July 18, 20233 yr Trump had a blessed presidency up until Covid. No major disasters, no international crises. He had exactly one crisis to deal with in 4 years, and instead of stepping up and putting the country first he made it all about himself repeatedly, bungling a political gift along the way. A competent president would get a rallying effect. Instead we get "bleach injections" and "UV rays"
July 18, 20233 yr 32 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Trump had a blessed presidency up until Covid. No major disasters, no international crises. He had exactly one crisis to deal with in 4 years, and instead of stepping up and putting the country first he made it all about himself repeatedly, bungling a political gift along the way. A competent president would get a rallying effect. Instead we get "bleach injections" and "UV rays" Lol so covid was a political gift??? I guess enough time has passed where you feel like you can make up blatant nonsense and no one will question it. There was nothing anyone could have done about covid and the data bears out that indisputable fact. Biden did literally nothing about it either. What it did do was destroy the economy which opened up the only window the Dems had for winning that election.
July 18, 20233 yr 16 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Lol so covid was a political gift??? Of course it was. When 911 hit, Bush's poll numbers sky rocketed. It rode him to re-election even after starting an unnecessary war. Tragedy rallies the country...unless you're a divisive idiot like Trump holding daily press conferences about who everyone should blame and what crackpot unproven anti-parasitic drugs everyone should take. If he wasn't such a disgusting scumbag he would've cruised to re-election because, not in spite of, Covid.
July 18, 20233 yr 8 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Of course it was. When 911 hit, Bush's poll numbers sky rocketed. It rode him to re-election even after starting an unnecessary war. Tragedy rallies the country...unless you're a divisive idiot like Trump holding daily press conferences about who everyone should blame and what crackpot unproven anti-parasitic drugs everyone should take. If he wasn't such a disgusting scumbag he would've cruised to re-election because, not in spite of, Covid. 9/11 was 100% different and not at all analogous to covid. We were attacked by a foreign adversary. And back then the media would never have crossed the line and blamed Bush for that the way they did with Trump and covid. And just curious, how did the Afghanistan pullout "gift" help Biden? So easy, what a gift that was for him! The fact that you guys are riding with this narrative makes me think youre all drunk. The media (and you all) went into absolute hysteria over covid and there was literally nothing anyone could have done about it. But we had daily death trackers and it was handled like Trump was personally coughing covid into everyones mouths. It was a total farce and transparently political to anyond with a brain cell. Reality has now proven how ridiculous it was but youre all still pretending like it wasnt a huge political lie.
July 18, 20233 yr It's really confusing why voters might've lost confidence in the guy who was airlifted to Walter Reed mere days after he made fun of Biden for wearing a mask in his presence.
July 18, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: 9/11 was 100% different and not at all analogous to covid. We were attacked by a foreign adversary. And back then the media would never have crossed the line and blamed Bush for that the way they did with Trump and covid. Of course it's analogous to Covid. Both were huge national tragedies that gave an opportunity to rally the country. Honestly, any adult could've rallied the country behind it. But Trump's not an adult, he's a petulant child who sees everything by what he can extract from it. The irony is that his constant cowardice and fear of being held responsible is the reason why he took so much blame. Basically, he played himself. Quote And just curious, how did the Afghanistan pullout "gift" help Biden? So easy, what a gift that was for him! Obviously the Afghanistan pullout isn't even in the same conversation as the other two. 13 soldiers died halfway across the world in a war where thousands of soldiers had already died. 9/11 killed thousands of civilians and Covid has killed over a million. I realize in the world of right wing media, the Afghanistan pullout was the greatest tragedy the world has ever seen but in the real world it was the unfortunately inevitable result of leaving a war that had gone on for way too long. Quote The fact that you guys are riding with this narrative makes me think youre all drunk. The media (and you all) went into absolute hysteria over covid and there was literally nothing anyone could have done about it. But we had daily death trackers and it was handled like Trump was personally coughing covid into everyones mouths. It was a total farce and transparently political to anyond with a brain cell. Reality has now proven how ridiculous it was but youre all still pretending like it wasnt a huge political lie. Again, none of what you're saying happens to a normal President. Trump thrives on conflict. He brings it on himself. He does everything he can to create it between himself and the media. And on top of that, he's Nixon-level paranoid about how he's perceived. So while a normal President/adult would've seen the numbers ticking up on the news as a reason to calm the country, he saw it as a personal attack on him. Again, Trump's own personal flaws were why he failed so badly. He's a damaged, weird, childish loser. Stop defending him.
July 18, 20233 yr 7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: It's really confusing why voters might've lost confidence in the guy who was airlifted to Walter Reed mere days after he made fun of Biden for wearing a mask in his presence. Did you lose confidence when Biden promised to end it and actually did nothing instead? Or when Trump handed him a layup where he could have claimed the victory for ending the Afghan war, and instead just surrendered to terrorists because he forgot about it?
July 18, 20233 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: Of course it's analogous to Covid. Both were huge national tragedies that gave an opportunity to rally the country. Honestly, any adult could've rallied the country behind it. But Trump's not an adult, he's a petulant child who sees everything by what he can extract from it. The irony is that his constant cowardice and fear of being held responsible is the reason why he took so much blame. Basically, he played himself. Obviously the Afghanistan pullout isn't even in the same conversation as the other two. 13 soldiers died halfway across the world in a war where thousands of soldiers had already died. 9/11 killed thousands of civilians and Covid has killed over a million. I realize in the world of right wing media, the Afghanistan pullout was the greatest tragedy the world has ever seen but in the real world it was the unfortunately inevitable result of leaving a war that had gone on for way too long. Again, none of what you're saying happens to a normal President. Trump thrives on conflict. He brings it on himself. He does everything he can to create it between himself and the media. And on top of that, he's Nixon-level paranoid about how he's perceived. So while a normal President/adult would've seen the numbers ticking up on the news as a reason to calm the country, he saw it as a personal attack on him. Again, Trump's own personal flaws were why he failed so badly. He's a damaged, weird, childish loser. Stop defending him. Oh so your analogy comparing a virus to an act of war is fine but mine isnt. Interesting. And how the hell could he have rallied the country around covid when the press was calling him a murderer and racist every single minute and blaming him for covid in the first place? He was immediately put on the defensive because the media saw it as a political opportunity. And thus we get the unifying Daily Death Tracker. Sorry not letting you all change the narrative. The fact that you think devastating the economy was somehow a gift is one of the dumbest pieces of revisionist history Ive ever seen.
July 18, 20233 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Did you lose confidence when Biden promised to end it and actually did nothing instead? Or when Trump handed him a layup where he could have claimed the victory for ending the Afghan war, and instead just surrendered to terrorists because he forgot about it? He released 5K Taliban soldiers
July 18, 20233 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: He released 5K Taliban soldiers Biden surrendered an entire country to them
July 18, 20233 yr 5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Did you lose confidence when Biden promised to end it and actually did nothing instead? Or when Trump handed him a layup where he could have claimed the victory for ending the Afghan war, and instead just surrendered to terrorists because he forgot about it? Biden has my confidence up until the point he attempts to subvert democracy by submitting false slates of electors and when that fails, radicalizes his followers into domestic terrorists to threaten the life of his own VP and desecrate a national monument. Stand back and stand by, Michael!
July 18, 20233 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Biden surrendered an entire country to them Biden thankfully left Afghanistan. Who gives an F who has control of that sheethole?
July 18, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Oh so your analogy comparing a virus to an act of war is fine but mine isnt. Interesting. Of course. If you think the Afghanistan pull out is on par with 9/11 as far as national tragedies then you're too dumb to argue with.
July 18, 20233 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: Biden thankfully left Afghanistan. Who gives an F who has control of that sheethole? You do, because you just criticized Trump for releasing prisoners when Biden immediately made the entire country the Taliban. Trump literally teed that up for Biden, all he had to do was give 2 ishs and even try to plan the withdrawal. Instead he forgot to do his homework, woke up the day of the exam and said "Its cool our Afghan partners have this totally handed" 'a few hours later.....'
July 18, 20233 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: You do, because you just criticized Trump for releasing prisoners when Biden immediately made the entire country the Taliban. I made fun of your layup comment, dumb F. Quote Trump literally teed that up for Biden And you're right back to it. Again, you're too dumb to argue with.
July 18, 20233 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: Of course. If you think the Afghanistan pull out is on par with 9/11 as far as national tragedies then you're too dumb to argue with. We werent measuring national tragedies, we're talking about if they were political opportunities or not. There was nothing anyone could have done about covid. Even if Trump dreamed up some obviously-BS national plan, it would have inevitably failed and you'd have blamed him anyway. It was a politically unsolvable problem, as evidenced by Bidens failure to do literally anything to stop it.
July 18, 20233 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: I made fun of your layup comment, dumb F. And you're right back to it. Again, you're too dumb to argue with. Oh it must have been just too hilarious of a joke.
July 18, 20233 yr Lefty 1: covid was such a gift Rational, reasonable Mike31mt: no it wasnt Lefty 2: yeah it totally was, just like 9/11 Sane, logical Mike31mt: those two are not alike. If they were, then what about Afghanistan? Lefty 2: that doesnt count because reasons, youre so dumb!
July 18, 20233 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: We werent measuring national tragedies, we're talking about if they were political opportunities or not. There was nothing anyone could have done about covid. Even if Trump dreamed up some obviously-BS national plan, it would have inevitably failed and you'd have blamed him anyway. It was a politically unsolvable problem, as evidenced by Bidens failure to do literally anything to stop it. We're going in circles. Yes, the fact that they're national tragedies is the whole point. Like I said in my original post, massive national tragedies rally the country. Like 9/11 and Covid. And I've already explained what Trump could have done. He couldn't have stopped Covid from spreading completely, but he could have acted like an adult who was president over the whole country, not just his rabid base of incels. Instead he acted like a paranoid, divisive weirdo who didn't give an F if anyone that didn't worship him died. He's a mentally ill loser who's incapable of empathy. And it showed during Covid.
July 18, 20233 yr 37 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: And just curious, how did the Afghanistan pullout "gift" help Biden? So easy, what a gift that was for him! Trump orchestrated the pull out 16 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: He released 5K Taliban soldiers And locked the Afghan government out of negations with the Taliban.
July 18, 20233 yr 21 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Trump orchestrated the pull out And locked the Afghan government out of negations with the Taliban. Let's not forget the Orange imbecile wanted to invite the Taliban to Camp David...
July 18, 20233 yr 37 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Rational, reasonable Mike31mt: Sane, logical Mike31mt: i don't even care about the riveting discussion going on right now, this here is gold.
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