53 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Who are the available kickers you would want to replace Jake Elliott with? Before the recent rework, it would be $5M in dead cap with a post June 1st cut, and then you still have to go out and sign a kicker.

I wouldn't mind them drafting one but I think people said most of the good ones went back. Smack is a great name for a kicker, though.

42 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

is everyone ready for Ohio State to go down in round 1 already? 9 seed beating 8 seed isnt a huge upset, but I didnt have it.

I'm always ready for Ohio State to go down.

22 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I just see trading (or not trading) AJ as a massive philosophical and functional tipping point for this team. We don't know exactly what this new offense will entail, but it seems the consensus expectation is that there will be sweeping changes in scheme, play-calling, philosophy, and the demands on the players.

Coming from not exactly Jalen Hurts' biggest fan, I assumed we'd want to give him every chance to succeed and prove himself in this new offense. If you subtract AJ Brown from this offense...youve got a brittle OL that was trouble all year in 2025 and is only one year older. You've got Barkley wearing out the last of the tread on his tires. You've got Goedert who will be one year older, more injury prone. You've got Devonta Smith who is an very good WR, but not really a WR1 or game breaker as a pro. Hollywood Brown, who I do like, is really more of a shifty WR3. That's not a good supporting cast, at all, for Jalen Hurts in a brand new offense. It won't be a pretty year on that side of the ball and it'll be unfair to the evaluations of both Hurts and the viability of the new scheme. Then we'll just pivot from "was it Hurts or Patullo/scheme" to "was it Hurts or the poor talent we surrounded him with"?

No Hurtscuses.

DeVonta Smith is still a WR1. Hollywood Brown is a fine speed slot with inside outside versatility. Theyll likely be drafting one pretty early in a great WR draft with many starter quality prospects. And Cooper seems like a promising 2nd year player. The WR corps will be fine.

Barkley still has plenty of speed and fits the outsize zone scheme well.

TE is as good as last year, and will likely be improved with a TE picked in the first 3 rounds.

He has a ton of supporting cast.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

No Hurtscuses.

DeVonta Smith is still a WR1. Hollywood Brown is a fine speed slot with inside outside versatility. Theyll likely be drafting one pretty early in a great WR draft with many starter quality prospects. And Cooper seems like a promising 2nd year player. The WR corps will be fine.

Barkley still has plenty of speed and fits the outsize zone scheme well.

TE is as good as last year, and will likely be improved with a TE picked in the first 3 rounds.

He has a ton of supporting cast.

I think he always has had an incredible supporting cast his entire career. And I think, this year, he won't.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I think he always has had an incredible supporting cast his entire career. And I think, this year, he won't.

If AJ isn't here he certainly won't be, especially if the OL doesn't drastically improve and I think odds are it will aren't great. No Stout and guys with chronic injury issues. People better be ready for at least the possibility that next season is a disaster, telling you. Not saying it will be, but for the first time in years I think this team could win like 7 games next season where the last several years I didn't think barring being ravaged by injuries it was realistic they'd win under 10.

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I was posting about the Syracuse TE yesterday that blew up his pro day. He was a QB to TE convert.

Now, the eagles have had Jackson as a QB>TE convert, and have signed Stone Smart. Seems like they like these guys.

Syracuse guy is one to keep an eye on then. Great size, 4.4 speed. See if you can train him up to block.

Saw when reviewing the TE free agents that Jackson was a RFA (although I don’t think tendered rendering him a UFA). That long and still doesn’t have three accrued seasons.

23 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I think he always has had an incredible supporting cast his entire career. And I think, this year, he won't.

It can go from incredible to very good. Still, he better perform.

12 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Saw when reviewing the TE free agents that Jackson was a RFA (although I don’t think tendered rendering him a UFA). That long and still doesn’t have three accrued seasons.

He was always injured and we just kept bringing him back. Glad they finally gave up.

22 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I think he always has had an incredible supporting cast his entire career. And I think, this year, he won't.

it won't matter if he has one or not, the people that are overly critical of him will never give him his props.

Notice how there weren't a lot of Barkley haters when he rushed for 2k yds in 2024. People had no problem just giving him his praise even though he had never come close to having that type of success with NY. He then follows it up with a mediocre 2025 season and all of sudden Hurts now doesn't have an incredible supporting cast. So, tell me, was it all Barkley's doing for that 2024 success he had, or was he also surrounded by an incredible supporting cast?

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He had a $5M option bonus this year which wasn’t but is now fully guaranteed. They would add $5M in dead cap to what you said if the plan was for competition

Wouldn't the option bonus be guaranteed once they exercised the option? I would think that would be before the season.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

If Carter is healthy our edges will be more effective this year. If hes not, we really better have improved edge rushers. Namely, Nolan Smith need to be upgraded.

Id like to have an upgrade either way. With Carter healthy and improvement at edge it just wouldn't be fair for other teams. That is ideal.

I would be fine with Smith if he the team could count on him to stay healthy. He led the team in pressure rate after he got healthy. I think he's got limited pass rush moves but he's not bad. I would like them to add someone in the draft but I don't think a rookie is going to make an instant impact in this scheme.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

I wouldn't mind them drafting one but I think people said most of the good ones went back. Smack is a great name for a kicker, though.

Only 3 kickers drafted in the last decade have managed to stay on their original team for more than 2 years. None of them are above 85% for their careers, which is average. Even bringing in a UDFA or another cut kicker isn't something I want to bank on going into training camp.

I think the Eagles did the most logical thing at this point, just have to wait and see how it plays out. The team has much better intel maybe Elliott was playing with an injury, maybe it was something with the long snapper, who knows. Much less risk sticking with Elliott than gambling with a rookie to come in and immediately be reliable.

In the long run, I think we see a very different team next offseason. This year is all about prepping for the change. Elliott's reworked contract probably helps us more in the future than it does now, but there's not a whole lot of good options out there.

Just now, wussbasket said:

Only 3 kickers drafted in the last decade have managed to stay on their original team for more than 2 years. None of them are above 85% for their careers, which is average. Even bringing in a UDFA or another cut kicker isn't something I want to bank on going into training camp.

I think the Eagles did the most logical thing at this point, just have to wait and see how it plays out. The team has much better intel maybe Elliott was playing with an injury, maybe it was something with the long snapper, who knows. Much less risk sticking with Elliott than gambling with a rookie to come in and immediately be reliable.

In the long run, I think we see a very different team next offseason. This year is all about prepping for the change. Elliott's reworked contract probably helps us more in the future than it does now, but there's not a whole lot of good options out there.

Interesting info. Thanks

6 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Carson and Kyler feels like a pairing in a buddy cop movie with the not so hot shot rookie McCarthy

They're not going to just pair them together. They are going to merge them into a single QB like Jerricky

AJ already in physical decline as he nears 30.

2 hours ago, beto_eagles said:

He hasn't been good, but calling him the worst kicker in the NFL is a bit too much.

Kickers are hard to judge, they can be perfect one season, and completely fall off the next one. That's why you need a bigger sample than just one season IMHO. Most teams change kickers all the time, but Jake has provided stability for 9 years. Considering he's arguably the best in Eagles history, I think he deserves at least one more season to prove he can get back in form.

Who is a worse kicker? And this isn't a sample size of one season. This is a sample size of two consecutive seasons now.

2024: 28th overall in field goal percentage at 77.8%. Dead last for a kicker who played 17 games.

2025: 33rd overall in field goal percentage at 74.1% and the two guys below him played in only 12 & 8 games. For a kicker who played an entire season without losing his job he ranked dead last.

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Just scroll up.

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4 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

Guys,

I'm tired of reading the same post, over and over and over again.

Just scroll up.

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28 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Only 3 kickers drafted in the last decade have managed to stay on their original team for more than 2 years. None of them are above 85% for their careers, which is average. Even bringing in a UDFA or another cut kicker isn't something I want to bank on going into training camp.

I think the Eagles did the most logical thing at this point, just have to wait and see how it plays out. The team has much better intel maybe Elliott was playing with an injury, maybe it was something with the long snapper, who knows. Much less risk sticking with Elliott than gambling with a rookie to come in and immediately be reliable.

In the long run, I think we see a very different team next offseason. This year is all about prepping for the change. Elliott's reworked contract probably helps us more in the future than it does now, but there's not a whole lot of good options out there.

There's no risk in letting Elliott go because he stinks! 3 out of last 6 years are bad. Misses extra points, misses regularly from 50 yards and above. And Sirianni doesn't even consider anything in the 60's for him. Why would you wanna play with this handicap for a team that now struggles to score points. Did research on this for potential replacement, when I stated in Week 15 he should be sidelined before he would cost you a playoff game.

2 names that should minimally be good competetion in training camp and solid vets. Matt Gay and Matthew Wright. Have an open competition and make him earn it in preseason. He should be guaranteed absolutely nothing. $5M...pffft....definitely not.

35 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I think he always has had an incredible supporting cast his entire career. And I think, this year, he won't.

I am optimistic about Hurts in this system. It's not a complex read system. They are running play action off of outside zone with bootleg roll outs. It's not a 5 read west coast offense. He won't really have to decipher coverage. The play action and motion should help get receivers open.

10 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

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well it's sore subject for @Godfather

10 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

And I’m tired of hearing @Godfather complain about @hputenis not using enough lube but such is life. Get tf over it

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