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Just now, RPeeteRules said:

She saw Pietro as dead, as the current Pietro (not the Avengers one).  It was towards the end of the most recent episode.  It was quick, like when she saw a dead Vision.

She saw Pietro die as a flashback to Ultron. He's dead, he's gone. Vision is dead, he's gone as was proven when he tried to leave. 

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45 minutes ago, wholesale_Melvin said:

makes you wonder why she saw him as dead then.

Fighting reality and emotion.

Saw it posted elsewhere that the last 3 episodes of WandaVision will be an hour long.  I really hope so.

 

5 hours ago, RPeeteRules said:

She saw Pietro as dead, as the current Pietro (not the Avengers one).  It was towards the end of the most recent episode.  It was quick, like when she saw a dead Vision.

Wonder if anyone is going to take the time to match up the bullet holes in Ultron Pietro compared to the bullet holes in Wandavision Pietro, then come up with a theory if they don't match.

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2 hours ago, wholesale_Melvin said:

Wonder if anyone is going to take the time to match up the bullet holes in Ultron Pietro compared to the bullet holes in Wandavision Pietro, then come up with a theory if they don't match.

There are like 40 other questions I need answered right now now, I don’t think bullet hole locations is making the cut. :roll:

21 hours ago, wholesale_Melvin said:

makes you wonder why she saw him as dead then.

Probably, unknowingly, pulling the living versions of her dead loved ones in from different dimensions, the Pietro version being from the X-Men dimension.  The dead dog showed that she can't control everything, and doesn't understand how, or why.

Watched IW earlier and man you can see why Wanda is so messed up. Having to do that to vision only for it to fail when Thanos reverses time. 

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54 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Watched IW earlier and man you can see why Wanda is so messed up. Having to do that to vision only for it to fail when Thanos reverses time. 

Wanda’s history is just one messed up trauma after another.

Lives in a war torn country.

Entire family but brother killed by a rocket strike. Spent days under rumble with a undenotated stark weapon precariously above her and Pietro.

experimented on by hydra

A city in her town is ripped from the ground to destroy the world.

ultron kills her brother

she becomes an avenger only to accidentally kill a bunch of civilians. She becomes the face of superheroes who cannot be Trusted.

is arrested in Civil War, thrown in a secret prison with a power repressing collar on her neck.

Went into hiding living on the run.

Forced to kill Vision, only for him to come back to life to watch Thanos kill him again. Then dusted.

7 hours ago, The_Omega said:

Probably, unknowingly, pulling the living versions of her dead loved ones in from different dimensions, the Pietro version being from the X-Men dimension.  The dead dog showed that she can't control everything, and doesn't understand how, or why.

There's another way to view that.  She's completely selfish in this world, it's literally all about her.  She brought Vision back to life, brought her brother back to life...but "recast" him because it would be too painful to look at his actual face.  She created twins for herself to make her happy.  She has kidnapped people and has them trapped as prisoners doing her will to create a happy Stepford town for herself.  The ones that serve no purpose on the edge of town are frozen until needed.  There were no children around until she had her own and created others for them to play with or to fill out the town cast of characters.  

But the kids' dog dies?  Doesn't care to revive it to keep her kids from being sad.  Or reversing time by rewinding the show like she did a couple times already when the "plot" wasn't going the way she wanted.  She could have done that with the dog, but didn't bother. And lectured her kids that you can't bring back loved ones just because you're sad.  The look in her eyes showed us she was aware of how hypocritical it was to say that.

Then again, I'm still unclear if the kids are real or not.  Same with Pietro.  Can she not only bring people back to life but create life?  (don't tell Anakin Skywalker).

7 hours ago, NOTW said:

She brought Vision back to life, brought her brother back to life...but "recast" him because it would be too painful to look at his actual face.

Ok so I get your theory but here's where I disagree bud. It's no coincidence that Pietro is Quicksilver from the Xmen. She's not brought her brother back to life, she's brought Pietro him another multiverse. 

11 hours ago, NOTW said:

There's another way to view that.  She's completely selfish in this world, it's literally all about her.  She brought Vision back to life, brought her brother back to life...but "recast" him because it would be too painful to look at his actual face.  She created twins for herself to make her happy.  She has kidnapped people and has them trapped as prisoners doing her will to create a happy Stepford town for herself.  The ones that serve no purpose on the edge of town are frozen until needed.  There were no children around until she had her own and created others for them to play with or to fill out the town cast of characters.  

But the kids' dog dies?  Doesn't care to revive it to keep her kids from being sad.  Or reversing time by rewinding the show like she did a couple times already when the "plot" wasn't going the way she wanted.  She could have done that with the dog, but didn't bother. And lectured her kids that you can't bring back loved ones just because you're sad.  The look in her eyes showed us she was aware of how hypocritical it was to say that.

Then again, I'm still unclear if the kids are real or not.  Same with Pietro.  Can she not only bring people back to life but create life?  (don't tell Anakin Skywalker).

I think she only brought the kids out cause when she and Vision had that fight, vision brought up that he never saw any kids while he walked to work and was asking where they all were. So the Halloween episode seemed to be wanda massively overcompensating, and it was amazing that pietro brought it up.

49 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said:

please please please; i personally think, other than thanos, ultron is the most complete marvel u villain. while the move itself wasn't the best, the character of ultron was well done. 

4 minutes ago, wholesale_Melvin said:

please please please; i personally thing, other than thanos, ultron is the most complete marvel u villain. while the move itself wasn't the best, the character of ultron was well done. 

Well he did replicate himself, could be one wasn’t destroyed.

8 hours ago, Talkingbirds said:

Well he did replicate himself, could be one wasn’t destroyed.

thats not a bad theory.

 

personally i think pietro is not himself at all. have a feeling it could be mephisto or nightmare. 

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I’d love to see James Spader return as a more meanacing ultron. His intro scene was amazing but they undermined it with the quips later.  
 

It would be fairly fitting to see Ultron manipulate Wanda the way Wanda manipulated the avengers in Age of Ultron. 

8 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Ok so I get your theory but here's where I disagree bud. It's no coincidence that Pietro is Quicksilver from the Xmen. She's not brought her brother back to life, she's brought Pietro him another multiverse. 

If she's aware of a multiverse at this point.  All we know is she's grieving and created a world for herself and brought her brother back.  Pietro said to her that she couldn't bare to look at his face so she gave him a new face.  Whether that turns out to be a multiverse (probably given the new Doctor Strange movie) we'll see.  

Random thought.  When Drax pretends to be invisible in Infinity War, is that some type of reference or mock to John Cena?  

5 hours ago, NOTW said:

If she's aware of a multiverse at this point.  All we know is she's grieving and created a world for herself and brought her brother back.  Pietro said to her that she couldn't bare to look at his face so she gave him a new face.  Whether that turns out to be a multiverse (probably given the new Doctor Strange movie) we'll see.  

Just caught up this weekend - liking it a lot.

I do believe I've read that Wandavision does have a direct impact on Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness...

Does the fact that the episode took place on Halloween mean anything or is it just because the episode was originally scheduled to be released last fall?

5 hours ago, NOTW said:

Random thought.  When Drax pretends to be invisible in Infinity War, is that some type of reference or mock to John Cena?  

From Daddys Home 2?

22 minutes ago, Agent23 said:

From Daddys Home 2?

Idk. I don't follow wrestling but I there was that meme about Cena being invisible. 

On 2/15/2021 at 5:35 PM, 20Safety_Hazards said:

Wanda’s history is just one messed up trauma after another.

Lives in a war torn country.

Entire family but brother killed by a rocket strike. Spent days under rumble with a undenotated stark weapon precariously above her and Pietro.

experimented on by hydra

A city in her town is ripped from the ground to destroy the world.

ultron kills her brother

she becomes an avenger only to accidentally kill a bunch of civilians. She becomes the face of superheroes who cannot be Trusted.

is arrested in Civil War, thrown in a secret prison with a power repressing collar on her neck.

Went into hiding living on the run.

Forced to kill Vision, only for him to come back to life to watch Thanos kill him again. Then dusted.

The first time she is described to the avengers: "Shes weird"

41 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Idk. I don't follow wrestling but I there was that meme about Cena being invisible. 

Cena’s saying is "U Can’t See Me”.

1 hour ago, RPeeteRules said:

Cena’s saying is "U Can’t See Me”.

Right. Which became a meme about him being invisible. 

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