6 minutes ago, MF POON said:

And hire who? If they cant get the OC call right, whose to day they hire the right HC?

The current HC is probably why no legitimate OC wanted to come here

2 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

There is very much something to work with- but I'm not sure the talent and scheme are going to produce a consistent result. The oppo D just doesn't respect the blitz pick up

Hate to say it, but they can't leave Mannion in place as is.

They might change it up now that Tanner is the one going forward. It was a short week change with an offense tailor made for Hurts

5 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

I mean it really it doesn't matter either way. Maybe you keep him in there so you can keep losing. He's a good cheerleader. You want to know what a good coach looks like. Andy Reid. When you see that every week in KC, I know what a good coach looks like. He's terrible. He's a cheerleader. Who knew how to call for a Tush Push with a legendary roster. When it came to oucoaching someone and winning a game due to his actually coaching. I can't remember many.

You know what Andy wasn’t good at?

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

He’s lost his repeatable accuracy, can’t lose a play here or there when working with such a slim margin… it can get better. They might want ****can the Mannion stuff, that’s just throwing away plays and killing drives. Both McKee and Hurts have looked much better in shotgun and in spread formations.

He's actually shown more of throwing with timing with the new offense. You saw when him and the receivers weren't on the same page. Ball was out though

Just now, AmericanEagle77 said:

Yes, Andy Reid is a 1st ballot Hall of Famer coach. Duh. Everyone knows this. But your chance of finding another Andy Reid in any given coaching season is practically zero. Good luck.

And by the way since some people don't seem to get this either, McVay and Shanahan came from Mike Shanahan's Washington staff very young and were exposed to a tremendous amount of football for their age. Andy at this point in the NFL is one of one.

So you basically have a 0% chance of getting someone on the level of those three unless you basically win the lottery. I hope that's not the goal at least?

I get that. He's not even cloooose to that level. He's a good cheerleader. That's it. CEO coach and terrible. Need more than that. His repertoire was to be a good offensive mind. Don't see it at all. What adjustments does he ever make to win a game? Answer. None. The good ones play well in the 2nd half.

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

He’s lost his repeatable accuracy, can’t lose a play here or there when working with such a slim margin… it can get better. They might want ****can the Mannion stuff, that’s just throwing away plays and killing drives. Both McKee and Hurts have looked much better in shotgun and in spread formations.

I think most people feel like you need to give people reps, and he's had no reps. That honestly wasn't bad for a first outing compared to what I expected from him in new scheme. I expected tragedy. What we got is being able to move the ball sometimes, but not enough (especially early). The fact that it got better throughout is good.

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

You know what Andy wasn’t good at?

Dieting?

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

They might change it up now that Tanner is the one going forward. It was a short week change with an offense tailor made for Hurts

This offense is tailor made for defenses but not a single qb in the League could do anything with it.

10 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

What did you learn today, Lambo? Anything about hot routes?

I learned that you still don’t know what one is

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

They won’t fire Nick mid season.

And I don't expect or want that. let nick finish out the season, then you see where you stand with the draft and QB. Again I think we have to look for hurts replacement in this draft or next and that means you can get a new coaching staff. I don't trust nick or any of these coaches to develop a qb

I gotta be honest, how I was feeling in the moment. When the Eagles cut it to 19-14 and got the ball back. I didn't want them to win. My natural feel has organically shifted officially to "I want them to lose" mode.

The biggest issue with keeping Sirianni is the merry go round it forces at OC. If you get a good one, he gets poached and you are searching for a new one. If you get a bad one... you fire him, and you are looking for a new one. That's unsustainable. The miracle is that we managed to get a Super Bowl victory out of it.

1 minute ago, jojodancer said:

I get that. He's not even cloooose to that level. He's a good cheerleader. That's it. CEO coach and terrible. Need more than that.

Maybe try giving him a QB that's not the exact opposite of his prototype and see how that works? I honestly do not think you can get further from Phillip Rivers than Jalen Hurts, even in the winning championship parts. I know Andy Reid is 1 of 1 but most people get a QB for their scheme rather than uproot their scheme for the QB.

6 minutes ago, Know Life said:

Apparently, winning football games isn't who we are.

Lost 9 of their last 14. Not sure we can make the argument all sirianni and hurts do is win. (Albeit hurts didn’t play today)

2 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I think most people feel like you need to give people reps, and he's had no reps. That honestly wasn't bad for a first outing compared to what I expected from him in new scheme. I expected tragedy. What we got is being able to move the ball sometimes, but not enough (especially early). The fact that it got better throughout is good.

How many reps did Case Keenum have before he beat the Eagles a couple weeks ago? Granted... he's been around for ever. But, he also had a much better coach designing things for him to succeed. There was nothing designed for McKee to succeed.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

I gotta be honest, how I was feeling in the moment. When the Eagles cut it to 19-14 and got the ball back. I didn't want them to win. My natural feel has organically shifted officially to "I want them to lose" mode.

Well you may as well suck d!ck for money then

4 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Schematically they are broken. Which is odd to say, because honestly there is no scheme…no plan, nothing. Basically go out there and block somebody if you can is the coaching it seems.

Yeah, the right side in particular is a journey. They do nothing, even to the ok stamdard

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

This offense is tailor made for defenses but not a single qb in the League could do anything with it.

I'm fully embracing the tank but I am curious how Tanner will look like now as the starter and getting players back healthy

Mannion has to go. One day he might be a good coach/play caller. He was dealt an unfair hand but this just isn’t working.

1 minute ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Maybe try giving him a QB that's not the exact opposite of his prototype and see how that works? I honestly do not think you can get further from Phillip Rivers than Jalen Hurts, even in the winning championship parts. I know Andy Reid is 1 of 1 but most people get a QB for their scheme rather than uproot their scheme for the QB.

If you are saying that then you need to blame Howie. I'm all for blaming a lot of peeps here today. But we have to know the correct order. THIS IS ONE BIG SHIDD SHOW from championship contender to pretender.

Someone has gotta get fired but who?

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

The biggest issue with keeping Sirianni is the merry go round it forces at OC. If you get a good one, he gets poached and you are searching for a new one. If you get a bad one... you fire him, and you are looking for a new one. That's unsustainable. The miracle is that we managed to get a Super Bowl victory out of it.

It's Hurts, not Sirianni. I've pointed this out before, but not even defensive head coach teams get their OCs poached every year. Defensive head coach teams where the OCs are literally head coach of the offense do not get their OCs poached every single year. This is not a coincidence.

It's not a coincidence the OCs getting poached are the ones that manage to put up a competent offense despite the QB limitations. Then notice how when brought in they're expected to handle QB projects rather than marquee QB picks.

Working well with Hurts makes OCs look really good.

Down 19-14 and got the ball back at midfield. First play…. Bad snap. I knew it was over right then and there.

Just now, xxeaglesfanxx said:

Someone has gotta get fired but who?

Mannion.

7 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Fire everyone.

Vic stays

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

They might change it up now that Tanner is the one going forward. It was a short week change with an offense tailor made for Hurts

I saw Smitty at TE. Fire them all. Nothing else changing will help.