1 hour ago, DaBirds said:

I agree with most of your thoughts. I wonder why Manning hated motion though. You’d think it makes it so much easier to see what the defense is doing. At the very least if it man/zone

Just a guess but I’d think he was kind of set in his ways as a QB and motion became more predominant in the tail end of his career. He was in that era of QB play and offense in general was one way but eventually evolved once the rules changed.

We should probably not forget the Texas OT that the eagles got last year was supposed to be a 1st round talent if he had stayed another year. Im not sure why when the eagles feel they have a 1st round talent project OT that theyd be wanting to draft another the very next year. I would think theyll give Williams a chance.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

We'll never know just how much of this stuff in these stories are true, but what I find most disconcerting about the reports if they are is the very basic stuff that Hurts doesn't feel comfortable doing, objects to doing, or petitions not to do to the coaches.

And it's not even stuff that doesn't match his skill set. It's not like he's going "I don't like to throw out routes because I don't think I have quite the arm strength to get it there before the defender can close.

It's stuff like "He doesn't like under center because he doesn't like turning his back to the defense." Umm... what? What is this, pop warner? That's basic football. Suck it the hell up man and start getting comfortable with it, what the hell. That's like an Italian chef telling the restaurant that hires them that they aren't comfortable making pasta.

I've never heard of something so ridiculous in my life about apparently not being comfortable doing the most basic things. Especially for someone who is apparently as much of a student of the game as people claim he is. How are you still not comfortable with these things by now? You're a coach's son, you played football your entire life. It's so bizarre.

I tend to think the coaching staff is at part to blame. If the coaching points are avoid turnovers at all costs, I can see why he’s not comfortable with turning his back to the defense among other things. Turnovers seem to be something Sirianni is hyper focused over that it could be a detriment to the overall offense.

Peyton didn't like motion but didn't Brady? Or maybe he didn't care for it and my memory is incorrect but I don't feel like looking it up lol

17 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

We should probably not forget the Texas OT that the eagles got last year was supposed to be a 1st round talent if he had stayed another year. Im not sure why when the eagles feel they have a 1st round talent project OT that theyd be wanting to draft another the very next year. I would think theyll give Williams a chance.

I take that 1st round talent endorsement with a grain of salt - he looks comparable to Fred and that should be an interesting competition this summer.

I read the article and kept waiting for some big revelation but instead it was like reading a summary of the Blog over the 2025 season.

I found it totally uninteresting. Like who on a national level would find this trivial he said, she said compelling? And who inside the Eagles fan base hasn't heard this ad nauseum for months on end?

36 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I tend to think the coaching staff is at part to blame. If the coaching points are avoid turnovers at all costs, I can see why he’s not comfortable with turning his back to the defense among other things. Turnovers seem to be something Sirianni is hyper focused over that it could be a detriment to the overall offense.

It absolutely was and I'm hoping he steps back from it. Stop being scared of turnovers. Trust the defense to get a stop or get the ball back and let your QB make the throws

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

We should probably not forget the Texas OT that the eagles got last year was supposed to be a 1st round talent if he had stayed another year. Im not sure why when the eagles feel they have a 1st round talent project OT that theyd be wanting to draft another the very next year. I would think theyll give Williams a chance.

Right many said they believed if he stayed he would have been a 1st rounder so with a year under Stout he should be just as good as the other top OT's in this draft right?

Cameron Williams

Texas

3/25

T

6056

317

34.50

11.38

1 minute ago, garingovt2000 said:

Right many said they believed if he stayed he would have been a 1st rounder so with a year under Stout he should be just as good as the other top OT's in this draft right?

Cameron Williams

Texas

3/25

T

6056

317

34.50

11.38

In theory yes. If the eagles believed in that potential enough to draft him, I dont think they will be very zealous about drafting yet another developmental OT in round 1 the very next year.

This is Steve Smith's WR sleeper of the draft. The speed he shows on the punt return, and then the last play of the video is like college Maclin stuff. Angle erasing speed. This guys runs a 4.37. You dont always see guys with the 4.3 speeds showing it on the field. Benson looks like he is capable of playing even faster than his time.

In theory yes. If the eagles believed in that potential enough to draft him, I dont think they will be very zealous about drafting yet another developmental OT in round 1 the very next year.

I did also see a few scouting reports saying he might be best suited for Guard

6 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Peyton didn't like motion but didn't Brady? Or maybe he didn't care for it and my memory is incorrect but I don't feel like looking it up lol

Neither guy needed it, motion is to help the QB see how the defense is aligned. Those two processed so quickly post snap they didn't need motion

10 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

We should probably not forget the Texas OT that the eagles got last year was supposed to be a 1st round talent if he had stayed another year. Im not sure why when the eagles feel they have a 1st round talent project OT that theyd be wanting to draft another the very next year. I would think theyll give Williams a chance.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

10 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

In theory yes. If the eagles believed in that potential enough to draft him, I dont think they will be very zealous about drafting yet another developmental OT in round 1 the very next year.

10 hours ago, garingovt2000 said:

Right many said they believed if he stayed he would have been a 1st rounder so with a year under Stout he should be just as good as the other top OT's in this draft right?

Cameron Williams

Texas

3/25

T

6056

317

34.50

11.38

11 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

We should probably not forget the Texas OT that the eagles got last year was supposed to be a 1st round talent if he had stayed another year. Im not sure why when the eagles feel they have a 1st round talent project OT that theyd be wanting to draft another the very next year. I would think theyll give Williams a chance.

I kind of feel like Cameron Williams was a first round talent in the same way Jack Ikewuonu was if he didn't tear his ACL and steal an X-box. An offensive tackle simply isn't slipping to round 6 if they are that talented. Mailata may have, but that's because he wasn't even a football player. Williams played football his whole life, didn't do anything special at the combine, definitively struggles with speed in pass protection. There's potential there, so I'm not advocating to write him off at all. But he's someone who needs to go out and take a job on the OL...not someone who you pencil in for one or anticipate getting something from. That's what Mailata had to do too.

11 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

I read the article and kept waiting for some big revelation but instead it was like reading a summary of the Blog over the 2025 season.

I found it totally uninteresting. Like who on a national level would find this trivial he said, she said compelling? And who inside the Eagles fan base hasn't heard this ad nauseum for months on end?

VMS. The comment about Hurts having on and off years, was discussed here. Some of us pinged that a year or two back; why I suspect Hurts will have a good upcoming season. He's got that chip on his shoulder again.

Funnily enough, that article did highlight the Eagles "influencers" who glaze Hurts and those who could at least process it and say, yep, harsh but fair, unfair, etc etc.

IIRC, Mckee was under pretty consistent duress with that developmental OL protecting in week 18. Again, not writing them off, as we'd expect that from a bunch of developmental guys thrown together...but I don't think any of them are at the point where it would be wise to expect more than a backup role from them.

13 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

The uneducated fanbase that hates Hurts calling for him to be traded not realizing he has a no trade clause, will be extended next offseason and be the QB for another 5 years at least.

I think there are 2 things to consider. First, I am sure you would agree that there's a reasonable chance that the offense may not do well next season. Second, Hurts will get blamed for part of the dysfunction. If those 2 things are true, Hurts may want to get traded rather than stay in Philly. This isn't a personal attack on Hurts. It's just the reality of the game. Whether we think the article is from biased sources or not, there are people within the organization that blame Hurts for the problems in the offense last season. My guess is that Sirianni is one of those people and a source for the article. There are really 2 possibilities for the offense next season: the passing offense is the same or worse or the passing offense is better. If Hurts starts most of the season and the offense looks better, I think it's highly likely Hurts gets another extension. If the offense looks the same or worse, even if the team wins the Super Bowl, I think it's likely Hurts and the Eagles part ways before 2028.

I optimistic about Hurts in this offense because there are parts that play to his strengths. I don't want them to trade AJ because the team will have better talent at receiver with him on the roster. I can see where Devonta could make up a big part of the production with more targets. If he produces like JSN or Nakua in this offense, then AJ's production won't be missed. Devonta is as good as JSN. Hurts is better than Darnold. That being said, it's unrealistic to say there's no chance of failure.

17 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I kind of feel like Cameron Williams was a first round talent in the same way Jack Ikewuonu was if he didn't tear his ACL and steal an X-box. An offensive tackle simply isn't slipping to round 6 if they are that talented. Mailata may have, but that's because he wasn't even a football player. Williams played football his whole life, didn't do anything special at the combine, definitively struggles with speed in pass protection. There's potential there, so I'm not advocating to write him off at all. But he's someone who needs to go out and take a job on the OL...not someone who you pencil in for one or anticipate getting something from. That's what Mailata had to do too.

Struggles with speed, just like Monroe Freeling who is maybe going top 10 in this draft class.

What we already have, and what's available arent all that different.

Bad idea to draft OL early in this one.

Take another guy with potential in mid rounds.

I wish they had some insight into the dialogue that occurred when they went for it on 4th down in the Green Bay game because I thought that was 10x more egregious than calling Four Verts in the playoff game.

33 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I kind of feel like Cameron Williams was a first round talent in the same way Jack Ikewuonu was if he didn't tear his ACL and steal an X-box. An offensive tackle simply isn't slipping to round 6 if they are that talented. Mailata may have, but that's because he wasn't even a football player. Williams played football his whole life, didn't do anything special at the combine, definitively struggles with speed in pass protection. There's potential there, so I'm not advocating to write him off at all. But he's someone who needs to go out and take a job on the OL...not someone who you pencil in for one or anticipate getting something from. That's what Mailata had to do too.

Do you think maybe he didn't do anything special at the Combine or his pro day was maybe because he didn't participate in either because of a knee injury he sustained against Clemson in the College Football playoffs?

He showed up at almost 6 foot 6 317 pounds (supposedly looked solid), had massive arm length 34.5 inches and big hands 11.38 so he definitely did great in the only thing he did do

12 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Do you think maybe he didn't do anything special at the Combine or his pro day was maybe because he didn't participate in either because of a knee injury he sustained against Clemson in the College Football playoffs?

He showed up at almost 6 foot 6 317 pounds (supposedly looked solid), had massive arm length 34.5 inches and big hands 11.38 so he definitely did great in the only thing he did do

that seems very possible!

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

that seems very possible!

big if true

22 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I wish they had some insight into the dialogue that occurred when they went for it on 4th down in the Green Bay game because I thought that was 10x more egregious than calling Four Verts in the playoff game.

The problem wasn't just the 4 verts call. The problem was that they called the same play twice in a row.

12 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I tend to think the coaching staff is at part to blame. If the coaching points are avoid turnovers at all costs, I can see why he’s not comfortable with turning his back to the defense among other things. Turnovers seem to be something Sirianni is hyper focused over that it could be a detriment to the overall offense.

I am sure this plays a role in the calls as well.

Williams had maturity concerns. Despite being raw he probably would have been picked 2-3 rounds earlier otherwise. Stoutland never seemed all that enthused about him.

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https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/simulator

Is it the most user friendly or accurate? Absolutely not. However it does let you trade players in addition to picks and the result is you get some absolutely unhinged offers.