43 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I don’t understand the purpose of this chart. Can someone explain it? I get what it’s saying, but what is that suppose to tell us? Joe Burrow was mediocre to awful his entire collegiate career until his final season where he was phenomenal. So is it a good thing Carnell’s best season is way higher than his college average?

lts just stats. You use them as you wish.

13 hours ago, devpool said:

Interesting conversation so i'm going to insert myself

There's a delicate balance between BPA and positions of need. Of course they shouldn't select the #1 rated LB if it's the true BPA, but they also shouldn't select the #15 OT just because it's a position of need.

It's definitely harder in a draft that reportedly isnt as strong and the drop off from the top to middle tier prospects is large. I would lean more towards BPA than need, thinking of it as eventually every position will be a position of need at some point it's just doing triage on which positions you think will drop off earliest and of those, which are premium positions

BPA is the right approach, while the needs can't be ignored either. The premier positions are OT, Edge, WR and CB. For the Eagles in this draft, OT and Edge are the positions of needs and where they should use the top picks.

Typically, teams don't draft S and TE early except when superior talents are there. In the FA, Howie already added the CB2 and several depth players. Not a big improvement of the roster. They can focus on the draft to add talents at low cost.

I'm guessing these are the most likely guys if they stay put at 23 or move down:

OT - Kadyn Proctor, Blake Miller, Max Iheanachor

Edge - Keldric Faulk, TJ Parker, Cashius Howell

S - Emmanuel Mcneil-Warren

WR - Omar Cooper Jr., Denzel Boston

TE - Kenyon Sadiq

I need to start doing some legit research over the next couple of weeks to narrow it down to about three guys who I would target

17 hours ago, NOTW said:

You don't even know how to quote or use the tag feature on here. 😭

I know how! I'm just lazy. Really really lazy.

@NOTW

20 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I'm guessing these are the most likely guys if they stay put at 23 or move down:

OT - Kadyn Proctor, Blake Miller, Max Iheanachor

Edge - Keldric Faulk, TJ Parker, Cashius Howell

S - Emmanuel Mcneil-Warren

WR - Omar Cooper Jr., Denzel Boston

TE - Kenyon Sadiq

I need to start doing some legit research over the next couple of weeks to narrow it down to about three guys who I would target

Are we likely to get one of those guys?? A lot of names there that you threw out.

1 minute ago, LacesOut said:

Are we likely to get one of those guys?? A lot of names there that you threw out.

Based on looking at a ton of mock drafts, doing a ton of mock drafts, etc I would say yes the odds are pretty good if they stay at 23 or move down it will be one of those guys. If I had to guess right now I would say it's going to be Miller or Iheanachor with the question do they go for the safer option or the home run swing.

I'd be very happy with Proctor or Iheanachor. Before this offseason, I wanted Proctor, as I felt he was a better fit for our run-centric offense. Given the new direction, I'd vote Iheanachor. But either one projects as a nice rookie project who steps in to start by midseason. No offense to Lane, but a rookie 1st round pick is going to hear their name called at RT.

I don't like Sadiq. Those rocked up 6'3" TE's with incredible athleticism who don't block well are tricky to work into an offense. Teams treat them like WRs and...no matter how well their speed tests at the combine...they aren't going to separate against a DB as well as a WR can. And he doesn't block well enough to make you pay for it when they match up their defense like he's a WR.

I'd be more interested if they had him cut a little mass to gain some quickness and just made him a WR. And that makes him more of a project and not worth the high pick anyway.

The TE's that actually blow up the NFL as receivers and offensive weapons are usually at least serviceable blockers. The threat of blocking usually makes it more of a challenge to properly match up and cover them. IMO, it makes them more of a receiving threat.

5 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Happy Easter to everyone except @hputenis !! Remember to keep hiding eggs up your ass to a minimum

Happy Easter buddy. Saved a seat for you!

@EaglePhan1986 Your seat’s reserved for my face!

12 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don't like Sadiq. Those rocked up 6'3" TE's with incredible athleticism who don't block well are tricky to work into an offense. Teams treat them like WRs and...no matter how well their speed tests at the combine...they aren't going to separate against a DB as well as a WR can. And he doesn't block well enough to make you pay for it when they match up their defense like he's a WR.

I'd be more interested if they had him cut a little mass to gain some quickness and just made him a WR. And that makes him more of a project and not worth the high pick anyway.

The TE's that actually blow up the NFL as receivers and offensive weapons are usually at least serviceable blockers. The threat of blocking usually makes it more of a challenge to properly match up and cover them. IMO, it makes them more of a receiving threat.

Eagle45 after every post and rightfully so.

20 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don't like Sadiq. Those rocked up 6'3" TE's with incredible athleticism who don't block well are tricky to work into an offense. Teams treat them like WRs and...no matter how well their speed tests at the combine...they aren't going to separate against a DB as well as a WR can. And he doesn't block well enough to make you pay for it when they match up their defense like he's a WR.

I'd be more interested if they had him cut a little mass to gain some quickness and just made him a WR. And that makes him more of a project and not worth the high pick anyway.

The TE's that actually blow up the NFL as receivers and offensive weapons are usually at least serviceable blockers. The threat of blocking usually makes it more of a challenge to properly match up and cover them. IMO, it makes them more of a receiving threat.

I'm guessing you hate Stowers then

33 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don't like Sadiq. Those rocked up 6'3" TE's with incredible athleticism who don't block well are tricky to work into an offense. Teams treat them like WRs and...no matter how well their speed tests at the combine...they aren't going to separate against a DB as well as a WR can. And he doesn't block well enough to make you pay for it when they match up their defense like he's a WR.

I'd be more interested if they had him cut a little mass to gain some quickness and just made him a WR. And that makes him more of a project and not worth the high pick anyway.

The TE's that actually blow up the NFL as receivers and offensive weapons are usually at least serviceable blockers. The threat of blocking usually makes it more of a challenge to properly match up and cover them. IMO, it makes them more of a receiving threat.

Sadiq is a good blocker, actually, despite being undersized. Even as an in-line blocker which is usually the problem with the smaller, athletic TEs.

The bigger issue I have taking him in the first round is actually his size and route running. Does his size negate his blocking ability as he would get engulfed and overpowered by larger NFL players compared to college? And if I’m taking a TE so high, am I really willing to risk it on a guy who runs sloppy routes?

There’s too much projection for my liking and a potential situation where you have this fast, athletic guy who has trouble getting open and is only useful as a blocker as the move TE.

49 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I took some blowback during the Super Bowl this year for saying it, but I still say they were both very similar. Both benefited greatly from an excellent run game and defense. Hurts was more efficient, for sure, but it was ground game and defense that carried both QBs. The Chiefs completely selling out to stop Barkley in the Super Bowl made Hurts’ job a lot easier. I said it the moment it happened — The Dagger was there all game long, and it wasn’t nearly the most impactful play of the game, yet they gave Hurts Super Bowl MVP incorrectly.

The last two Super Bowls have definitely removed the shine from the "need to have elite QB play” theory.

20 hours ago, ManuManu said:

He has Howie late round pick and IR stash written all over it.

35 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

He has Howie late round pick and IR stash written all over it.

As he should! Perfect to develop to take over for Ojomo.

4 minutes ago, TEW said:

As he should! Perfect to develop to take over for Ojomo.

With the limited offseason activities and restrictions around IRed players practicing, what options do these guys coming out left field have to develop skills. Are there camps that they attend at their own expense, personal coaching?

16 hours ago, just relax said:

You think? Great anchor for sure but on the move, a much different story. Neither quick nor fast. I think Baldy talked himself into loving this guy.

How would you rank these guys as guard prospects — Ioane, Proctor, Fano, Bisontis, Pregnon, Rutledge, and Dunker?

Proctor I’m thinking isn’t cut out for OT but would make a spectacular guard, just maybe not in our new system. Fano has the movement skills we probably want. Can he bulk up a bit and keep his athleticism? Could be interesting if he doesn’t cut it at tackle.

5 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

With the limited offseason activities and restrictions around IRed players practicing, what options do these guys coming out left field have to develop skills. Are there camps that they attend at their own expense, personal coaching?

Yes to both. Also, I think it’s more a question of learning the actual rules, playbook and terminology more than anything. Same issue with Mailata. That first year is almost more classroom work than anything.

I’d love to sneak him onto the practice squad and designate him a protected player, but surely some team would grab him for their 53.

2 hours ago, hputenis said:

Happy Easter buddy. Saved a seat for you!

@EaglePhan1986 Your seat’s reserved for my face!

I'll be there peter cockntail!!

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I'd be very happy with Proctor or Iheanachor. Before this offseason, I wanted Proctor, as I felt he was a better fit for our run-centric offense. Given the new direction, I'd vote Iheanachor. But either one projects as a nice rookie project who steps in to start by midseason. No offense to Lane, but a rookie 1st round pick is going to hear their name called at RT.

I really like Iheanachor for the future RT. Proctor, I like a lot as well, but prefer him at OG.

Does Nick Foles own all of the 3 greatest performances by an Eagles Qb ever?

1. 2017 NFCCG against the #1 def

2. 7 TDs vs Raiders

3. SB 52

Jalen in SB 55 may have been better, but he didn’t win. Don’t know if that means a lot on this specific list

Still the most unbelievable lineup of the modern era

Manny hit 31 HRs that year hitting 7th

Just paid the board's bills for the upcoming year, so we're all set for another year.

I'll contact Mark, who does our upgrades/updates, and get those taken care of soon, too.

Everything here is about the same, still busy daily but everything is stable. Actually, improving a bit in ways. So I should get more time to do other things (like being here).

3 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I don't like Sadiq. Those rocked up 6'3" TE's with incredible athleticism who don't block well are tricky to work into an offense. Teams treat them like WRs and...no matter how well their speed tests at the combine...they aren't going to separate against a DB as well as a WR can. And he doesn't block well enough to make you pay for it when they match up their defense like he's a WR.

I'd be more interested if they had him cut a little mass to gain some quickness and just made him a WR. And that makes him more of a project and not worth the high pick anyway.

The TE's that actually blow up the NFL as receivers and offensive weapons are usually at least serviceable blockers. The threat of blocking usually makes it more of a challenge to properly match up and cover them. IMO, it makes them more of a receiving threat.

But, Sadiq does block well.