Listened to Avant’s podcast, and I came away feeling really good about Reagor. It’s a must listen. 

The biggest takeaways: He wants to be great, but he’s raw. He said once he knows what he’s doing out there (knowing coverages, leverage etc) he’s going to be really good. Avant- said he got pissed at him a couple of times because he quit on routes because he didn’t expect the ball to come his way, but that he ended up beating the coverage and the throw was made to open him up more. 

14 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Technically not correct.  Even though we have the 28th comp pick, we also have the 32nd ( last ) comp pick.

He's flipped flopped a lot on that last one, and just recently changed his opinion on it. Will be interesting to see if we actually get it.

4 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I don't remember a time when the Eagles were drafting this early and had a chance to get a top WR.  I dont see it happening this time either.

I am inclined to agree. I've mentally prepped myself for the Eagles to draft a QB at 6. I hope I'm wrong though.

Agreed. Well him and Sewell should be the top of that list 

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I've said all along it was 2023, and they'll have close to $100M that year. Easy to eat $10-20M in dead money that gets pushed out.

Even in 2022, after the restructures, they'll still have $40M or so and only a couple guys to extend.

It's not like there are that many premier FAs you can sign in any year, if you eliminate the guys over 28, maybe 1-2 1st tier and a couple 2nd tier.

There are 31 other teams out there competing for the same players.

They have 40 million now for 2022, but they only have 39  players under contract, and that number will be reduced by the time they get under the cap.

2023, they will have less than 100 million after the restructures, and only have 24 players under contract.  Some of those players, Graham for example, could retire, which would then add 2.4 million to his cap hit.  Once all the restructures are complete, I will post the chart on Howie's method continuing to cripple future cap years.  

There are tons of premier FA's you could sign in any year.  Problem is, we are not even in a position to sign middle to low end FA's due to the mess your hero has created.

 

54 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yea it's going to be tons of fun sitting by the window and seeing all your friends playing with their new toys while we got dollar store knock offs.

Sadly. The only player I want on the roster is Juju, but that won’t happen. 

6 minutes ago, metal said:

I am inclined to agree. I've mentally prepped myself for the Eagles to draft a QB at 6. I hope I'm wrong though.

I don't think it will be a QB at #6.  If so then all that talk about Lurie building around Hurts would be BS.  I can see maybe a QB in rounds 3 or 4.

I'm thinking they gonna take someone who is projected later in the 1st like Barmore from Bama or someone like that.  Hope not but I'm expecting them to screw it up somehow.

25 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Technically not correct.  Even though we have the 28th comp pick, we also have the 32nd ( last ) comp pick.

I mean not every team gets comp picks.  Were like in the wild card round of comp picks. 

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

I don't think it will be a QB at #6.  If so then all that talk about Lurie building around Hurts would be BS.  I can see maybe a QB in rounds 3 or 4.

I'm thinking they gonna take someone who is projected later in the 1st like Barmore from Bama or someone like that.  Hope not but I'm expecting them to screw it up somehow.

They wouldn’t take Barmore at #6, but if they traded all the way back past #15 to acquire future draft picks I’d have no problem with that selection.  He’s the only somewhat dominant DL I’ve seen in this class.

12 minutes ago, metal said:

I am inclined to agree. I've mentally prepped myself for the Eagles to draft a QB at 6. I hope I'm wrong though.

He's got an excuse too. He could say he got Nick his guy. Problem with that though is that Nick will live and die by that QB. I don't watch college ball so I wouldn't know but I've seen some people saying next years QB class will not be good

5 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I don't think it will be a QB at #6.  If so then all that talk about Lurie building around Hurts would be BS.  I can see maybe a QB in rounds 3 or 4.

I'm thinking they gonna take someone who is projected later in the 1st like Barmore from Bama or someone like that.  Hope not but I'm expecting them to screw it up somehow.

You might be right. But also it's smokescreen season so I don't trust a single thing I read or hear coming from teams between now and the draft. Either way I think we agree the Eagles likely will not take a WR at 6.

30 minutes ago, John_C said:

Wow.... corroborated by multiple people with the story coming first hand from an ex-player.  

https://www.phillyvoice.com/eytan-shander-eagles-jeffrey-lurie-meddling-ray-rhodes-jalen-hurts-wip/

Cliff notes, for those not inclined, is in the 90's the locker room suspected Lurie was making a lot of the decisions, listening to WIP.  TE Jimmy Johnson was cut directly by Lurie, and Ray Rhodes wasn't even told about it.  Learned about it encountering the angry player on his way out the door after he had been cut.

This is a much, much bigger problem than I even understood.  I thought this was a relatively new development, and that the seminal moment of SB 52 had deluded the owner into believing his own personnel meddling ways were pure genius.  I considered this correctable, once some threshold of embarrassment and failure had been met.  Doesn't look like that is the case.

Looking back.... this could explain a lot of things.  

Yeah I never imagined that Lurie meddling was a thing until last year when some reports came out , to think it goes as far back as rhodes is shocking, after all these years of ripping snyder and jones for their embarrassing involvement with their teams turns out Lurie was right there with them.

While an owner has the right to do whatever he wants with his team seems the more successful owners let their GM do GM stuff let their coaches coach and as owners right checks for those people to do their jobs.

I mean if any of ud owned a football team I imagine most of us would be involved in football decisions to some extent and I hope I'd be able to reign it in and let the people I hired that are qualified to do what I hired them to do do that, I stead if playing Fantasy football with millions of dollars and people's lives.

 

37 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I guess that's true.  My sense is that they will try to free up some more space.  

Ertz trade

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He's got an excuse too. He could say he got Nick his guy. Problem with that though is that Nick will live and die by that QB. I don't watch college ball so I wouldn't know but I've seen some people saying next years QB class will not be good

I don't watch enough NCAA football to have an opinion either, but I feel like we hear that almost every year. And then every year, there are multiple QBs going in round 1.

2 6th rounders for the Eagles!

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

2 6th rounders for the Eagles!

Howie!!!!

30 minutes ago, downundermike said:

They have 40 million now for 2022, but they only have 39  players under contract, and that number will be reduced by the time they get under the cap.

2023, they will have less than 100 million after the restructures, and only have 24 players under contract.  Some of those players, Graham for example, could retire, which would then add 2.4 million to his cap hit.  Once all the restructures are complete, I will post the chart on Howie's method continuing to cripple future cap years.  

There are tons of premier FA's you could sign in any year.  Problem is, we are not even in a position to sign middle to low end FA's due to the mess your hero has created.

 

I asked before but I'll ask again because I'm honestly not sure - was there any actual avenue to get under the cap this year that did not involve restructuring some contracts?  I fail to see how this was possible.  But regardless, these moves don't remotely "cripple future cap years."

17 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yeah I never imagined that Lurie meddling was a thing until last year when some reports came out , to think it goes as far back as rhodes is shocking, after all these years of ripping snyder and jones for their embarrassing involvement with their teams turns out Lurie was right there with them.

While an owner has the right to do whatever he wants with his team seems the more successful owners let their GM do GM stuff let their coaches coach and as owners right checks for those people to do their jobs.

I mean if any of ud owned a football team I imagine most of us would be involved in football decisions to some extent and I hope I'd be able to reign it in and let the people I hired that are qualified to do what I hired them to do do that, I stead if playing Fantasy football with millions of dollars and people's lives.

This team under Lurie, in the grand scheme of things, has been one of the more successful franchises in the NFL throughout the past 20 years. Consistently deep playoff runs in the 2000s, a playoff appearance under Chip, a Super Bowl in 2018, arguably one drop away from another NFCCG the year after that, and then the wheels came off this past season. Lurie has his flaws, but this team hasn't been a poverty franchise from a success standpoint like Washington and Dallas have so to put him in the same breath as Snyder or Jones is unwarranted.  

2 minutes ago, Peppersmacks said:

I asked before but I'll ask again because I'm honestly not sure - was there any actual avenue to get under the cap this year that did not involve restructuring some contracts?  I fail to see how this was possible.  But regardless, these moves don't remotely "cripple future cap years."

No there was not, and the full extent of the damage has not been done yet.

9 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Howie!!!!

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

No there was not, and the full extent of the damage has not been done yet.

Thanks and you're right.  We'll still got at least a few restructures to go.  To me the issue isn't restructuring but whether you are identifying the right players to restructure.  As long as the player remains productive and someone you would want on the team in a couple of years anyway, the fact that they're making an excess couple million isn't that big of a deal to me.  It's not ideal but understandable given our current situation.  But if you still think Lane will be a quality right tackle in three years, restructuring him now isn't the issue and isn't how we got into this situation.  We're here because of ridiculous mistakes like Alshon and the two Jacksons.

5 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

This team under Lurie, in the grand scheme of things, has been one of the more successful franchises in the NFL throughout the past 20 years. Consistently deep playoff runs in the 2000s, a playoff appearance under Chip, a Super Bowl in 2018, arguably one drop away from another NFCCG the year after that, and then the wheels came off this past season. Lurie has his flaws, but this team hasn't been a poverty franchise from a success standpoint like Washington and Dallas has so to put him in the same breath as Snyder or Jones is unwarranted.  

True, doesn't seem like there was much meddling while Reid was here or at least not reports of such.

Maybe Reid and Lurie just had a really good working relationship, they sure had a lot of success.

For a minute there seemed like Pederson did as well yet seems Pederson grew tired of Lurie telling him what to do, so question was Luries involvement with pederson more than while with Reid or did Reid just manage it better?

And what's Howie's role In it all?

43 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Listened to Avant’s podcast, and I came away feeling really good about Reagor. It’s a must listen. 

The biggest takeaways: He wants to be great, but he’s raw. He said once he knows what he’s doing out there (knowing coverages, leverage etc) he’s going to be really good. Avant- said he got pissed at him a couple of times because he quit on routes because he didn’t expect the ball to come his way, but that he ended up beating the coverage and the throw was made to open him up more. 

Shouldn’t be surprising he’s raw. We all knew that last year. Daniel Jeremiah even alluded to it in his pre-draft evaluation that he was not nearly as polished as someone like jefferson. I don’t have a problem with reagor. I think he’ll be fine. Star? I kind of doubt that. My bigger issue is not maximizing that pick knowing Jefferson’s value at that point (which i believe they could’ve gotten great value for the pick from a team that wanted him) and then not utilizing him remotely correct all season except for a hand full of times.  

Just now, Utebird said:

True, doesn't seem like there was much meddling while Reid was here or at least not reports of such.

Maybe Reid and Lurie just had a really good working relationship, they sure had a lot of success.

For a minute there seemed like Pederson did as well yet seems Pederson grew tired of Lurie telling him what to do, so question was Luries involvement with pederson more than while with Reid or did Reid just manage it better?

And what's Howie's role In it all.

I don't know what to believe with how or when Lurie meddles and what direct decisions he's making. But if someone wants to criticize him for how disastrous last season was, then you have to give him credit for his overall successes throughout the past 20 years.