Just now, Br3 said:

Howie got his ring and "executive of the year” and got lazy and sloppy. Time to move on

Sloppy, sure, but I think he mostly just tied his own hands.

12 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I blame him a pretty good amount.  He's been kicking this can down the road for a while.   

Blame him for kicking too much down the line including bad players like Jeffery, sure. Blame him for a pandemic making a problem go from dicey to disastrous? I dunno about that 

45 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I consider it non-news.  I mean, they have to.  But, he's said he wants to take a year off... minimum.  

Because I didn't check them all... you are correct.   But the vast majority of the league... they are in good shape.   Saints are also in position to fight for a Super Bowl.  Eagles are looking for talent in the draft.

Yep.  Theo marches to the beat of his own drum.  He seems pretty set on taking a year off...and I’m not sure anything is going to change that.  The money will be there next year too.  

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Blame him for kicking too much down the line including bad players like Jeffery, sure. Blame him for a pandemic making a problem go from dicey to disastrous? I dunno about that 

I'm not blaming him for the pandemic.. I'm blaming him for kicking things down the road, constantly, with the assumption that the cap would go up indefinitely and that 'unforeseen circumstances' couldn't interrupt that cash flow.   That's why kicking things down the road is dangerous, because no one knows the future.   

Extend Jeffery - stupid.
Huge contract to Brooks after 1 Achilles injury - high risk.
Trade for and then extend Desean - stupid.
Push more of Cox's money into the future - stupid.
Big money for Malik Jackson, another aging former star - stupid.
Keep Peters around 3 years after his best years - stupid.
Pay Peters more money to play LT after he'd already been on the market and got no sniff elsewhere - stupid.

 

Kicking things into the future constantly is a risky game.  Howie got burned.  Eagles fans are going to be the ones to pay for it.  

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Kicking things into the future constantly is a risky game.  Howie got burned.  Eagles fans are going to be the ones to pay for it.  

Do you think the government will include some relief for suffering Eagles fans in their next COVID bill?

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

Do you think the government will include some relief for suffering Eagles fans in their next COVID bill?

The state already did by blocking fans from attending games.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The state already did by blocking fans from attending games.

Yup.  Those pesky public health rules getting in the way of entertainment.

My issue with the way Howie handles the cap is that he over-maximizes. You burn every penny and use every resource, and you're just left a little hamstrung sometimes. Say a player you really like becomes available via trade or waivers, maybe you can't make that move because your cap is too tight. I think having a little leeway makes a lot of sense. 

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Yup.  Those pesky public health rules getting in the way of entertainment.

Or in this case, preventing public aggravation and potentially inciting a riot at the Linc.   No one should have to witness this garbage in person... at least without a NC-17 rating on it.  

9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Do you think the government will include some relief for suffering Eagles fans in their next COVID bill?

Mitch McConnell is totally a Dallas fan  

52 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I just remember NO being an absurd number over the cap and going all in this year. They are better off this year than the Eagles but I expect them to fall off a cliff quickly. 

In regards to the Eagles cutting Jeffery, D. Jackson, Goodwin and JJAW plus rollover puts you around -$20M. Extend Barnett off his $10M option puts you to down approx -$12M. Before the season, I think the easy decision was to restructure Wentz but I don't know about that anymore. It's going to be tight, that's for sure. 

That's the big wrench thrown into all this. Howie pretty clearly banked on an expected sharp increase and got burned. Not sure how much you can blame him for that.

It’s also based on the projected $175M cap for 2021, which may not be a sure thing yet?  I thought I remembered the NFLPA was lobbying for the cap decrease to get spread out a little further ....

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Mitch McConnell is totally a Dallas fan  

Treading lightly here, but the Cowboys really do seem like a Republican team. 

They are not really America's Team, but rather Just-Under-Half-of-America's Team.

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Treading lightly here, but the Cowboys really do seem like a Republican team. 

They are not really America's Team, but rather Just-Under-Half-of-America's Team.

If they change their uniforms to orange then I’m sure you’re onto something 

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It’s also based on the projected $175M cap for 2021, which may not be a sure thing yet?  I thought I remembered the NFLPA was lobbying for the cap decrease to get spread out a little further ....

175 is the bottom of the ocean floor it can be 

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It’s also based on the projected $175M cap for 2021, which may not be a sure thing yet?  I thought I remembered the NFLPA was lobbying for the cap decrease to get spread out a little further ....

Regardless... the Eagles are the worst positioned team, no matter what the cap is for next year, except for the Saints.   If you are a veteran team that has all its holes filled in and is competing for a Lombardi currently, that's not a terrible situation.  Being a team that desperately needs to bring in young talent, that's an awful situation to be in.    

9 hours ago, Br3 said:

The Eagles are 4th in yards per carry and 27th in rushing attempts. 
 

Tells you everything you need to know about Doug Pederson. 

Marty ball.  It has to stop 

How much more upset are we at Howie right now if 2017 never happened 

We got our SB and it was one of the greatest stories ever told and they can never take it away from us but just imagine how we would feel if we were sitting in this mess without ever having won the SB. For that we will always be grateful. 

But Lurie has to man up and fire his boy or at the very least demote him because at this point, the guy is just flat out terrible at his job. 

8 minutes ago, Br3 said:

How much more upset are we at Howie right now if 2017 never happened 

We got our SB and it was one of the greatest stories ever told and they can never take it away from us but just imagine how we would feel if we were sitting in this mess without ever having won the SB. For that we will always be grateful. 

But Lurie has to man up and fire his boy or at the very least demote him because at this point, the guy is just flat out terrible at his job. 

The SB gave him a get out of jail free card.

Until that card expires the fans are screwed.

2 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

It was like 10-12 yards, Reagor is the type of player you feed the ball to.  Kind of like Miles Sanders.  We did neither 

Like I said yesterday, Im getting serious Golden Tate vibes from our coaching staff with Reagor. 

Caplan said on his podcast that Lurie wants a passing offense so we will never run the ball enough. If that's true that's a major problem 

3 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I think that's overstated.  He was in position to catch the ball if the throw was better.  I am not sure how he was coached to run the route so Solak saying it was a bad route is kind of meaningless unless he knows what Reagor was told.  The bigger problem was play design and Wentz's decision making.  They did not really have a route to beat the underneath man coverage.  Why did Wentz think the safety was playing underneath.  Why didn't they have a better route for Fulgham.  

Fulgham should have been in Reagor's place instead at least 

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Alright, change of pace...predict the starting lineup for 2021.  Not what you want...what you expect.

Dillard, Seumalo, Kelce, Brooks, Lane.  Goedert at TE.  Fulgham X, Reagor Z, Ward/Hightower in slot, Boobie and Carson in the backfield.  Second TE, second RB not on team. Scott as third down, change of pace back. Probably add another WR in draft but brought along slowly.  JJAW and Butler compete at Hback in TC. G depth added in draft.  Mailata, Wanogho are swing Ts  Driscoll learning to take some snaps  

Graham, Barnett (on a new deal giving cap relief) and Sweat at DE. Cox and Hargrave with healthy pec at DT.  Taylor at WIL, Singleton/TJ at MIKE. New SAM. Slay at #1 CB, early choice at #2 CB, Maddox in slot. Wallace at SS, McLeod at high safety but has a second day pick on his heals. Defense back ups in draft.

Elliott staves off competition in camp and regains form.

Multiple coaching changes.  Thanks Press for Philly Special, enjoy working with your brother.  Lurie forces an OC.  Schwartz not signed. And much to BigEFly’s delight, Marty is gone for good. Duce gets an OC job elsewhere. Eagles get two third round choices. 

The Covid situation doesn’t help and the Eagles put themselves in a bad position even before Covid hit they were going to have to do a lot of restructuring or trading guys a way to clear cap space. 

however this isn’t a surprise that this team wasn’t going to be very good as constructed this offseason. They badly needed an infusion of young talent going forward. @4for4EaglesNest, @bpac55 and I had a discussion on the old board back in March/April that this team was being overrated by the fans and the end of the era was closer then a super bowl was. Even if the Eagles hit on all their draft picks in the 2020 draft picks, to me that wasn’t enough to overcome the deficiencies in the other drafts to make the transition from the end of this era to the next era just go over smoothly.

I love the Eagles and I hate when I have to be negative with them but it was pretty obvious when you looked at the roster that they were in trouble in 2020 and 2021 with personnel. At the end of 2019, I thought the Eagles were gonna take steps back this year and even next year and 2022 was really the year you’re probably find yourself as a true contender again because you would have enough draft Picks to infuse into the roster and develop and at that point you were finally have some cap space again.

However howie has to restructure contracts just to get under the cap next year it’s going to hurt them in 2022. We are fortunate fulgham fell into our laps but like I’ve talked about for a couple weeks now this defense has no young players that you can say are the next era of Eagles football. What player who is young can you say is the next Fletcher Cox or the next Brandon Graham or the next Malcolm Jenkins. They don’t have any of those guys. At least at the end of the Andy Reid era you had some guys who are young who you thought could develop into those corner stone pieces of the defense. We have none of that on defense. It is scary to think about if Darius slay, Cox, Graham, jackson just completely fall off the cliff next year. Do you know how bad the defense will be. They’re not very good now it would be a immensely worse

 

32 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

The SB gave him a get out of jail free card.

Until that card expires the fans are screwed.

That was last year.  

22 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Dillard, Seumalo, Kelce, Brooks, Lane.  Goedert at TE.  Fulgham X, Reagor Z, Ward/Hightower in slot, Boobie and Carson in the backfield.  Second TE, second RB not on team. Scott as third down, change of pace back. Probably add another WR in draft but brought along slowly.  JJAW and Butler compete at Hback in TC. G depth added in draft.  Mailata, Wanogho are swing Ts  Driscoll learning to take some snaps  

Graham, Barnett (on a new deal giving cap relief) and Sweat at DE. Cox and Hargrave with healthy pec at DT.  Taylor at WIL, Singleton/TJ at MIKE. New SAM. Slay at #1 CB, early choice at #2 CB, Maddox in slot. Wallace at SS, McLeod at high safety but has a second day pick on his heals. Defense back ups in draft.

Elliott staves off competition in camp and regains form.

Multiple coaching changes.  Thanks Press for Philly Special, enjoy working with your brother.  Lurie forces an OC.  Schwartz not signed. And much to BigEFly’s delight, Marty is gone for good. Duce gets an OC job elsewhere. Eagles get two third round choices. 

I think that's pretty close to what they get.  Moving on from Schwartz gives Taylor a shot.  Schwartz has his favorites and he's clearly loathe to use Taylor, rookie or not.  I had Bradley in there under the assumption Schwartz is back.  If not, Taylor probably gets the first look at WILL.  

Agreed that the #3 LB will probably be a modestly priced veteran with some experience.

I have Kelce retiring with a first round pick in there at LG who can project to LT...but it will look like you said if he hangs on another year.

CB2 does figure to be a high pick.

Wallace, again, depends on the DC.  If we still have Schwartz, who is horrible at coaching up young DB's, expect Mcleod/Mills.  If there is a new DC, Wallace may get a shot.

 

That will all combine for a serviceable defense and another year of bad offense.  That's a .500 team with good health and luck, as little as 5-6 wins if they have their usual injuries and the rest of the division takes steps forward.

29 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Dillard, Seumalo, Kelce, Brooks, Lane.  Goedert at TE.  Fulgham X, Reagor Z, Ward/Hightower in slot, Boobie and Carson in the backfield.  Second TE, second RB not on team. Scott as third down, change of pace back. Probably add another WR in draft but brought along slowly.  JJAW and Butler compete at Hback in TC. G depth added in draft.  Mailata, Wanogho are swing Ts  Driscoll learning to take some snaps  

Graham, Barnett (on a new deal giving cap relief) and Sweat at DE. Cox and Hargrave with healthy pec at DT.  Taylor at WIL, Singleton/TJ at MIKE. New SAM. Slay at #1 CB, early choice at #2 CB, Maddox in slot. Wallace at SS, McLeod at high safety but has a second day pick on his heals. Defense back ups in draft.

Elliott staves off competition in camp and regains form.

Multiple coaching changes.  Thanks Press for Philly Special, enjoy working with your brother.  Lurie forces an OC.  Schwartz not signed. And much to BigEFly’s delight, Marty is gone for good. Duce gets an OC job elsewhere. Eagles get two third round choices. 

I like this breakdown.  I chuckled thinking that this was the 4th one I read and NONE of them had Gerry with a starting spot in 2021.  That in itself is contingent on Schwartz not being here next season — so I assume the other three agree with you that he won’t be retained.