August 4, 20233 yr 5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Wait til Biden gets us tangled up in ****, too, btw. Edit: (the country in Africa that closely resembles the N word, apparently too much so for the EMB) If it's anything like Trump's complete disaster in N word in 2017, it'll go largely ignored by you. https://abcnews.go.com/International/us-soldiers-killed-****-outgunned-left-hunt-isis/story?id=54909240 Quote Four Army special operations soldiers killed in action during an ambush in **** last October were part of a largely inexperienced and lightly-armed team outmatched by ISIS fighters who exploited bad decisions by U.S. commanders, families of the fallen soldiers and other sources briefed on the military investigation told ABC News. "The worst circumstances fell upon them and the team came apart. But that failure started well before the bullets started flying," agreed Derek Gannon, a former Green Beret with combat deployments in Iraq, who is now a military writer. "It was a complete and total command failure. They failed this team. Within a day, the Pentagon started forming a narrative to blame the team rather than the conditions they were forced into." And then of course, Trump cracked jokes about it because US soldiers dying is a solid punchline. https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/2018/09/11/trump-aides-on-tape-laugh-about-****-ambush-that-left-4-us-soldiers-dead/985181007/ Quote President Donald Trump drew laughs from some of his aides as he joked about what a "rough business” terrorism is while discussing an ambush in **** that left four U.S. soldiers dead last year, according to a covert recording released Monday. Trump made the comments during a closed-door meeting at the White House in the wake of the Oct. 4, 2017, attack on the U.S. special forces, who were advising local troops fighting Islamic extremists in the African nation. Former White House communications aide Omarosa Manigault Newman secretly recorded the conversation and provided a tape of it to MSNBC on Monday afternoon.
August 4, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Gannan said: You write a lot of nonsense, but to make the case that Marines shouldn't be defending our embassy in a war zone has to be one of the most mentally feeble posts I've ever read here. We had countless hearings about the lack or Marine presence at our embassy in Benghazi. I know it's before you were born but you should really read up on the attack on our embassy in Iran in the 70's before writing nonsense like this. The stereotype of the dimwitted ignorant Trump supporter who has no sense of history and lacks even a rudimentary understanding of the issues exists for a reason. Ive literally never said that. We evacuated our embassy in Ukraine when Russia invaded, and were told by Biden that they promised Ukraine theyd reopen it in the future. Meanwhile, Biden gives us the "no boots on the ground" promise. Fast forward to this week, and not only have their been leaks that informed us that there are absolutely boots on the ground, but that they are eligible for hazard pay which usually indicates combat. So Im just wondering whats up?
August 4, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Arent you kind of making my point? The fact that theyre just now eligible for this pay is precisely what makes me think it ISNT intended for the embassy. Thats been my point all along. Did they just now realize that Kiev is dangerous (for the embassy staff) or is this for the undetermined amount of our troops that are absolutely 'boots on the ground' and in harms way? Id honestly feel better if they said "yeah this is for our light security detail in Kiev, we just realized they needed this compensation" I think I added to my response while you were replying. The government moves slow, they did retro the pay back to 4/22. You really should look up what the phrase "boots on the ground” refers to.
August 4, 20233 yr Quote The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date certain of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal. And the Trump administration kept to the pact, reducing U.S. troop levels from about 13,000 to 2,500, even though the Taliban continued to attack Afghan government forces and welcomed al-Qaeda terrorists into the Taliban leadership. FACTS Quote Biden delayed the May 1 withdrawal date that he inherited. But ultimately his administration pushed ahead with a plan to withdraw by Aug. 31 FACT
August 4, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: If it's anything like Trump's complete disaster in N word in 2017, it'll go largely ignored by you. https://abcnews.go.com/International/us-soldiers-killed-****-outgunned-left-hunt-isis/story?id=54909240 And then of course, Trump cracked jokes about it because US soldiers dying is a solid punchline. https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/2018/09/11/trump-aides-on-tape-laugh-about-****-ambush-that-left-4-us-soldiers-dead/985181007/ We've maintained a presence at an air base there to fight ISIS, among others. Maybe if Obama didnt allow ISIS to create an entire country for themselves those marines would have never been there and we'd have no need for droning the entire middle east repeatedly.
August 4, 20233 yr 6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Arent you kind of making my point? The fact that theyre just now eligible for this pay is precisely what makes me think it ISNT intended for the embassy. Thats been my point all along. Did they just now realize that Kiev is dangerous (for the embassy staff) or is this for the undetermined amount of our troops that are absolutely 'boots on the ground' and in harms way? Id honestly feel better if they said "yeah this is for our light security detail in Kiev, we just realized they needed this compensation" From your own link, you inbred moron: The pay is retroactive to align with the State Department’s parallel decision to offer danger pay to employees in Ukraine in April 2022. The Pentagon has said a small number of U.S. troops are stationed at the American embassy in Kyiv, working as its security detail and accounting for billions of dollars of military equipment the U.S. is sending to Ukraine. A small U.S. special operations team working out of the embassy helps Ukrainian troops with intelligence operations and provides security for high-level visitors, but is not fighting alongside Ukrainian troops on the battlefield, ABC News reported in April.
August 4, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Toastrel said: FACTS FACT Not to mention, Trump literally pressed his Defense Department to push through the withdrawal before he left office. Thankfully, they're smarter than he is and realized they weren't ready.
August 4, 20233 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Ive literally never said that. We evacuated our embassy in Ukraine when Russia invaded, and were told by Biden that they promised Ukraine theyd reopen it in the future. Meanwhile, Biden gives us the "no boots on the ground" promise. Fast forward to this week, and not only have their been leaks that informed us that there are absolutely boots on the ground, but that they are eligible for hazard pay which usually indicates combat. So Im just wondering whats up? So you prefer our embassy folks be there without military escort? Is that your position, little tyke?
August 4, 20233 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: From your own link, you inbred moron: The pay is retroactive to align with the State Department’s parallel decision to offer danger pay to employees in Ukraine in April 2022. The Pentagon has said a small number of U.S. troops are stationed at the American embassy in Kyiv, working as its security detail and accounting for billions of dollars of military equipment the U.S. is sending to Ukraine. A small U.S. special operations team working out of the embassy helps Ukrainian troops with intelligence operations and provides security for high-level visitors, but is not fighting alongside Ukrainian troops on the battlefield, ABC News reported in April. So the excuse is "the govt moves slow".. .got it. Over a year to approve hazard pay. Interesting. Must be a helluva a process. But hey thanks to those leaks we know Biden lied and we've had CIA and Special Forces running around Ukraine for a year. Nice!
August 4, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Toastrel said: So you prefer our embassy folks be there without military escort? Is that your position, little tyke? You literally just quoted my post where I said the exact opposite. Put your readers on so you can follow along
August 4, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: We've maintained a presence at an air base there to fight ISIS, among others. Maybe if Obama didnt allow ISIS to create an entire country for themselves those marines would have never been there and we'd have no need for droning the entire middle east repeatedly. Ah, my mistake. I shouldn't have said you ignored Trump's incompetence when 4 soldiers died on his watch in a botched mission, I should have said you defended and deflected from Trump's incompetence when 4 soldiers died on his watch in a botched mission.
August 4, 20233 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: You literally just quoted my post where I said the exact opposite. Put your readers on so you can follow along Dealing with your idiocy, sonny. Which is it, you want boots on the ground protecting our embassy troops, or you don't? Pick one.
August 4, 20233 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: Ah, my mistake. I shouldn't have said you ignored Trump's incompetence when 4 soldiers died on his watch in a botched mission, I should have said you defended and deflected from Trump's incompetence when 4 soldiers died on his watch in a botched mission. Hey he was the Commander in Chief and unfortunately we had to put people at risk to fight terrorists. Its inevitably his responsibility, so youre right. I just wish this same logic extended to Biden. But its always Trumps fault when he screws up.
August 4, 20233 yr At this point, ChatGPT would be infinitely more likely to pass for a sentient human being than this trumpbot...
August 4, 20233 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Hey he was the Commander in Chief and unfortunately we had to put people at risk to fight terrorists. Its inevitably his responsibility, so youre right. I just wish this same logic extended to Biden. But its always Trumps fault when he screws up. Of course the same logic applies to everyone. Mistakes are made by all leaders. But you're applying them unevenly by ignoring Trump's damaging decisions and amplifying Biden's. At least with Biden, we got out of Afghanistan and won't be going back, which is obviously more important than problems with the withdrawal.
August 4, 20233 yr Is like to think that pentagon would have approved imminent danger pay sooner if all of their high level promotions weren’t being held up by some dbag, but it’s SOP. They were lucky they made it retro back as far as they did.
August 4, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Toastrel said: Dealing with your idiocy, sonny. Which is it, you want boots on the ground protecting our embassy troops, or you don't? Pick one. If they must bring our people back to the Embassy--Im not sure why, probably symbolism, but whatever--they deserve protection. But what I really want is a Commander in Chief that doesnt lie to our faces, and an added bonus if he knows what year it is but thats wishful thinking.
August 4, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: At this point, ChatGPT would be infinitely more likely to pass for a sentient human being than this trumpbot... Sounds like youre jealous that my posts are actually compelling and generate discussion. Sta zitta
August 4, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: But what I really want is a Commander in Chief that doesnt lie to our faces, A Trump supporter really said this
August 4, 20233 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: If they must bring our people back to the Embassy--Im not sure why, probably symbolism, but whatever--they deserve protection. But what I really want is a Commander in Chief that doesnt lie to our faces, and an added bonus if he knows what year it is but thats wishful thinking. Look at the little tyke, nearly answered the question. Come on sonny, you can do it. Do you want boots on the ground protecting US Embassy personnel? Yes or no?
August 4, 20233 yr 16 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Ive literally never said that. We evacuated our embassy in Ukraine when Russia invaded, and were told by Biden that they promised Ukraine theyd reopen it in the future. Meanwhile, Biden gives us the "no boots on the ground" promise. Fast forward to this week, and not only have their been leaks that informed us that there are absolutely boots on the ground, but that they are eligible for hazard pay which usually indicates combat. So Im just wondering whats up? Fast forward past all the reports that you ignored because your eyes resemble those of a chameleon? Just because you're an illiterate inbred moron from the state most well-known for rampant incest and pedo cops, doesn't mean the rest of us are. Biden admin considering sending US special operations forces to protect US embassy in Kyiv https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/23/politics/us-embassy-kyiv-special-operations-forces/index.html The Defense Department official said the weapons experts now in Ukraine have already conducted several inspections as part of the U.S. Defense attache in Ukraine and the U.S. Office of Defense Cooperation. U.S. Marines have been stationed at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv since it reopened in May, after closing at the start of the war in February. https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3714285-why-biden-is-sending-us-weapons-experts-into-ukraine/ These are not the first U.S. personnel to be sent to Ukraine. Ryder said the military has previously sent personnel to work at the Defense Attache Office inside the U.S. Embassy – where the inspectors are also currently located. Although the U.S. does not have any troops engaged in combat in Ukraine, the American military has sent over billions of dollars in aid and weaponry, including howitzers, Javelin missiles, Stinger anti-aircraft systems and drones. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/11/14/fact-check-us-military-personnel-ukraine-inspectors-security/8262293001/
August 4, 20233 yr 17 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Sounds like youre jealous that my posts are actually compelling and generate discussion. Sta zitta If by "generate discussion" you mean being incessantly mocked for having the IQ of a cucumber, then yes, you're quite adept at "generating discussion." Also nice to see your illiteracy isn't isolated to English.
August 4, 20233 yr 13 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Look at the little tyke, nearly answered the question. Come on sonny, you can do it. Do you want boots on the ground protecting US Embassy personnel? Yes or no? I literally just told you yes. 5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: If by "generate discussion" you mean being incessantly mocked for having the IQ of a cucumber, then yes, you're quite adept at "generating discussion." Also nice to see your illiteracy isn't isolated to English. Ill just respond to you in italian from now on so you can continue dazzling us with your intellect
August 4, 20233 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: I literally just told you yes. Ill just respond to you in italian from now on so you can continue dazzling us with your intellect You have to actually know how to speak it first.
August 4, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: You have to actually know how to speak it first. Lol oh? And where did I go wrong?
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