August 3, 20233 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Biden literally got people killed because he forgot Afghanistan was a real thing, but this photo?? The worst! Yeah, the Trump administration got soldiers killed in the field too. Didn't see you giving a sheet then. Meanwhile, yeah, obviously Trump's retarded ass saluting a communist general is the most embarrassing sheet I've ever seen.
August 3, 20233 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Biden literally got people killed because he forgot Afghanistan was a real thing, but this photo?? The worst! US soldiers killed in Afghanistan. Trump 45 Biden 13
August 3, 20233 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Jan 6th was an actual terrorist act, you unamerican dumb ass Imagine hating America as much as Mike
August 3, 20233 yr 6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Biden literally got people killed because he forgot Afghanistan was a real thing, but this photo?? The worst! You need to STFU. The Taliban holds most all the blame here. They were in breech of the agreement many times. Trump should have never dealt with terrorists. Things could be quite different today if he hadn't. Keep blaming Joe and every democrat in the nation though. That makes way more sense.
August 3, 20233 yr 5 minutes ago, DiPros said: You need to STFU. The Taliban holds most all the blame here. They were in breech of the agreement many times. Trump should have never dealt with terrorists. Things could be quite different today if he hadn't. Keep blaming Joe and every democrat in the nation though. That makes way more sense. Good point. I've never heard Mike or any of the Trumpers actually blame the Taliban for killing American soldiers. Only Biden. BDS is a hell of a drug.
August 3, 20233 yr 56 minutes ago, DiPros said: You need to STFU. The Taliban holds most all the blame here. They were in breech of the agreement many times. Trump should have never dealt with terrorists. Things could be quite different today if he hadn't. Keep blaming Joe and every democrat in the nation though. That makes way more sense. Lol the Taliban was running scared and the US controlled the entire country. There was no way of ending that war without dealing with the Taliban. Ask Joe Biden, he had to beg them to let us leave. I will absolutely blame Joe Biden because it was his direct failure and leaders should be held accountable, and not be allowed to blame the guy who left 16 months prior. The excuse-making for this guys failures knows no bounds, its embarrassing
August 3, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: Killed an Iranian General and they did absolutely nothing about it. Ended Obamas Syria nonsense, erased ISIS from the map, ended the Afghanistan permawar. Show me a single foreign relations F up as big as Bidens total Afghanistan withdrawal failure. Go ahead. I just did.
August 3, 20233 yr 53 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Good point. I've never heard Mike or any of the Trumpers actually blame the Taliban for killing American soldiers. Only Biden. BDS is a hell of a drug. Lol so delusional. Of course theyre to blame, thats why Trump handed Biden an entire country that we controlled and all he had to do was get us the F out and somehow he F'ed that up. What's even more hilarious is how all of you guys ish on the deal Trump negotiated. So why did Biden just proceed with that plan then??? Why didn't he postpone it, he had 16 months?? If it was so bad, shouldnt he havr changed it since hes so smart?
August 3, 20233 yr Hmmm Report Warns ISIS is "Resurging” in Syria After Trump Ordered a Partial Troop Withdrawal AUGUST 8, 2019 During that time period, U.S. forces in Syria fulfilled the Trump administration’s directive to partly withdraw from the country. Military officials told the inspector general’s office that "the reduction of U.S. forces has decreased the support available for Syrian partner forces at a time when their foces [sic] need more training and equipping to respond to the ISIS resurgence,” Principal Deputy Inspector General Glenn A. Fine wrote in the opening of the report. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/report-isis-resurging-syria-trump-troop-withdrawal/
August 3, 20233 yr 16 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Lol so delusional. Of course theyre to blame, thats why Trump released 5000 Taliban prisoners and then handed Biden an entire country that we controlled You're so F'ing stupid. And your deflections for the Taliban are noted.
August 3, 20233 yr 22 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: So why did Biden just proceed with that plan then??? Why didn't he postpone it, he had 16 months?? If it was so bad, shouldnt he havr changed it since hes so smart? Because if he didn’t follow through with the trump plan then the Taliban would have resumed attacks which would have lead to sending more troops and we would have been back to full scale combat ops again. As bad as the entire withdrawal process was by both of them, I have always given them both credit for at least pulling the plug on that waste of a war and ending it. The only person still bringing it up is you with your one sided BS. So yeah, just STFU already https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-middle-east-taliban-doha-e6f48507848aef2ee849154604aa11be
August 3, 20233 yr 19 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: Hmmm Report Warns ISIS is "Resurging” in Syria After Trump Ordered a Partial Troop Withdrawal AUGUST 8, 2019 During that time period, U.S. forces in Syria fulfilled the Trump administration’s directive to partly withdraw from the country. Military officials told the inspector general’s office that "the reduction of U.S. forces has decreased the support available for Syrian partner forces at a time when their foces [sic] need more training and equipping to respond to the ISIS resurgence,” Principal Deputy Inspector General Glenn A. Fine wrote in the opening of the report. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/report-isis-resurging-syria-trump-troop-withdrawal/ Lol that was 2019. What happened after that??
August 3, 20233 yr From the previously posted article. "In hindsight, though, said Curtis, the U.S. should not have entered the Doha talks "unless we were prepared to represent the Afghan government’s interests. It was an unfair negotiation, because nobody was looking out for the interests of the Afghan government.” Its almost like they the Afghan government was locked out of negotiations for their own country.
August 3, 20233 yr 14 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: You're so F'ing stupid. And your deflections for the Taliban are noted. 5000? Biden gave them the entire country and its whole population. 5k is a drop in the bucket This is enlightening though. Its never been clearer how absolute phony liberals are when it comes to war. You guys love war, youre the new neocons.
August 3, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: 5000? Biden gave them the entire country and its whole population. 5k is a drop in the bucket When you leave a country, their determination is left to them. That's their problem. Not ours. 5K soldiers before leaving though? That put our men in danger while pulling out. Face it, Trump F'd up on that one.
August 3, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: When you leave a country, their determination is left to them. That's their problem. Not ours. 5K soldiers before leaving though? That put our men in danger while pulling out. Face it, Trump F'd up on that one. He should have just executed them I guess. What should he have done? What happened is that Biden was lazy and his intelligence was totally wrong. They thought theyd have months to leave and instead had hours. He was asleep at the wheel for 16 months. In all that time he could have corrected all of these mistakes that he can now point out so easily. But instead of doing anything, when we literally controlled the entire country, he did nothing and it blew up in his face Rather than take accountability for that, or the subsequent random innocent civilians who died, he blamed the guy who used to do the job over a year ago. Total failure of leadership from the guy who was supposed to the refined statesman who cleaned up our act. He was and is clueless.
August 3, 20233 yr So back out of an agreement while we controlled a country? Is that it? I can't, but I will try again. THE TALIBAN is to blame and Trump should have NEVER negotiated with terrorists. May 19, 2020 — In releasing its quarterly report on Afghanistan, the DOD inspector general’s office says the U.S. cut troop levels in Afghanistan by more than 4,000, even though "the Taliban escalated violence further after signing the agreement.” "U.S. officials stated the Taliban must reduce violence as a necessary condition for continued U.S. reduction in forces and that remaining high levels of violence could jeopardize the U.S.-Taliban agreement,” according to the report, which covered activity from Jan. 1, 2020, to March 31, 2020. "Even still, the United States began to reduce its forces in Afghanistan from roughly 13,000 to 8,600.” Aug. 18, 2020 — In releasing a report that covered activity in Afghanistan from April 1, 2020, to June 30, 2020, the Defense Department inspector general’s office says, "The Taliban did not appear to uphold its commitment to distance itself from terrorist organizations in Afghanistan. UN and U.S. officials reported that the Taliban continued to support al-Qaeda, and conducted joint attacks with al-Qaeda members against Afghan National Defense and Security Forces.” Sept. 3, 2020 — Afghanistan releases the final 400 Taliban prisoners, as required under the U.S.-Taliban agreement, clearing the way for intra-Afghan peace talks to begin. Sept. 12, 2020 — After seven months of delays, Afghanistan government officials and Taliban representatives meet in Qatar for peace talks. The U.S.-Taliban agreement called for the first peace talks to begin on March 10. Sept. 16, 2020 — The Taliban continued attacks on government forces. The Voice of America reported that "Taliban attacks in three provinces across northern Afghanistan since Tuesday killed at least 17 people, including six civilians, and wounded scores of others even as a Taliban political team was negotiating peace with Afghan government representatives in Doha, Qatar.” Sept. 18, 2020 — At a press conference, Trump says, "We’re dealing very well with the Taliban. They’re very tough, they’re very smart, they’re very sharp. But, you know, it’s been 19 years, and even they are tired of fighting, in all fairness.” Nov. 16, 2020 — Congressional Republicans, responding to news reports that the Trump administration will rapidly reduce forces in Afghanistan, warn of what Sen. Marco Rubio calls "a Saigon-type of situation” in Afghanistan. "A rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan now would hurt our allies and delight the people who wish us harm,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says. Nov. 17, 2020 — Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller formally announces that the U.S. will reduce U.S. forces in Afghanistan to 2,500 by Jan. 15, 2021. On the same day, the Defense Department IG’s office released a report for the quarter ending Sept. 30, 2020, that said the peace negotiations between the Afghan government and Taliban representatives had stalled and violence increased. "At the same time, the Taliban increased its attacks against Afghan forces, leading to ‘distressingly high’ levels of violence that could threaten the peace agreement,” the report said. Dec. 2, 2020 — After past false starts, Afghan and Taliban negotiators agree on a framework to govern peace negotiations. "At the same time, the Taliban continued its ‘fight and talk’ strategy, increasing violence across the country to increase its leverage with the Afghan government in negotiations,” the Defense Department IG’s office said a quarterly report covering this period. The IG report also continued to warn that the Taliban was apparently violating the withdrawal agreement. "This withdrawal is contingent on the Taliban abiding by its commitments under the agreement, which include not allowing terrorists to use Afghan soil to threaten the United States and its allies,” the report said. "However, it was unclear whether the Taliban was in compliance with the agreement, as members of al-Qaeda were integrated into the Taliban’s leadership and command structure.” Afghanistan’s First Vice President Amrullah Saleh tells the BBC that the Trump administration made too many concessions to the Taliban. "I am telling [the United States] as a friend and as an ally that trusting the Taliban without putting in a verification mechanism is going to be a fatal mistake,” Saleh says, adding that Afghanistan leaders warned the U.S. that "violence will spike” as the 5,000 Taliban prisoners were released. "Violence has spiked,” he added. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/
August 3, 20233 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: He should have just executed them I guess. What should he have done? Are you serious? He should have not released them until we were out of the country.
August 3, 20233 yr 19 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Lol that was 2019. What happened after that?? Glad you asked. I wonder if Trumper didn't pull out troops that they would be doing this? ISIS steps up attacks in northeast Syria. 9 Hours ag The war monitor stated that this incident occurred amidst a significant escalation of activity by ISIS CELLS. https://www.kurdistan24.net/en/story/32143-ISIS-steps-up-attacks-in-northeast-Syria
August 3, 20233 yr Ef'ing over the Kurds was a bigger screw-up than Afghanistan. The Kurds were one of our few reliable allies in the middle east. Trump quite literally killed them.
August 3, 20233 yr 3 hours ago, Mike31mt said: erased ISIS from the map Other than the fact that Trump didn't do this, sure, yeah, I can see your point.
August 3, 20233 yr 2 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Lol the Taliban was running scared and the US controlled the entire country. There was no way of ending that war without dealing with the Taliban. Imagine putting these two sentences one right after the other and not thinking twice about it.
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