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37 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

 

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I've never read the books, but from what I've read online he had Celebrimbor and the elves fooled for a bit, right?

 

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yep, he fooled them into forging the three elven rings. if they stay somewhat canon, next season we should see something similar with the dwarves and/or men. 

 

Great show.  Loved it.  Had the feeling of The Fellowship of the Ring instead of The Hobbit.  The ending was great. 

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She could resist the flesh but, ultimately, she could not resist the power.

 

I’ll echo what the non-hypercritical have said. Great final episode. Def do not think it will be Gandalf and think it will be Saruman.  They hinted at his darkside a lot 

could very well be saruman, he should've been the 1st to arrive considering he was the leader of the istari. 

I think with all the focus on his connection with nature it could be Radagast also. I'd prefer if it was not a character seen before but I definitely don't think it's Gandalf.

3 hours ago, devpool said:

I think with all the focus on his connection with nature it could be Radagast also. I'd prefer if it was not a character seen before but I definitely don't think it's Gandalf.

agreed. was just taking an alternative guess. I def think there’s no chance it is Gandalf and think it would lead to way too much criticism if it was. 

we can all take guesses and i think the fact that there could be three different possibilities was the plan by the writers. there will be discussions and debates until its revealed who he actually is. 

 

the more i think about it though, the more i think it may be saruman. beyond being the first and the leader, remember that treebeard told merry about how he & saruman were close and that he used to walk amongst the trees and had a love for the forests. 

 

7 hours ago, homerpat said:

agreed. was just taking an alternative guess. I def think there’s no chance it is Gandalf and think it would lead to way too much criticism if it was. 

I think they have every intention of making this the backstory for Gandalf.  The quotes and the interactions with hobbits are meant to make fans beg for it to be Gandalf, timeline be damned.  But I do think they have left themselves an out clause in case the toxic nerds get too nasty.  They can pivot to a Blue Wizard rather easily if they feel the need.  But I don't think that a show that has given us the creation of Mount Doom and Morder, redefined mithril, getting ready to sunder continents and kingdoms, reimagined Galadriel, etc etc is going to clam up and chicken out and give us a friggin Blue Wizard.

14 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

we can all take guesses and i think the fact that there could be three different possibilities

 

Actually 4 because he could be a Blue Wizard.  I've seen more steam behind that theory than Saruman or Radagast.  Especially Saruman, who had active disdain for the silly little hobbits. 

3 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

Actually 4 because he could be a Blue Wizard.  I've seen more steam behind that theory than Saruman or Radagast.  Especially Saruman, who had active disdain for the silly little hobbits. 

maybe it will explain why he hates Hobbits

15 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

Actually 4 because he could be a Blue Wizard.  I've seen more steam behind that theory than Saruman or Radagast.  Especially Saruman, who had active disdain for the silly little hobbits. 

no

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Im excited to finally see tom bombadil getting any kind of mention outside of the books. 

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Early reviews on season 2 have not been positive 

29 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Early reviews on season 2 have not been positive 

They weren't for season 1 and then it really got going 1.5 eps in. Maybe season 2 will be much of the same. 

31 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Early reviews on season 2 have not been positive 

I liked s1 even if it was uneven at times. I hated that the producers were paying attention to the criticism that season 1 didn't move the plot fast enough.  I thought it was the opposite, they were going too fast and not letting it drip for flavor. Now the knives appear to be out that they are going too fast after all...

 

Meanwhile House of Dragon absolutely nothing happens ever and they call it a great drama?  I'm very confused with the double standard for these shows.

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They weren't for season 1 and then it really got going 1.5 eps in. Maybe season 2 will be much of the same. 

Yeah I enjoyed season 1 - I don't pay much attention to critic reviews anyway.  

People are really complaining about this season already? Why? I thought the 1st episode was a fine start to the season.

i've liked the 2nd season so far.

one thing i do wonder with the now two wizards is, are they gandalf and saruman, or are they the two blue wizards, alatar and pallando, who were sent to the east (rhun) by the valinor. 

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On 9/6/2024 at 10:07 AM, Alpha_TATEr said:

i've liked the 2nd season so far.

one thing i do wonder with the now two wizards is, are they gandalf and saruman, or are they the two blue wizards, alatar and pallando, who were sent to the east (rhun) by the valinor. 

Arondir/Isuldur plotline has gotten better so its really just Numenor dragging it down now. 75% of it is pretty good. It deserves its place in ME fiction, even if only as a nose bleedingly expensive fan fic.

Can someone give me 10,000 foot view of why I should give a crap about this Numenor plotline?  There's already enough going on with the "Stranger" and the Harfoots, Celebrimbor and Sauron (and now the dwarves), Elrond and Galadriel and the orcs, etc.  If they're gonna take 3 years to make each season, they need to trim some of the fat so us non-book reader nerds can keep up :lol: 

31 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Can someone give me 10,000 foot view of why I should give a crap about this Numenor plotline?  There's already enough going on with the "Stranger" and the Harfoots, Celebrimbor and Sauron (and now the dwarves), Elrond and Galadriel and the orcs, etc.  If they're gonna take 3 years to make each season, they need to trim some of the fat so us non-book reader nerds can keep up :lol: 

When the show was in concept phase the only thing we knew about was the Numenor plotline.  They have basically compressed all the major events of the 2nd age into simultaneous happenings so they do have 5 seasons worth of material with Numenor arguably the most important.

there's not much material about the second age to begin with, but yes, the fall of numenor is huge in the story. it leads to elendil & isuldur forming anor and gondor and eventually the last alliance. the time spent on the stranger, the harfoots and what is happening in rhun is pretty much being made up as they go. 

 

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