July 13, 20233 yr Can go in either thread https://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-thanks-biden-difficult-decision-155408501.html https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4086022-biden-defends-cluster-munitions-ukraine/ https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/07/politics/joe-biden-cluster-munitions-ukraine/index.html https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/opinion-why-biden-sending-cluster-bombs-to-ukraine-is-a-very-bad-idea/ar-AA1dIU2H
July 13, 20233 yr 13 hours ago, NOTW said: She has a law degree, she can't be a total moron. She's just a terrible speaker. Anyone who thinks Biden is a bad speaker, just needs to watch a few minutes of her to be reminded how much better he is.
July 13, 20233 yr Secret Service concluded its White House cocaine investigation due to lack of evidence. We will never know to whom it belonged to.
July 13, 20233 yr Dude, I make my assistant carry my blow for me. I'm not going to jail for possession.
July 18, 20233 yr 7 hours ago, Procus said: https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/biden-in-las-vegas-president-attends-fundraiser-due-at-unlv-on-wednesday/ Here, you can watch the video, perv.
July 18, 20233 yr 8 hours ago, Procus said: You're an old man in a retirement home, Procus. Stop fantasizing about kids, you sick F.
July 18, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: You're an old man in a retirement home, Procus. Stop fantasizing about kids, you sick F. "Every accusation is a confession"
July 18, 20233 yr "presidents don't really impact the economy that much, but don't forget about the Trump economy!"
July 18, 20233 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: "presidents don't really impact the economy that much, but don't forget about the Trump economy!" But...what about 2030?
July 18, 20233 yr I don't broadly disagree that presidents have generally a minor effect on the economy in the near term and that policies often aren't actually felt until years later. Especially when legislation is written so that certain effects expire, such as tax breaks for wage earners from Trump's tax bill. Which is why acting like Trump was some economic wizard was always hilariously stupid. The main impact presidents have IMHO is in economic sentiment. MAGAs all thought the economy was awesome Jan 21 2017, and terrible Jan 21 2021. Likewise anti-Trumpers all thought Trump would tank the economy. The reality is that Trump was going to treat the economy the same way he runs his business .. that is to say he devalued long-term thinking (which he's provably incapable of) and cared only about looking good in the short term. Almost every move he made related to the economy was about improving short term numbers, regardless of their long term effect .. he even boasted about how "he wouldn't be there" when his contribution to the national debt (which was significant long before Covid) caused problems for the nation.
July 18, 20233 yr 34 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I don't broadly disagree that presidents have generally a minor effect on the economy in the near term and that policies often aren't actually felt until years later. Especially when legislation is written so that certain effects expire, such as tax breaks for wage earners from Trump's tax bill. Which is why acting like Trump was some economic wizard was always hilariously stupid. The main impact presidents have IMHO is in economic sentiment. MAGAs all thought the economy was awesome Jan 21 2017, and terrible Jan 21 2021. Likewise anti-Trumpers all thought Trump would tank the economy. The reality is that Trump was going to treat the economy the same way he runs his business .. that is to say he devalued long-term thinking (which he's provably incapable of) and cared only about looking good in the short term. Almost every move he made related to the economy was about improving short term numbers, regardless of their long term effect .. he even boasted about how "he wouldn't be there" when his contribution to the national debt (which was significant long before Covid) caused problems for the nation. When Republicans mention the debt I start to nod off. It's the flimsiest, most transparently bullsheet talking point they have. It's literally just math and if you only give an F about math when you're out of power then you don't really care at all. I also love it when the right makes the stupid "but what about Trump's economy before Covid" argument. Biden has had to deal with the aftermath of Covid. It's baked into his numbers too (inflation, supply problems, etc.) just like every other President has had to play the cards they were dealt. No one gives any of them a selective pass, but for some insane reason, Republicans only want Trump judged on 3 of his 4 years (and even those were objective disasters in 100 different ways).
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