August 15, 20233 yr 26 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Oh right, Bernie bros are well known to mock others for being socialists. I forgot about that. My bad, Mike. Its not socialism, only a Bernie Bro would think it is. Hence why you're a Bernie Bro.
August 15, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Its not socialism, only a Bernie Bro would think it is. Hence why you're a Bernie Bro.
August 15, 20233 yr 14 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: FWIW What Are Public Services? (Definition and 23 Examples) | Indeed.com ChatGPT The public sector can be an aspect of socialism, but it is not limited to it. The public sector refers to the part of the economy that is controlled and owned by the government, and it can include things like public schools, roads, and hospitals. Socialism, on the other hand, is a political and economic ideology that advocates for the collective ownership and control of the means of production and distribution of goods and services. In a socialist society, the public sector would likely play a larger role in the economy and society as a whole, but it is not the only aspect of socialism. Its almost like Bernie Bros want to extend the umbrella of socialism to include literally everything so that their stupid infantile view of the world is justified. Paying taxes earned through capitalism for public goods is not the government controlling the means of production. It just isnt. And thats not what socialism is about and they all know it
August 15, 20233 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: What doesnt make sense is you mocking someone for thinking $700 in disaster relief is a joke by referring to it as "socialism," just because the govt pooled together some tax money and sent a fraction of it back to taxpayers instead of Ukraine.
August 15, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Its almost like Bernie Bros want to extend the umbrella of socialism to include literally everything so that their stupid infantile view of the world is justified. Paying taxes earned through capitalism for public goods is not the government controlling the means of production. It just isnt. And thats not what socialism is about and they all know it That's communism, more so than socialism.
August 15, 20233 yr 45 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Lmao you can try if you want to, Booger. I didnt know you were a Bernie Bro. Does your wifes boyfriend know about this?
August 15, 20233 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: What doesnt make sense is anything I've ever said on any topic because I don't actually know what I'm talking about. fyp
August 15, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: That's communism, more so than socialism. Communism would be if the govt owned the means of production, instead of just controlling it. Neither applies here because we're talking disaster relief and not economic theory or basically any means of production.
August 15, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Communism would be if the govt owned the means of production, instead of just controlling it. Neither applies here because we're talking disaster relief and not economic theory or basically any means of production. If they control the means of production, they are de facto owners of it. But now that you're willing to talk about it so openly for once, what about the covid stimulus payments, Mike? Was that socialism or nah? Bailouts for farmers? Protectionist policies born from a brand of populism that clearly favors the labor class? Not socialism because Trump did it and he was a fiscal conservative, amirite?
August 15, 20233 yr https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/13/donald-trump-wildfires-california-oregon-washington-robert-reich "He told us to stop giving money to people whose houses had burned down because he was so rageful that people in the state of California didn’t support him,” said former Department of Homeland Security chief of staff Miles Taylor.
August 15, 20233 yr It’s only socialism when ishlibs do it, MAGA morons don’t care when it benefits them. 😂😂😂
August 15, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: It’s only socialism when ishlibs do it, MAGA morons don’t care when it benefits them. 😂😂😂 States like WV are basically on welfare anyway with all the cash they beg for from the federal goverment.
August 15, 20233 yr wgb isn't a bernie bro.....but he may or may not be a member of the Yang Gang....jussayin'
August 15, 20233 yr 13 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: wgb isn't a bernie bro.....but he may or may not be a member of the Yang Gang....jussayin' Yang was the guy who wanted to give everyone $1k a month just for funsies, if I recall. Yep, another moron who doesn't understand basic economic principles or incentive structures. What were the Romney supporters called? The Rebels? Regulators? RINOs?
August 15, 20233 yr 26 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yang was the guy who wanted to give everyone $1k a month just for funsies, That's not socialism
August 16, 20233 yr 10 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: It’s only socialism when ishlibs do it, MAGA morons don’t care when it benefits them. 😂😂😂 I agree with this - especially the CARES Act which ignited the current inflation spiral we're in.
August 16, 20233 yr 11 hours ago, Procus said: I agree with this - especially the CARES Act which ignited the current inflation spiral we're in. Thankfully, direct payments from the government to citizens isn't socialism.
August 16, 20233 yr 11 hours ago, Procus said: I agree with this - especially the CARES Act which ignited the current inflation spiral we're in. I blame the recklessness in the way PPP money was handed out.
August 16, 20233 yr 11 hours ago, Procus said: 😂😂😂 Requiring proof of the allegations you make against someone else is now asinine… Add this to the dumbest cult on the planet file…
August 16, 20233 yr I love how the only defense the left can muster up for the $700 payments is "well Trump did this and Trump did that". Who gives a ish. We are talking about right now. Current. Today. $700 is a damn slap in the face. Meanwhile flying cargo planes full of cash to the Ukraine. Just take the effing L and call a spade a spade. Biden F'd this one up massively. Just accept it.
August 16, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Captain F said: I love how the only defense the left can muster up for the $700 payments is "well Trump did this and Trump did that". Who gives a ish. We are talking about right now. Current. Today. $700 is a damn slap in the face. Meanwhile flying cargo planes full of cash to the Ukraine. Just take the effing L and call a spade a spade. Biden F'd this one up massively. Just accept it. Also, Hawaii voted blue so he is obviously more obligated to aid them, right?
August 16, 20233 yr 9 minutes ago, Captain F said: I love how the only defense the left can muster up for the $700 payments is "well Trump did this and Trump did that". Who gives a ish. We are talking about right now. Current. Today. $700 is a damn slap in the face. Meanwhile flying cargo planes full of cash to the Ukraine. Just take the effing L and call a spade a spade. Biden F'd this one up massively. Just accept it. if the $700 per household was the only thing the federal government is doing, that would be insulting & worthy of criticism for sure.
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