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President Joseph R. Biden, Jr.

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1 hour ago, Procus said:

Statements of fact are not opinions

He literally stated it was his opinion that Joe was involved. But that he never directly witnessed a connection.

Even if he had, which he did not, "eyewitness" testimony of a single person who has motives to lie about it is not much. 

You are ****e even as a fake lawyer.

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32 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

He literally stated it was his opinion that Joe was involved. But that he never directly witnessed a connection.

Even if he had, which he did not, "eyewitness" testimony of a single person who has motives to lie about it is not much. 

You are ****e even as a fake lawyer.

See my thumb, boy you're dumb

https://abcnews.go.com/US/biden-critic-worked-hunter-tells-lawmakers-joe-biden/story?id=107195062

"Biden was more than a participant in and beneficiary of his family's business; he was an enabler, despite being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk/2024/02/13/who-is-tony-bobulinski-hunter-bidens-business-partner-testifies-in-biden-impeachment-inquiry/?sh=302cf1506d42

"In October 2020, Bobulinski came forward at a press conference claiming to have "emails, WhatsApp chats, agreements, documents and other evidence” that showed then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden profited off his son’s business ventures in China, allegedly cashing in on his family name and status as the former vice president."

 

24 minutes ago, Procus said:

See my thumb, boy you're dumb

https://abcnews.go.com/US/biden-critic-worked-hunter-tells-lawmakers-joe-biden/story?id=107195062

"Biden was more than a participant in and beneficiary of his family's business; he was an enabler, despite being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk/2024/02/13/who-is-tony-bobulinski-hunter-bidens-business-partner-testifies-in-biden-impeachment-inquiry/?sh=302cf1506d42

"In October 2020, Bobulinski came forward at a press conference claiming to have "emails, WhatsApp chats, agreements, documents and other evidence” that showed then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden profited off his son’s business ventures in China, allegedly cashing in on his family name and status as the former vice president."

 

I sure hope Biden gets impeached for this info, oh wait. 

56 minutes ago, Procus said:

In October 2020, Bobulinski came forward at a press conference claiming to have "emails, WhatsApp chats, agreements, documents and other evidence” that showed then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden profited off his son’s business ventures in China,

Yeah? And how'd that work out for him? I mean, such irrefutable evidence ought to move the needle, amirite?

15 hours ago, Procus said:

See my thumb, boy you're dumb

https://abcnews.go.com/US/biden-critic-worked-hunter-tells-lawmakers-joe-biden/story?id=107195062

"Biden was more than a participant in and beneficiary of his family's business; he was an enabler, despite being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk/2024/02/13/who-is-tony-bobulinski-hunter-bidens-business-partner-testifies-in-biden-impeachment-inquiry/?sh=302cf1506d42

"In October 2020, Bobulinski came forward at a press conference claiming to have "emails, WhatsApp chats, agreements, documents and other evidence” that showed then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden profited off his son’s business ventures in China, allegedly cashing in on his family name and status as the former vice president."

 

And yet, to date, he has not provided any direct evidence of wrongdoing by Joe.

Zero. 

When pressed, he had exactly two interactions with Joe Biden and in neither case was anything untoward discussed.

And every other person who was involved in the deals Bobulinski was is on record calling him a liar. 

This is not "evidence," it's little more than hearsay. And hearsay that is not corroborated by any evidence and directly contradicted by other witnesses. 

"Lawyer" :roll:

Bidenomics strikes again. Bull Market confirmed. :towel:Biden brings stability to long term investors.  The BINO will destroy it.

 

 

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

And yet, to date, he has not provided any direct evidence of wrongdoing by Joe.

Zero. 

When pressed, he had exactly two interactions with Joe Biden and in neither case was anything untoward discussed.

And every other person who was involved in the deals Bobulinski was is on record calling him a liar. 

This is not "evidence," it's little more than hearsay. And hearsay that is not corroborated by any evidence and directly contradicted by other witnesses. 

"Lawyer" :roll:

You show how ignorant you are about the law. . .  again.

There are two types of evidence, direct and circumstantial.  His testimony is direct evidence.

Don't spout off about things you know nothing about.

19 hours ago, Procus said:

Statements of fact are not opinions

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29 minutes ago, Procus said:

You show how ignorant you are about the law. . .  again.

There are two types of evidence, direct and circumstantial.  His testimony is direct evidence.

Don't spout off about things you know nothing about.

So an impeachment should happen this week then 

Just now, DaEagles4Life said:

So an impeachment should happen this week then 

I didn't say that.  I personally am against impeachment.  It's an exercise in futility since there will never be a conviction.  And while Bobulinski's testimony is direct evidence, there can be contravening direct evidence as well.  Just don't say there isn't direct evidence of wrongdoing when there is.

I personally believe Biden is very corrupt and not qualified to serve due to corruption and both physical and mental limitations.  But this testimony needs to be corroborated with more to make a good case for impeachment.  He is, however, a good candidate for invocation of the 25th amendment.

:roll: Procus is the gift that keeps on giving

35 minutes ago, Procus said:

You show how ignorant you are about the law. . .  again.

There are two types of evidence, direct and circumstantial.  His testimony is direct evidence.

Don't spout off about things you know nothing about.

Again dope: he did not testify to ever witnessing wrongdoing by Joe. 

Literally nobody is disputing that Hunter and Jim were trading on the family name. 

But literally zero evidence has been presented by Bobulinski or otherwise that Joe Biden benefited from any of this personally, or that any of Hunter or Jim Biden's dealmakings impacted policy. 

Joe Biden had a 10 minute sit down with Bobulinski and talked about their families. That is what Bobulinski says.

The rest is his own opinions - which are not facts.

15 minutes ago, Procus said:

I didn't say that.  I personally am against impeachment.  It's an exercise in futility since there will never be a conviction.  And while Bobulinski's testimony is direct evidence, there can be contravening direct evidence as well.  Just don't say there isn't direct evidence of wrongdoing when there is.

I personally believe Biden is very corrupt and not qualified to serve due to corruption and both physical and mental limitations.  But this testimony needs to be corroborated with more to make a good case for impeachment.  He is, however, a good candidate for invocation of the 25th amendment.

Show me where Bobulinski testifies that he witnessed wrongdoing by Joe Biden. 

Go ahead.

Not where he talks about "the Biden family" in the abstract, or what Hunter and Jim were saying. 

Show any bit of direct evidence that Joe Biden committed a crime or even acted in a way that showed he was directly benefiting from Hunter and Jim's deals.

Notwithstanding the fact that Joe met Bobulinski when he was out of office as a private citizen, there was ZERO discussed about any deals. Joe and Bobulinski literally discussed their families, Joe thanked Bobulinski for his service, and that was the entirety of it.

The rest is speculation and conjecture by Bobulinski. 

18 hours ago, Procus said:

See my thumb, boy you're dumb

https://abcnews.go.com/US/biden-critic-worked-hunter-tells-lawmakers-joe-biden/story?id=107195062

"Biden was more than a participant in and beneficiary of his family's business; he was an enabler, despite being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk/2024/02/13/who-is-tony-bobulinski-hunter-bidens-business-partner-testifies-in-biden-impeachment-inquiry/?sh=302cf1506d42

"In October 2020, Bobulinski came forward at a press conference claiming to have "emails, WhatsApp chats, agreements, documents and other evidence” that showed then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden profited off his son’s business ventures in China, allegedly cashing in on his family name and status as the former vice president."

 

Did he lose the flash drive as well?

1 hour ago, Procus said:

You show how ignorant you are about the law. . .  again.

There are two types of evidence, direct and circumstantial.  His testimony is direct evidence.

Don't spout off about things you know nothing about.

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1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said:

 

Your categories are correct - but when speaking of direct evidence as John did, it's in the context of direct vs. circumstantial evidence in federal court.  Some state courts have different standards.

There is more than one manner of classifying types of evidence.

1 hour ago, Boogyman said:

Did he lose the flash drive as well?

No, he still has the drive to flash

https://www.businessinsider.nl/biden-accidentally-flashed-a-cue-card-telling-him-exactly-where-to-go-and-what-to-do-at-a-white-house-event/

Biden accidentally flashed a cue card telling him exactly where to go and what to do at a White House event

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Again dope: he did not testify to ever witnessing wrongdoing by Joe. 

Literally nobody is disputing that Hunter and Jim were trading on the family name. 

But literally zero evidence has been presented by Bobulinski or otherwise that Joe Biden benefited from any of this personally, or that any of Hunter or Jim Biden's dealmakings impacted policy. 

Joe Biden had a 10 minute sit down with Bobulinski and talked about their families. That is what Bobulinski says.

The rest is his own opinions - which are not facts.

Some stupid hard headed people like you believe what they want to believe.  You may not like the testimony, you may not believe it - but you're making ish up.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2860260/tony-bobulinski-testifies-joe-biden-participated-in-familys-chinese-business-deal/

Tony Bobulinski testifies Joe Biden participated in family’s Chinese business deal

https://oversight.house.gov/release/witnesses-confirm-joe-bidens-involvement-in-his-familys-influence-peddling/

3 minutes ago, Procus said:

Some stupid hard headed people like you believe what they want to believe.  You may not like the testimony, you may not believe it - but you're making ish up.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2860260/tony-bobulinski-testifies-joe-biden-participated-in-familys-chinese-business-deal/

Tony Bobulinski testifies Joe Biden participated in family’s Chinese business deal

Some stupid people like you read headlines from right-wing sources and ignore that the article itself dances around the truth: Bobulinski has not provided any firsthand direct evidence of Joe's actual involvement. 

This has been investigated for years - Bobulinski has been around since before the 2020 election - and zero paper trail has been uncovered connecting Joe to this, and the only thing Bobulinski has testified to that directly involves Joe is meeting with Joe and talking about family. 

Bobulinski got burned by Hunter - news flash: Hunter is kind of a crappy guy to do business with - and he's pissed. But he still can't connect Joe to anything directly.

Hunter and Jim traded on the Biden name, but there's no evidence that Joe ever sold anything.

There's way more evidence that Trump tried to extort Ukraine to get dirt on Joe using congressional approved dollars than any misdeeds by Joe, but keep laying your bets on Comer's witch hunt. 

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Some stupid people like you read headlines from right-wing sources and ignore that the article itself dances around the truth: Bobulinski has not provided any firsthand direct evidence of Joe's actual involvement. 

This has been investigated for years - Bobulinski has been around since before the 2020 election - and zero paper trail has been uncovered connecting Joe to this, and the only thing Bobulinski has testified to that directly involves Joe is meeting with Joe and talking about family. 

Bobulinski got burned by Hunter - news flash: Hunter is kind of a crappy guy to do business with - and he's pissed. But he still can't connect Joe to anything directly.

Hunter and Jim traded on the Biden name, but there's no evidence that Joe ever sold anything.

There's way more evidence that Trump tried to extort Ukraine to get dirt on Joe using congressional approved dollars than any misdeeds by Joe, but keep laying your bets on Comer's witch hunt. 

@Procus only sees what he wants to be true, dude is hilariously stupid. 

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Some stupid people like you read headlines from right-wing sources and ignore that the article itself dances around the truth: Bobulinski has not provided any firsthand direct evidence of Joe's actual involvement. 

This has been investigated for years - Bobulinski has been around since before the 2020 election - and zero paper trail has been uncovered connecting Joe to this, and the only thing Bobulinski has testified to that directly involves Joe is meeting with Joe and talking about family. 

Bobulinski got burned by Hunter - news flash: Hunter is kind of a crappy guy to do business with - and he's pissed. But he still can't connect Joe to anything directly.

Hunter and Jim traded on the Biden name, but there's no evidence that Joe ever sold anything.

There's way more evidence that Trump tried to extort Ukraine to get dirt on Joe using congressional approved dollars than any misdeeds by Joe, but keep laying your bets on Comer's witch hunt. 

Yah, just like bragging about getting that prosecutor in Ukraine fired, right?

1 minute ago, Procus said:

Yah, just like bragging about getting that prosecutor in Ukraine fired, right?

"B b b b bbbbbbut....."

Cool story, Slappy. When is the impeachment vote?

6 minutes ago, Procus said:

Yah, just like bragging about getting that prosecutor in Ukraine fired, right?

Do you mean the same prosecutor that just about the entire world and the anti-corruption crowd within Ukraine also wanted fired because of his refusal to prosecute corruption? 

13 minutes ago, Procus said:

Yah, just like bragging about getting that prosecutor in Ukraine fired, right?

 

4 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Do you mean the same prosecutor that just about the entire world and the anti-corruption crowd within Ukraine also wanted fired because of his refusal to prosecute corruption? 

Yup. 

In procus's mind a Democrat is always guilty, we just haven't found the evidence yet.

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