March 20, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, GreenReaper said: I do understand that but the general 'feeling' is that crime is going up. I can't explain why people feel the way they do about crime, it's not like most of the 'news' outlets lean left so they are just not doing a good job of selling the reports. Do you think, and I'm just spitballing here, that it might have something to do with Fox news and it's crazier cousins pumping out endless political propaganda about how the world is going to hell because Trump isn't president? It would be grand to get back to a time where everybody didn't believe that the world was on razor's edge and that every election was an existential threat to the nation.
March 20, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, GreenReaper said: Yes it does but usually when it's something that makes people fear the republican NSDAP's otherwise it's 'mostly peaceful protests'. Right wing viewers respond much more strongly to fear mongering than left.
March 20, 20241 yr 53 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: Yeah, keep pretending there isn't any difference between now and 2014. There's far less than you're apparently willing to admit. The only real thing that's changed is that instead of Romney as your most recent standard bearer you have a scumbag con artist who's duped 60% of Republican voters into think he actually cares about them and that he's the only one who can fix things. That last part, the "I'm the strong guy and the only one who can fix things," is a little too on the Germany 1933 nose.
March 20, 20241 yr 22 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Right wing viewers respond much more strongly to fear mongering than left. yep...i have a low-info trumper coworker who likes to go on & on about those scary immigrants. we're in f'n nepa. what border are they crossing to get to nepa? her town has 535 residents & 500 are white. not to mention it's probably worse than the countries immigrants are coming from.
March 20, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, Mike31mt said: I'm imagining Milley on the phone with the Afghans, as we're ditching all of our stuff and getting the hell out of there while the Taliban take over at warp speed: "this is all your ish now good luck bye!" So you are not happy with the Trump Afghan Withdrawal plan? How shocking.
March 20, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, VanHammersly said: 50 troops lost in 3 years vs 13. Anyone that's not retarded will take that improvement. Epic levels of derangement on display with this propaganda math. In the last three years of Trump's presidency, there was an active conflict. We left in August 2021. You're comparing 3 years where we had troops all over the country to 8 months followed by a botched withdrawal. Trump = 50 deaths/3 years = 17 deaths/year Biden = 13 deaths/0.75 years = 17 deaths/year Anyone that's not retarded huh
March 20, 20241 yr 24 minutes ago, Toastrel said: So you are not happy with the Trump Afghan Withdrawal plan? How shocking. Plan? Biden didn't know anything about a plan. He was in a dementia fog until two weeks before the deadline and still lied and said Afghanistan wouldn't fall.
March 20, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Epic levels of derangement on display with this propaganda math. In the last three years of Trump's presidency, there was an active conflict. We left in August 2021. You're comparing 3 years where we had troops all over the country to 8 months followed by a botched withdrawal. Trump = 50 deaths/3 years = 17 deaths/year Biden = 13 deaths/0.75 years = 17 deaths/year Anyone that's not retarded huh Well, yes, obviously now that we're out of Afghanistan we're not in an active conflict and can't lose troops in said conflict. What a weird way to say 'thanks Biden'
March 20, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Plan? Biden didn't know anything about a plan. He was in a dementia fog until two weeks before the deadline and still lied and said Afghanistan wouldn't fall. Yes, the agreement Trump made with the Taliban. The one you want to pretend was not his. For the record, both Trump and Biden royally Fed this up. The military advised BOTH that the plan sucked and would cause problems. Looks like they were right. The Trump plan sucked, and the Biden implementation sucked just as bad. See how easy it is?
March 20, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, toolg said: F your feelings. Well thought out response as expected. As I said earlier, not my feelings.
March 20, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Do you think, and I'm just spitballing here, that it might have something to do with Fox news and it's crazier cousins pumping out endless political propaganda about how the world is going to hell because Trump isn't president? It would be grand to get back to a time where everybody didn't believe that the world was on razor's edge and that every election was an existential threat to the nation. I think Fox News, Newsmax, etc. targets one group and CNN, CNBC, etc. target the other. I don't think there are a lot on the left that watch Fox for it's honesty and vice versa. A percentage in each group believe what 'their' favorite news outlet has to say and then there are the (hopefully) middle majority that understand that things aren't as bad, or as good, as the 'news' outlets want you to believe. The world isn't going to go to hell in the next 4 years because one or the other is president. The world didn't end when Trump was president and it didn't end when Biden was president and it's not likely to end in the next 4 years due to either of these clowns. It would be nice to get back to a time you mentioned but it's not happening in the short term as both sides employ the same fear tactics.
March 20, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: There's far less than you're apparently willing to admit. The only real thing that's changed is that instead of Romney as your most recent standard bearer you have a scumbag con artist who's duped 60% of Republican voters into think he actually cares about them and that he's the only one who can fix things. That last part, the "I'm the strong guy and the only one who can fix things," is a little too on the Germany 1933 nose. And Biden who thinks he's the only one who can save the world from Trump is so much different I suppose.
March 20, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, GreenReaper said: And Biden who thinks he's the only one who can save the world from Trump is so much different I suppose. Biden has never said that. Literally nobody has said that Biden is the only candidate who can beat Trump. What Biden is, is the sitting president and presumptive nominee.
March 20, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah the "Trump will end our democracy" schtick isn't fear mongering at all Change 10 more bedpans and get back to us
March 20, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said: Well, yes, obviously now that we're out of Afghanistan we're not in an active conflict and can't lose troops in said conflict. What a weird way to say 'thanks Biden' If not for Trump who knows how many deaths there would be now. We'd certainly still be there, that's for sure. Biden would be so much closer to his foreign conflict continental grand slam.
March 20, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah the "Trump will end our democracy" schtick isn't fear mongering at all "Donald Trump says he will be a 'dictator' only on 'day one.' Then he'll focus on drilling.” But only on day one. He will piece the Constitution back together after he uses it to wipe his 🫏. 😂😂😂😂😂
March 21, 20241 yr 19 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Biden has never said that. Literally nobody has said that Biden is the only candidate who can beat Trump. What Biden is, is the sitting president and presumptive nominee. "If Trump wasn't running, I'm not sure I'd be running,” Biden said at a campaign fundraiser in the Boston area. "But we cannot let him win.” Not sure what this implies then.
March 21, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: "If Trump wasn't running, I'm not sure I'd be running,” Biden said at a campaign fundraiser in the Boston area. "But we cannot let him win.” Not sure what this implies then. It implies nothing. He already beat Trump and he is the incumbent. Saying as much is not the same as saying "I'm the only guy who can beat Trump", but a smart guy like you already knew that, right?
March 21, 20241 yr 33 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: "If Trump wasn't running, I'm not sure I'd be running,” Biden said at a campaign fundraiser in the Boston area. "But we cannot let him win.” Not sure what this implies then. The incumbent stepping down would result in a potentially messy nomination process. It's less predictable. Interpreting the above as "I'm the only one who can beat Trump" is a hell of a logical leap.
March 21, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The incumbent stepping down would result in a potentially messy nomination process. It's less predictable. Interpreting the above as "I'm the only one who can beat Trump" is a hell of a logical leap. That would be true whether or not Trump was running. It has nothing to do with what he said.
March 21, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The incumbent stepping down would result in a potentially messy nomination process. It's less predictable. Interpreting the above as "I'm the only one who can beat Trump" is a hell of a logical leap. How does what Trump does have any bearing on what Biden does? Wouldn't it be a mess if he stepped down either way?
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