

Which is why you keep him and let Dallas walk. Impress upon his AJ his only shot at a new bug deal anywhere is to go play well

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

Which is why you keep him and let Dallas walk. Impress upon his AJ his only shot at a new bug deal anywhere is to go play well

I'd like that but I guess it all depends on whether the team thinks Brown is mature enough to be able to handle it. So far he hasn't shown that level of maturity. Hopefully the team gets it right.

3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

I'd like that but I guess it all depends on whether the team thinks Brown is mature enough to be able to handle it. So far he hasn't shown that level of maturity. Hopefully the team gets it right.

Thats where his team mates should be talking to him. Make the business decision. Is bis relationship with Hurts gone so quick?

Shut up and go dominate. Thats whats he loves, right?