August 11, 20233 yr 11 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Dems love sending loads of cash to Iran What part of, it’s not American money, don’t you understand?
August 11, 20233 yr 10 hours ago, Procus said: No, that was not the Mullah's money. That money belonged to the country of Iran which was hijacked by the Mullahs. These suckers will pocket the money. Is that really too difficult for you to understand? When did I say it’s was the Mullahs money?
August 11, 20233 yr Biden's clean energy speech was fun, he roasted Trump and Boebert. Quote "What Arcosa is doing here is part of much broader clean energy manufacturing that’s going to happen in big cities and rural communities,” Biden said. "Well, like in Colorado where CS Wind broke ground on what will be the world’s largest wind tower manufacturing plant,” he added, referring to the South Korea-based company which recently announced it would hire about 850 new workers. "And coincidentally, CS Wind is Congresswoman Lauren Boebert—you know, the very quiet Republican lady—it’s in her district,” Biden said. He said that Boebert, "along with every other Republican voted against this bill, and it’s making all this possible, and she railed against its passage.” "But that’s OK,” Biden added, "She’s welcoming it now.” As for Donnie F-Face, President Biden leaned in to the mic at one point and said softly about windmills, "They don't cause cancer.":
August 11, 20233 yr 9 hours ago, Procus said: Again - who is "Iran"? I think most fair minded people would agree that the mullah regime is illegitimate at this stage. Why would anybody release that money to a bunch of criminals? That money should be held in trust for a legitimate regime. The money was released to the government of Qatar, they will control how it is spent.
August 11, 20233 yr 13 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Trumpbots: "Dear Leader authorized our military to kill a high ranking military official in Iran, isn't he so dreamy?" Also trumpbots: "How dare that MF'ing Sleepy Joe Biden deploy our military to protect the US Embassy in Ukraine!?! This is a disgusting and heinous act of war!" Totally the same with no differences at all! Another scintillating display of logic
August 11, 20233 yr 12 hours ago, VanHammersly said: They’ve been aggressively pursuing them since Trump tore up the deal. Thank God Obama’s deal took almost all their enriched Uranium or they would’ve had one by now. But it’s only a matter of time and thanks to Trump and the dumbest foreign policy decision in history there’s no way to negotiate a new one. They've been aggressively pursuing them the entire time, deal or no deal. Its been 5 years, no nuke. I guess this is just your way of locking in the blame so in 30 years it will still be Trumps fault.
August 11, 20233 yr 3 hours ago, Mike31mt said: *unintelligible West Virginian grunts* Sucks for you that Biden is playing this the right way by limiting risk to our own personnel while supporting Ukraine in curb-stomping Putin.
August 11, 20233 yr 5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Sucks for you that Biden is playing this the right way by limiting risk to our own personal while supporting Ukraine in curb-stomping Putin. Trump took out a general in Syria. We had no troops fighting there and he was bailing us out of Obamas mess Biden promised no boots on the ground and now there are boots on the ground. Youre welcome for spelling that out for you. Do you support Bidens request for another $40B to Ukraine?
August 11, 20233 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Trump took out a general in Syria. We had no troops fighting there and he was bailing us out of Obamas mess Biden promised no boots on the ground and now there are boots on the ground. Youre welcome for spelling that out for you. Do you support Bidens request for another $40B to Ukraine? Wrong again Mikhail, Biden is protecting American lives by securing the embassy you Putin-loving commie. I know you want nothing more than another Benghazi to happen, but the rest of us never want to see that happen again. And yes I support giving aid to Ukraine as long as we keep getting results. Russia is ultra aggressive and one of our biggest enemies. It's money well spent if it means Putin keeps getting his ass handed to him.
August 11, 20233 yr Amazing how anti-military the new and improved GOP has become. Suddenly defense spending is bad, protecting embassy personnel is bad, protecting allies is bad.
August 11, 20233 yr 15 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Wrong again Mikhail, Biden is protecting American lives by securing the embassy you Putin-loving commie. I know you want nothing more than another Benghazi to happen, but the rest of us never want to see that happen again. And yes I support giving aid to Ukraine as long as we keep getting results. Russia is ultra aggressive and one of our biggest enemies. It's money well spent if it means Putin keeps getting his ass handed to him. So the CIA and Special Forces personnel we have over there, theyre all just protecting the embassy? Are they forming a human chain around it or what? So you support another $40B. Is there a limit? How about a trillion? Still worth it?
August 11, 20233 yr 14 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Amazing how anti-military the new and improved GOP has become. Suddenly defense spending is bad, protecting embassy personnel is bad, protecting allies is bad. Im an independent and have been anti perma-war since George Bush. Its cool that the Dems are the new neocon warmongers though.
August 11, 20233 yr 9 hours ago, VanHammersly said: They were allowing inspections under the deal, moron. They’re not anymore because the deal blew up. Again, Trump gave them a nuke, plain and simple, and we got absolutely nothing in return. It’s impossible to overstate how stupid it was. https://jcpa.org/article/inspections-nuclear-agreement/ Inspections: The Weak Link in a Nuclear Agreement with Iran
August 11, 20233 yr 29 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: They've been aggressively pursuing them the entire time, deal or no deal. The inspections that took place during the deal found the exact opposite. I know, I know, that can't be because 'black man bad' and feelings. 32 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Its been 5 years, no nuke. I guess this is just your way of locking in the blame so in 30 years it will still be Trumps fault. Like I've said before, give it time. Thankfully, Obama's deal took 98% of their enriched uranium. And, yes, obviously the guy who tore up the deal, lied about renegotiating a better deal and broke any chance and a positive resolution is at fault here.
August 11, 20233 yr 10 minutes ago, Procus said: https://jcpa.org/article/inspections-nuclear-agreement/ Inspections: The Weak Link in a Nuclear Agreement with Iran That article's from before the deal was even complete, so it's completely speculative. And right off the bat, this part: Quote Rather than cut deeply into Iran’s stocks of enriched uranium or drastically limit the number and speed of its gas centrifuge machines, these proposals also suggest that an unusually robust inspection system can play a significant role in assuring that Tehran will have a difficult time breaking out of any of future agreement. is just flat out wrong. They took 98% of their enriched uranium in the final deal. Stop trying to confirm your bias and accept that you were lied to by the right wing media when the deal happened because 'black man bad'.
August 11, 20233 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: So the CIA and Special Forces personnel we have over there, theyre all just protecting the embassy? Are they forming a human chain around it or what? Yes, you uninformed cousin-F'ing moron, we've got CIA in pretty much every country we have an embassy in. Once again showing you are one of the dumbest people to have ever made a single post in CVON. As for special forces, it's in an active warzone, so better to have them to secure the embassy and not need them, rather than need them and not have them. Once again, we had former SEALs, Delta Force, and Army Rangers trying to fight back the insurgents in Benghazi and we STILL lost two of them after the ambassador was killed. Quote So you support another $40B. Is there a limit? How about a trillion? Still worth it? Don't remind me of that banger you had months ago... "We've already sent them trillions! Ok so maybe hundreds of billions! Ok, so I was wrong, but it's still way too much!"
August 11, 20233 yr 18 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Im an independent and have been anti perma-war since George Bush. Its cool that the Dems are the new neocon warmongers though. Do you just sit down and think, "What ridiculous word salad can I throw out now?"
August 11, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said: The inspections that took place during the deal found the exact opposite. I know, I know, that can't be because 'black man bad' and feelings. Like I've said before, give it time. Thankfully, Obama's deal took 98% of their enriched uranium. And, yes, obviously the guy who tore up the deal, lied about renegotiating a better deal and broke any chance and a positive resolution is at fault here. We should trust the Iranian Government, they always hold up their end of the bargain
August 11, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yes, you uninformed cousin-F'ing moron, we've got CIA in pretty much every country we have an embassy in. Once again showing you are one of the dumbest people to have ever made a single post in CVON. As for special forces, it's in an active warzone, so better to have them to secure the embassy and not need them, rather than need them and not have them. Once again, we had former SEALs, Delta Force, and Army Rangers trying to fight back the insurgents in Benghazi and we STILL lost two of them after the ambassador was killed. Don't remind me of that banger you had months ago... "We've already sent them trillions! Ok so maybe hundreds of billions! Ok, so I was wrong, but it's still way too much!" Oh so the leak was no big deal, we have CIA and Special Forces everywhere and Im sure they just forgot to announce all of that after evacuating the Ukrainian embassy. And now here you are, admitting that boots are on the ground but its no problem. Just as predicted.
August 11, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said: Mike's still on his WW3 is happening in secret kick. Yes because if theres one thing history has taught us, engaging in never ending proxy wars is totally without risk. How did we get involved in those world wars, anyway?
August 11, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, Toastrel said: Do you just sit down and think, "What ridiculous word salad can I throw out now?" The truth hurts, doesnt it, old man?
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