August 15, 20232 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Awww... Taking the L so soon? I honestly didn't expect you to basically concede that you were once again completely uniformed on a topic you decided to weigh in on because you were born and raised in a state more known for incest than a proper education system. Bahaha you so desperately want out of this conversation. Its incredible that you used to pretend to be a libertarian when deep down you were a far left ish poster at heart Public services isnt socialism. Disaster relief isnt socialism. Sorry Bernie Bros, that stupid idea you learned about in high school really is dumb and belongs in the dust bins of history.
August 15, 20232 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Bahaha you so desperately want out of this conversation. Its incredible that you used to pretend to be a libertarian when deep down you were a far left ish poster at heart Public services isnt socialism. Disaster relief isnt socialism. Sorry Bernie Bros, that stupid idea you learned about in high school really is dumb and belongs in the dust bins of history. Calling me a Bernie bro because I'm mocking trumpbots for crying about direct payments from the federal govt not being enough.
August 15, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Why the F are you dancing around this? It's so weird. I'm not being cagey, I just can't possibly understand why someone would pretend that direct payments from the feds aren't socialism. Dancing around what? Google the definition of socialism. Is that hard to do? Why are you asking me when its publicly available information Public services and disaster relief are not socialism. Period.
August 15, 20232 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Calling me a Bernie bro because I'm mocking trumpbots for crying about direct payments from the federal govt not being enough. Im calling you a Bernie Bro because youre acting like one. If you can't see the optics are embarrassing thats on you. $700 is hilarious.
August 15, 20232 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Im calling you a Bernie Bro because youre acting like one. If you can't see the optics are embarrassing thats on you. $700 is hilarious. Oh right, Bernie bros are well known to mock others for being socialists. I forgot about that. My bad, Mike.
August 15, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Public services and disaster relief are not socialism. Period.
August 15, 20232 yr FWIW What Are Public Services? (Definition and 23 Examples) | Indeed.com ChatGPT The public sector can be an aspect of socialism, but it is not limited to it. The public sector refers to the part of the economy that is controlled and owned by the government, and it can include things like public schools, roads, and hospitals. Socialism, on the other hand, is a political and economic ideology that advocates for the collective ownership and control of the means of production and distribution of goods and services. In a socialist society, the public sector would likely play a larger role in the economy and society as a whole, but it is not the only aspect of socialism.
August 15, 20232 yr 26 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Oh right, Bernie bros are well known to mock others for being socialists. I forgot about that. My bad, Mike. Its not socialism, only a Bernie Bro would think it is. Hence why you're a Bernie Bro.
August 15, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Its not socialism, only a Bernie Bro would think it is. Hence why you're a Bernie Bro.
August 15, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: FWIW What Are Public Services? (Definition and 23 Examples) | Indeed.com ChatGPT The public sector can be an aspect of socialism, but it is not limited to it. The public sector refers to the part of the economy that is controlled and owned by the government, and it can include things like public schools, roads, and hospitals. Socialism, on the other hand, is a political and economic ideology that advocates for the collective ownership and control of the means of production and distribution of goods and services. In a socialist society, the public sector would likely play a larger role in the economy and society as a whole, but it is not the only aspect of socialism. Its almost like Bernie Bros want to extend the umbrella of socialism to include literally everything so that their stupid infantile view of the world is justified. Paying taxes earned through capitalism for public goods is not the government controlling the means of production. It just isnt. And thats not what socialism is about and they all know it
August 15, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: What doesnt make sense is you mocking someone for thinking $700 in disaster relief is a joke by referring to it as "socialism," just because the govt pooled together some tax money and sent a fraction of it back to taxpayers instead of Ukraine.
August 15, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Its almost like Bernie Bros want to extend the umbrella of socialism to include literally everything so that their stupid infantile view of the world is justified. Paying taxes earned through capitalism for public goods is not the government controlling the means of production. It just isnt. And thats not what socialism is about and they all know it That's communism, more so than socialism.
August 15, 20232 yr 45 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Lmao you can try if you want to, Booger. I didnt know you were a Bernie Bro. Does your wifes boyfriend know about this?
August 15, 20232 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: What doesnt make sense is anything I've ever said on any topic because I don't actually know what I'm talking about. fyp
August 15, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: That's communism, more so than socialism. Communism would be if the govt owned the means of production, instead of just controlling it. Neither applies here because we're talking disaster relief and not economic theory or basically any means of production.
August 15, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Communism would be if the govt owned the means of production, instead of just controlling it. Neither applies here because we're talking disaster relief and not economic theory or basically any means of production. If they control the means of production, they are de facto owners of it. But now that you're willing to talk about it so openly for once, what about the covid stimulus payments, Mike? Was that socialism or nah? Bailouts for farmers? Protectionist policies born from a brand of populism that clearly favors the labor class? Not socialism because Trump did it and he was a fiscal conservative, amirite?
August 15, 20232 yr https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/13/donald-trump-wildfires-california-oregon-washington-robert-reich "He told us to stop giving money to people whose houses had burned down because he was so rageful that people in the state of California didn’t support him,” said former Department of Homeland Security chief of staff Miles Taylor.
August 15, 20232 yr It’s only socialism when ishlibs do it, MAGA morons don’t care when it benefits them. 😂😂😂
August 15, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: It’s only socialism when ishlibs do it, MAGA morons don’t care when it benefits them. 😂😂😂 States like WV are basically on welfare anyway with all the cash they beg for from the federal goverment.
August 15, 20232 yr wgb isn't a bernie bro.....but he may or may not be a member of the Yang Gang....jussayin'
August 15, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: wgb isn't a bernie bro.....but he may or may not be a member of the Yang Gang....jussayin' Yang was the guy who wanted to give everyone $1k a month just for funsies, if I recall. Yep, another moron who doesn't understand basic economic principles or incentive structures. What were the Romney supporters called? The Rebels? Regulators? RINOs?
August 15, 20232 yr 26 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yang was the guy who wanted to give everyone $1k a month just for funsies, That's not socialism
August 16, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: It’s only socialism when ishlibs do it, MAGA morons don’t care when it benefits them. 😂😂😂 I agree with this - especially the CARES Act which ignited the current inflation spiral we're in.
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