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Honestly, at this point if I'm Howie I ask for two 1sts. There's a reason teams are trading for WRs, they know this WR class at the top isn't great. If they want a blue chipper, the best way is trade. Trading Brown objectively makes the Eagles a noticeably worse team next season.

Demand two 1sts if that's the price for Waddle.

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1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Honestly, at this point if I'm Howie I ask for two 1sts. There's a reason teams are trading for WRs, they know this WR class at the top isn't great. If they want a blue chipper, the best way is trade. Trading Brown objectively makes the Eagles a noticeably worse team next season.

Demand two 1sts if that's the price for Waddle.

Yup

Miami is in full rebuild. We certainly are not. Yet…

Any shot Sadiq could be prominently used as an X receiver?

10 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

What are the mistakes that are being made?

That's up to each fan to decide on a forum where the point is to talk about the offseason not sit in the corner and be quiet.

I just don't see how AJ Brown is traded at this point. There are no teams Howie can use against each other to create leverage and offers after the draft won't be nearly as strong. And the prices are through the roof so Howie isn't gonna lower his asking price.

Why would the Patriots or Rams now decide to meet the Eagles super high price? And they certainly won't meet it in June when these teams have already drafted WRs and would then have to offer 2027 picks which will be a much better draft and they don't have clarity on how high those picks will be yet, which is why major trades almost never happen after the draft.

48 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Another Safety (AJ Haulcy)

I think he's a bigger faster stronger version of Reed that has a ton of experience playing against SEC competition rather than ConUSA, but he'll likely have similar problems if matched against WRs or expected to play as the deep defender. Teams that play a lot of C3 will love him, as you can drop him into that intermediate zone and he's mostly all strengths there with few weaknesses. I assume he won't make it to our 2nd round pick.

Jaylen Waddle to Broncos for a 1st

Miami might have us beat in dead cap. They just did it in a stupid way. About $170M in dead money the next two years

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Miami might have us beat in dead cap. They just did it in a stupid way. About $170M in dead money the next two years

By stupid you mean drafting, paying then cutting Tua? lol

And it's more than that, isnt it?

Tua - 99 Million

Chubb - 11 million

Tyreek Hill - 28 million

Jalen Ramsey - 21 million

Minkah Fitzpatrick - 13 million

Terron Armstead - 10.7 million

Waddle - 55 million? I think I'm reading the option bonuses wrong.

Plus smaller hits (5 million and lower):

James Daniels - $4,800,000

Zach Wilson - $3,800,000

Alec Ingold - $1,995,000

Jonnu Smith - $1,650,000

Nick Westbrook-Ikhine - $1,600,000

Matt Judon - $1,360,000

Jason Sanders - $663,000

Cam Smith - $527,897

Mohamed Kamara - $160,436

24 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Like you said Howie isn't perfect and the point of this forum is to talk about the team and the moves that are being made. Fans don't have to sit down and be quiet.That isn't showing gratitude that's indentured servitude. You may have signed up for that but people need to stop telling others they can't speak their mind when they see mistskes being made.

So just so I'm clear, "people need to stop telling others they can't speak their mind" but you seem to be critical of me doing it? Man there seems to be a lot of stupid in here today. And you went with indentured servitude? That's a bold metaphor.

1 hour ago, garingovt2000 said:

Another Safety

Hate his tackling technique. Needs to wrap.

Waddle's contract is really attractive for Denver - due $17.24mm this year and $24mm next year, no guarantees after that (only $15.2mm of 2027 guaranteed now with the rest becoming guaranteed 5th day of 2027 league year). His 2026 cap number to Denver will be only $4.9mm.

It's Russini, so may be total BS. Or Baldinger was full of it. Real competition for biggest moron here.

Just now, vikas83 said:

It's Russini, so may be total BS. Or Baldinger was full of it. Real competition for biggest moron here.

Ben Allbright who covers the Broncos and has good Broncos sources said the Broncos had no interest in AJ Brown. So I believe Baldy was making crap up.

4 minutes ago, NYEagle said:

So just so I'm clear, "people need to stop telling others they can't speak their mind" but you seem to be critical of me doing it? Man there seems to be a lot of stupid in here today. And you went with indentured servitude? That's a bold metaphor.

You decided to make a post telling people they need to shut up and sit in the corner and I correctly said the point of this forum is to discuss the moves as fans not be indentured servants to Howie.

Don't be the a-hole driving in the left lane telling people how fast to drive. Move over it's not your job.

Draft is going to be crazy with trades this year

15 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I just don't see how AJ Brown is traded at this point. There are no teams Howie can use against each other to create leverage and offers after the draft won't be nearly as strong. And the prices are through the roof so Howie isn't gonna lower his asking price.

Why would the Patriots or Rams now decide to meet the Eagles super high price? And they certainly won't meet it in June when these teams have already drafted WRs and would then have to offer 2027 picks which will be a much better draft and they don't have clarity on how high those picks will be yet, which is why major trades almost never happen after the draft.

The asking price before June 1 and after June 1 are two different things. Howie's current asking price compensates him for absorbing $46M+ in dead money for 2026. After June 1 the dead cap diminishes, and the negotiated trade would be for a lesser return -- likely 2027 2nd and 3rd round picks and a young roster player.

Only using the Patriots as an example -- which WR in this WR draft (that you don't like) will the Pats draft at #31 overall, and how many years will it take that player to have the impact AJ Brown would have in their offense? The Patriots have the mistaken belief they are a WR1 away from a Super Bowl. Romeo Doubs isn't a WR1 for a championship-caliber team, and both the Eagles and Pats know it.

31 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Any shot Sadiq could be prominently used as an X receiver?

Nah. A classic Y.

40 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

One fewer team for AJ Brown and if that's the price for Waddle, Howie is right in holding firm on his demands.

I thought maybe we could just swap WRs on June.

12 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Waddle's contract is really attractive for Denver - due $17.24mm this year and $24mm next year, no guarantees after that (only $15.2mm of 2027 guaranteed now with the rest becoming guaranteed 5th day of 2027 league year). His 2026 cap number to Denver will be only $4.9mm.

I mentioned him if the eagles did trade AJ mainly cause it’s a nice contract for the team trading for him. However it’s a steep price of a 1st and 3rd when I’m not sure he’s a true no. 1 and he’s also had durability concerns

25 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

That's up to each fan to decide on a forum where the point is to talk about the offseason not sit in the corner and be quiet.

But how are they mistakes when we haven't seen how they played out yet? It's just your opinion not mistakes.

24 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

That's up to each fan to decide on a forum where the point is to talk about the offseason not sit in the corner and be quiet.

Straw man argument. No one says be quiet. Pointing out we're all on a discussion forum to discuss the team is silly.

But if you're going to continually be overly negative and whine about things Howie isn't doing that he literally cannot do, that's stupid and you have a mental or emotional problem. There is no money to sign big time free agents, and everyone knows - Howie and Lurie publicly have said this in interviews for two years - that they cannot retain everyone and people will leave, because they have to have money to pay the big stud players they drafted who are great.

Fans are crying because they're not spending money on mid free agents now, and keep forgetting the whole point is keeping their star players.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The asking price before June 1 and after June 1 are two different things. Howie's current asking price compensates him for absorbing $46M+ in dead money for 2026. After June 1 the dead cap diminishes, and the negotiated trade would be for a lesser return -- likely 2027 2nd and 3rd round picks and a young roster player.

Only using the Patriots as an example -- which WR in this WR draft (that you don't like) will the Pats draft at #31 overall, and how many years will it take that player to have the impact AJ Brown would have in their offense? The Patriots have the mistaken belief they are a WR1 away from a Super Bowl. Romeo Doubs isn't a WR1 for a championship-caliber team, and both the Eagles and Pats know it.

I don't think there's any chance Howie trades him for less than a 2027 1st. Unless he makes clear he will hold in at camp.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

The asking price before June 1 and after June 1 are two different things. Howie's current asking price compensates him for absorbing $46M+ in dead money for 2026. After June 1 the dead cap diminishes, and the negotiated trade would be for a lesser return -- likely 2027 2nd and 3rd round picks and a young roster player.

Only using the Patriots as an example -- which WR in this WR draft (that you don't like) will the Pats draft at #31 overall, and how many years will it take that player to have the impact AJ Brown would have in their offense? The Patriots have the mistaken belief they are a WR1 away from a Super Bowl. Romeo Doubs isn't a WR1 for a championship-caliber team, and both the Eagles and Pats know it.

Howie isn't going to accept a 2nd and 3rd for AJ Brown. For one, it would be a bad look on his part holding firm and then settling for much less when other WRs got dealt for more. Also, the asking price is more than just mitigating the cap hit, it's the value for the player compared to what other WRs are being dealt for and his value to the Eagles making it worthwhile. Again, this isn't a situation where they're desperate to move him. This is a "We'll move him if you blow us away with an offer" situation.

I think if there is a chance he gets traded it's on draft night. If there are no WRs available that the Patriots like and they finally cave to Howie's demands(Likely 2027 1st and 2026 or 2027 2nd). And if they don't meet it, I think AJ will be on the Eagles in week 1.

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