3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

I'm okay with criticism. It's ridiculously over the top and obsessive in here. Including yourself. I would call it HDS. He broke you guys and you can't think of anything else.

That tells me all I need to know

Even with Surtain out the secondary looks good

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

It’s so rare for garden variety calf contusions in athletes to progress to this.

Now…a typical contusion will have tiny superficial intravascular clots. It gets called thrombophlebitis when it’s visible on ultrasound and progresses to the observable clinical syndrome with pain, redness, swelling. It’s not unheard of with athletes, but you really dont hear about it often.

So ultrasounding everyone that gets cleated isn’t reasonable…plus, it usually develops in a delayed fashion after the injury as clots propagate due to bleeding and inflammation. So someone really needs to have the clinical suspicion first…it’s not really a reflexive text for an on-field injury like an x-ray.

That question was for my comparison to the high school setting. Im sure not many are interested so if not, you can all stop reading right here.

This has potential to be like the pre-participation ECG debate. We dont do them. But people say, well, cost and resources are worth it if it saves a kids life. Athletes die of SCA every year. Large professional organizations still say- not necessary.

ECG is a cheap test and spits out results immediately. But for various other reasons, they're still not universally adopted for sports participation.

Ultrasound is a cheap test with instant results. Ultrasounds are readily available on many high school football sidelines. Our doctors have them. Athletic trainers can even become certified sonographers. I have personally done much of the work for musculoskeletal sonography including the hands on experience with patients, but stopped short of taking the exam. The possibility for serial imaging exists even outside of the professional realm.

This is rare, but next time an athlete has a nasty looking contusion, or a big hematoma and this is on parents minds, they may not be so comfortable with an athletic trainer just clearing their kid without imaging. Somewhere out there, a parent is going to be trying to get an US for their kid because of a contusion. If there is an adverse event, theyll be asking in court, why didnt we do an US if it could have prevented this?

This may create discussions in the medical community. We may need to come up with consensus best practices and standards of care for protection from litigation in the future. Even if the answer is still No, not necessary. This is rare, but this is what M&M conferences are all about. Someone at Jefferson Health is likely going to present this case in front of colleagues and then have to explain the why's. Then they'll talk about what maybe could be done differently next time. We had a guy get cleated. Pretty common injury. Can/should we have done something to prevent his adverse event? Or did we do enough, and we are happy with the result of just catching it early even though we didnt prevent it.

Its all really simple if the answer is really that this is entirely due to the long flight. But as you said, no proof.

Just now, eagle45 said:

You didn’t answer my question. Draw the connection between what was said and classless because of the blood clot.

You need to read the board from the time the news broke and it's the usual suspects clowning around throwing around passive aggressive sheet to stir the pot. I mean it can be funny at times, but it's stupid at this point to go right back to this same broken record. Okay the guy is injured now and maybe out for months now we can talk about a new topic maybe? Of course as you know It will continue on and on and on..

2 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

That's lower than Jalen's fantasy rank this season.

Barely

16 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I have to give it to you. When you hate a dude you are true to it 🤣

I dont hate him. I just hate how bad he sucks at being a QB and the fact that he is holding the team back so significantly.

15 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

I'm okay with criticism. It's ridiculously over the top and obsessive in here. Including yourself. I would call it HDS. He broke you guys and you can't think of anything else.

Thats funny because HDS also works for Herbert Derangement Syndrome.

26 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

The Hurts hating in here is ignorant and insensitive to a guy who has a blood clot that has worsened and shelved him. It's classless, but I shouldn't expect anything differently.

Okay, regarding this weekend. Will take an early stab at it...

Eagles need this game and are in desperation mode. Think the defense has been slowly, but surely coming back. Expect the next stage in comeuppance here, with a healthier JC and more Trotter snaps this week. Greenard should come back and cover the Hunt injury and actually lbe a noticeable contributor. Moore should be a stabilizer back there at safety in regards to filling in for the M.Carter injury.

On offense, I expect we get that backup boost from McKee and he does a solid job, but nothing spectacular. Another week of Goedert and Devanta back (and actually together at same time) will do wonders here. The O-line hopefully gets Kendall back. And who knows, maybe Dickerson gets involved here and buttresses the running game and having the Tush Push back in the play book. Feel McKee and Cooper will be a go to tandem here in this game with their prior rapport. At RB, I see Steele getting his 1st snaps and providing a spark when he's in there.

So with all of that said. The line is talking to me. Eagles cover and actually win this one in a season saver to keep all of our hopes alive. FOR NOW. 1 week at a time....

Panthers-17

Eagles-24

Cooper 1 TD

Smith 1 TD

Hollywood Brown with a bomb.

*Hope Matt's okay....

No one hates him.

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

That question was for my comparison to the high school setting. Im sure not many are interested so if not, you can all stop reading right here.

This has potential to be like the pre-participation ECG debate. We dont do them. But people say, well, cost and resources are worth it if it saves a kids life. Athletes die of SCA every year. Large professional organizations still say- not necessary.

ECG is a cheap test and spits out results immediately. But for various other reasons, they're still not universally adopted for sports participation.

Ultrasound is a cheap test with instant results. Ultrasounds are readily available on many high school football sidelines. Our doctors have them. Athletic trainers can even become certified sonographers. I have personally done much of the work for musculoskeletal sonography including the hands on experience with patients, but stopped short of taking the exam. The possibility for serial imaging exists even outside of the professional realm.

This is rare, but next time an athlete has a nasty looking contusion, or a big hematoma and this is on parents minds, they may not be so comfortable with an athletic trainer just clearing their kid without imaging. Somewhere out there, a parent is going to be trying to get an US for their kid because of a contusion. If there is an adverse event, theyll be asking in court, why didnt we do an US if it could have prevented this?

This may create discussions in the medical community. We may need to come up with consensus best practices and standards of care for protection from litigation in the future. Even if the answer is still No, not necessary. This is rare, but this is what M&M conferences are all about. Someone at Jefferson Health is likely going to present this case in front of colleagues and then have to explain the why's. Then they'll talk about what maybe could be done differently next time. We had a guy get cleated. Pretty common injury. Can/should we have done something to prevent his adverse event? Or did we do enough, and we are happy with the result of just catching it early even though we didnt prevent it.

Its all really simple if the answer is really that this is entirely due to the long flight. But as you said, no proof.

The thrombophlebitis doesn’t develop at the time of the injury though. It would be delayed. So the ultrasound wouldn’t be useful as a test in the field (for this).

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

You need to read the board from the time the news broke and it's the usual suspects clowning around throwing around passive aggressive sheet to stir the pot. I mean it can be funny at times, but it's stupid at this point to go right back to this same broken record. Okay the guy is injured now and maybe out for months now we can talk about a new topic maybe? Of course as you know It will continue on and on and on..

I want you to quote one person on this blog with content that was "insensitive and classless” in the context of Hurts having a blood clot. Absent that, we all now know you were talking out of your ass and are, in fact, not OK with criticism.

Just now, eagle45 said:

The thrombophlebitis doesn’t develop at the time of the injury though. It would be delayed. So the ultrasound wouldn’t be useful as a test in the field (for this).

Right, but Im saying we can still theoretically manage that, at some high schools at least.

Maybe thats the caveat that protects us peons at schools though. It cant really be the standard of care if the resource is not available.

Its one thing to mandate a rectal thermometer for heat stroke. Nobody is going to be able to mandate every high school to buy a 50k+ US unit, or have a doctor bring one, AND have staff capable of using it, and reading it.

Dodgers walked the tying run in 🤣

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I want you to quote one person on this blog with content that was "insensitive and classless” in the context of Hurts having a blood clot. Absent that, we all now know you were talking out of your ass and are, in fact, not OK with criticism.

It's classless to kick someone while they are down with this type of event. Give it a rest for 24 hours. There is absolutely glow abound with certain people because he's knocked out. That's it. Not explaining this further. Bye.

1 minute ago, jojodancer said:

It's classless to kick someone while they are down with this type of event. Give it a rest for 24 hours. There is absolutely glow abound with certain people because he's knocked out. That's it. Not explaining this further. Bye.

you lost.

We will have a top 4-5 pick so what we doing?

On 10/14/2026 at 4:53 PM, jojodancer said:

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

It's classless to kick someone while they are down with this type of event. Give it a rest for 24 hours. There is absolutely glow abound with certain people because he's knocked out. That's it. Not explaining this further. Bye.

So you could not find one example of someone actually being insensitive or classless in their critique of Hurts.

But you can repost this about Sirianni….and say it’s classless and insensitive to criticize Hurts in any capacity because he’s injured. You are pathetic and a coward who can’t back up their off the wall hyperbole.

1 minute ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

We will have a top 4-5 pick so what we doing?

currently working on AI videos of Smith committing heinous acts, to be released right before the draft so he lasts till pick 4-5.

Getting the QB slightly later. Operating under no false pretenses that youll find the next generational QB by picking at the top of the draft. College football stopped producing those types of prospects. Just get one who can run your offense adequately.

Can’t wait to watch T!ts McKee ball out on Sunday. He be lighten up those pantherzzz

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

Can’t wait to watch boob$ McKee ball out on Sunday. He be lighten up those pantherzzz

I can’t say t!ts

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

So you could not find one example of someone actually being insensitive or classless in their critique of Hurts.

But you can repost this about Sirianni….and say it’s classless and insensitive to criticize Hurts in any capacity because he’s injured. You are pathetic and a coward who can’t back up their off the wall hyperbole.

some might say, that is a troll. But not here. These guys are allowed to act that way. We just cant say Hurts is a bad passer. Thats frowned upon.

Jojo- girl, you been had. Bet you’re real upset over Shane Gillis’ comment too

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

some might say, that is a troll. But not here. These guys are allowed to act that way. We just cant say Hurts is a bad passer. Thats frowned upon.

Not one person has wished Hurts any ill will. I remember seeing a post in here that someone wished for Nick Foles to get hurt. I assume that was not frowned upon.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

you lost.

No one is losing anything. Looking forward to seeing McKee. Wish the kid a great game. And FTR, Been right about Hurts. Argument has been dead for quite a long time. No idea why you wanna keep at it. You don't get an unlimited statute of limitations here. 🤣 Yeah. He will suck one day. I am sure.

Just now, jojodancer said:

No one is losing anything. Looking forward to seeing McKee. Wish the kid a great game. And FTR, Been right about Hurts. Argument has been dead for quite a long time. No idea why you wanna keep at it. You don't get an unlimited statute of limitations here. 🤣 Yeah. He will suck one day. I am sure.

you lost

Just now, jojodancer said:

No one is losing anything. Looking forward to seeing McKee. Wish the kid a great game. And FTR, Been right about Hurts. Argument has been dead for quite a long time. No idea why you wanna keep at it. You don't get an unlimited statute of limitations here. 🤣 Yeah. He will suck one day. I am sure.

If you are going to call people classless and insensitive, then substantiate it. Stop saying that there was a general glow about people.