9 minutes ago, Hawkeye said:

Look at it another way: who would you take straight up in a trade for Hurts at this moment in time - set aside realities like cap space and all that, this is just an academic question. One for one, who would you take? 

Allen, Mahomes, Brady, Herbert and Rodgers are definites. 

Burrow is a probable. 

Lamar, Stafford, Tua and Murray are probably toss ups. 

Dak, Wilson, Cousins and Carr seem to be the others ranked ahead of him before the season that I wouldn’t put ahead of him. 

Watson is obviously an unknown. 

Hurts was probably a top 15 qb before the season, and now he is solidly top 10.

26 minutes ago, Hawkeye said:

Look at it another way: who would you take straight up in a trade for Hurts at this moment in time - set aside realities like cap space and all that, this is just an academic question. One for one, who would you take? 

Mahomes and Jackson. 
Burrow and Herbert, probably.
After that? 
Wilson? No thanks.  Brady or Rodgers?  Kyler Murray?

Good teams win ugly games like yesterday in bad conditions and this team has taken on the personality of it's quarterback. 

Herbert, Rodgers, Allen, Burrow, Mahomes, Brady

Tua was looking really good before he was injured

Kind of think Zac Wilson would be better on another team

No idea about Watson. He's missed a lot of time

No to Murray. I know Lamar is doing great but he does well in the regular season and meh in the postseason

56 minutes ago, EagleRob said:

Perhaps this being a little bit of an exaggeration would get people more bummed than having to run to his defense.  Yes, he'd often put heat unnecessarily on a short pass.   But at the same time, he threw MANY successful screens to Westbrook and company, as well as crossing passes to Celek.  I'm a big fan of that guy, hence my avatar, and I think he got a raw deal from SOME of the fans. I never would consider him great, and am on record stating he won't make Canton. I do think he was above average and took this team to high level without a ton of offensive playmakers.

He was a choke artist with a bad attitude who learned under the best offensive coach in NFL history and played with one of the most enduringly consistent and solid offensive lines in NFL history, or at least during that generation of football.  If he was drafted into any of the situations of the busts from his draft, he’d have had the same fate.  If he had 1/10th of Hurts’ determination or toughness, he’d probably be a multi-SB winner.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

And who got most of those turnovers...the DL. Who drove them down the field opening big holes to convert the turnovers into points? The OL. Turnovers mean nothing unless you get the ball across the line. Hurts also played a big part in that. The end.

They won, so idc

Hurts is the anti-Mcnabb.  Half the physical talent, twice the attitude.  Mcnabb was classlessly boo’d on draft day and never emotionally got over it.  He took that chip on his shoulder and it somehow made him worse.  

I may be spewing fire at Hurts within a few short weeks; this story hasn’t played out and he has a lot to prove.  But no one wanted him from day 1.  Everyone has been looking for ways to replace him, inside the organization, throughout the fan base.  He suffered the indignity of getting benched and having to transfer schools, asked about changing positions at the combine.  There’s no woe is me from him.  All he does is ask for hugs and produce cringe-worthy motivational quotes.

53 minutes ago, EagleRob said:

Perhaps this being a little bit of an exaggeration would get people more bummed than having to run to his defense.  Yes, he'd often put heat unnecessarily on a short pass.   But at the same time, he threw MANY successful screens to Westbrook and company, as well as crossing passes to Celek.  I'm a big fan of that guy, hence my avatar, and I think he got a raw deal from SOME of the fans. I never would consider him great, and am on record stating he won't make Canton. I do think he was above average and took this team to high level without a ton of offensive playmakers.

He was a sub 60% WCO guy mostly because his short range touch was bad. Its not about hitting the screen or the flat 7 or 8 times out of 11. Pros hit it 10 or 11 out of 11. Worm burner was not fake news or exaggeration. He earned that.

The perfect example is the SB pass to LJ Smith Bruschi. If he hits that and they score points there is a really good chance of OT or a win in regulation. He didn't and they stayed down 10.

The Eagles WRs had 268 yards in that SB but they could not catch the ones he throws to the Patriots.

 

Its so bizarre that everyone thinks you can waive Pinkston and Thrash and make it all go away.

Dilfer won a SB with Qadry Ismail, Travis Taylor, and Brandon Stokes.

Brady won with Edelman, a 4th round rookie with a 1 year career, and some Lacrosse player.

Brady beat SD in an AFCCG going deep to some guy who is so mediocre I have to look his name up every time (Reche Caldwell)

McNabb had an open LJ. The talent was enough. He just sucked that day. No WR made him sail that throw or toss a pick-do-over-pick in that SB.

He had fine WRs in 2008 and he could not repeat what he did on Thanksgiving when it mattered.

I seem to remember the best play a WR had that day was DJ forcing a fumble after a McNabb pick. Hank Baskett was not special but he could have ran forever on that crosser  if McNabb did not put the ball on his shoelaces.

16 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Hurts is the anti-Mcnabb.  Half the physical talent, twice the attitude.  Mcnabb was classlessly boo’d on draft day and never emotionally got over it.  He took that chip on his shoulder and it somehow made him worse.  

I may be spewing fire at Hurts within a few short weeks; this story hasn’t played out and he has a lot to prove.  But no one wanted him from day 1.  Everyone has been looking for ways to replace him, inside the organization, throughout the fan base.  He suffered the indignity of getting benched and having to transfer schools, asked about changing positions at the combine.  There’s no woe is me from him.  All he does is ask for hugs and produce cringe-worthy motivational quotes.

McNabb was not booed on draft day. The FO was for not taking Ricky Williams. (stupid drunk people, what can you do?)

Its one thing for him to not understand that in the moment but to hold the lie for 10+ years showed just how butter soft he was.

The national media held the lie because they hate us. For a Philly player to do it was pathetic.

I can't think of another Philly athlete that held a long term useless and unwinnable grudge against the fans besides #5.

Schmidt and J-Roll each had a moment but then their intelligence and character kicked in and they backed down fast and came out even further ahead.

 

I think the criticism of McNabb is over-the-top at times, but it's pretty much all grounded in reality. That guy was his own worst enemy.

1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

I think the criticism of McNabb is over-the-top at times, but it's pretty much all grounded in reality. That guy was his own worst enemy.

Throwing up and then now owning up wasn't great. Yeah, he threw stuff in the ground a lot, but he also didn't have much to work with at all. Andy really screwed his career over in that aspect until the end. The banjo and picking up the phone on the Redskin sideline was all on him. I'd take him in a second in his prime with this team though.

2 hours ago, Hawkeye said:

Look at it another way: who would you take straight up in a trade for Hurts at this moment in time - set aside realities like cap space and all that, this is just an academic question. One for one, who would you take? 

Mahomes and Jackson. 
Burrow and Herbert, probably.
After that? 
Wilson? No thanks.  Brady or Rodgers?  Kyler Murray?

Good teams win ugly games like yesterday in bad conditions and this team has taken on the personality of it's quarterback. 

Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, maybe Jackson (think it's a wash I'd rather have Hurts), Burrow. Rodgers started slow last year, so it could be that as well. Give him the weapons the Eagles have and that OL and I'd take him for a year or two and collect at least one trophy. Time may have finally caught up with Brady.

45 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, maybe Jackson (think it's a wash I'd rather have Hurts), Burrow. Rodgers started slow last year, so it could be that as well. Give him the weapons the Eagles have and that OL and I'd take him for a year or two and collect at least one trophy. Time may have finally caught up with Brady.

Yeah I don't think I'd take Jackson. And right now I wouldn't take Burrow either. Although to be fair he's done a lot more overall in the league given what he did last year. 

The problem with the McNabb bros is that they known being a playoff turnover machine is actually bad.

They have to try to psychoanalyze people who don't like anchor QBs who keep giving the ball to the other team.

He's got a mid 70s QB rating overall in the 6 biggest games of  his life but its really someone else's fault.

 

3 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Throwing up and then now owning up wasn't great. Yeah, he threw stuff in the ground a lot, but he also didn't have much to work with at all. Andy really screwed his career over in that aspect until the end. The banjo and picking up the phone on the Redskin sideline was all on him. I'd take him in a second in his prime with this team though.

People got on him for puking and, yes, he did puke on many occasions, but he played during a time when anxiety was ridiculed. People like Brandon Brooks and Lane Johnson have opened up about their anxiety and today fans are more understanding. Brooks and Johnson have both missed games because of it. McNabb may have needed a moment to puke, but he never missed a game. I don't really blame him for denying stuff because he was afraid of the stigma. 

5 hours ago, SkippyX said:

McNabb was not booed on draft day. The FO was for not taking Ricky Williams. (stupid drunk people, what can you do?)

Its one thing for him to not understand that in the moment but to hold the lie for 10+ years showed just how butter soft he was.

The national media held the lie because they hate us. For a Philly player to do it was pathetic.

I can't think of another Philly athlete that held a long term useless and unwinnable grudge against the fans besides #5.

Schmidt and J-Roll each had a moment but then their intelligence and character kicked in and they backed down fast and came out even further ahead.

 

That's not true.   I was told that #5 would always love me.   

Gonna be on the Manning cast 2nite if any1 cares

2 hours ago, brkmsn said:

People got on him for puking and, yes, he did puke on many occasions, but he played during a time when anxiety was ridiculed. People like Brandon Brooks and Lane Johnson have opened up about their anxiety and today fans are more understanding. Brooks and Johnson have both missed games because of it. McNabb may have needed a moment to puke, but he never missed a game. I don't really blame him for denying stuff because he was afraid of the stigma. 

I was under the impression he drank the night before the sb and was hungover.

Also, boozing makes anxiety worse. 

 

Paintings of himself…how not shocking

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Paintings of himself…how not shocking

Can't wait until he has a couple of him raising up different Lombardi trophies wearing midnight green.

11 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Can't wait until he has a couple of him raising up different Lombardi trophies wearing midnight green.

That would be sweet. 

35 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Can't wait until he has a couple of him raising up different Lombardi trophies wearing midnight green.

 

9 hours ago, KINGnabb said:

 

I'm starting to think get why @Diehardfan says the guy rubs him the wrong way ... A grown man actually is wearing that shirt ..  on national television sitting in front of paintings of himself....that's beyond cringe worthy

Yessir!

55 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

I'm starting to think get why @Diehardfan says the guy rubs him the wrong way ... A grown man actually is wearing that shirt ..  on national television sitting in front of paintings of himself....that's beyond cringe worthy

May God bless you 😄

3 minutes ago, MF POON said:

May God bless you 😄

Now that's F'in funny lol