12 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

You do realize that teams had far less access to scouting players this year, and very little opportunity to meet with them one on one and ask them questions or get a sense for who they are. Anything sliver of information or impression they can get from a player is important. If you or others don't think they can learn anything about someone from paying that game with them, fine. Trashing the coach and making a joke out of him trying to find creative ways to get know prospects and get a sense for who they are is beyond asinine though.

I’m not trashing the coach, just the idea that Rock Paper Scissors is any kind of measure of a person’s competitiveness. I’d venture to say they got absolutely nothing of real value from it. But if you want to say it was an ice breaker or a way to relieve tension from a job interview, cool. But how a player reacts to that game is about as meaningless as it gets.

What’s the ideal response if a player loses? That he wants best 2 out of 3 or 4 out of 7 or 11 out of 21? That he throws his computer across the screen because he can’t handle losing? Seriously, what are we looking for here?

46 minutes ago, hputenis said:

2 opportunities to use gifs from Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey in 1 night.  Did I just win the lottery?

do your turds sank in the crapper, you flapper

42 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m not trashing the coach, just the idea that Rock Paper Scissors is any kind of measure of a person’s competitiveness. I’d venture to say they got absolutely nothing of real value from it. But if you want to say it was an ice breaker or a way to relieve tension from a job interview, cool. But how a player reacts to that game is about as meaningless as it gets.

What’s the ideal response if a player loses? That he wants best 2 out of 3 or 4 out of 7 or 11 out of 21? That he throws his computer across the screen because he can’t handle losing? Seriously, what are we looking for here?

It’s about attitude. There are people who compete in everything they do and you can tell a difference between someone who competes and who goes through the motions. I personally think it can have a lot of value and it looks like other people here do too. Event + Reaction = Outcome. I’d venture to say you’re reaction to this whole event is the outcome of the player they are trying to avoid.

13 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

It’s about attitude. There are people who compete in everything they do and you can tell a difference between someone who competes and who goes through the motions. I personally think it can have a lot of value and it looks like other people here do too. Event + Reaction = Outcome. I’d venture to say you’re reaction to this whole event is the outcome of the player they are trying to avoid.

And that right there is the danger of trying to equate competitiveness to how you respond to a game of Rock Paper Scissors. 

Basketball was my sport in HS. I took it as an insult when I gave up a basket. I played as hard or harder than anyone on the court. I took losses hard. I treated practice like it was a live game.

But because I couldn’t care less about a game of chance my level of competitiveness isn’t good enough to be the best possible player I could be? That’s asinine. It boggles my mind that people can’t see how stupid that is. 

Let’s play connect 4, chess, checkers, something that’s actually competitive. Rock Paper Scissors ain’t it. 

Rock, paper, scissors is a small step above flipping a coin and calling heads or tails. This argument makes no sense. 

26 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

And that right there is the danger of trying to equate competitiveness to how you respond to a game of Rock Paper Scissors. 

Basketball was my sport in HS. I took it as an insult when I gave up a basket. I played as hard or harder than anyone on the court. I took losses hard. I treated practice like it was a live game.

But because I couldn’t care less about a game of chance my level of competitiveness isn’t good enough to be the best possible player I could be? That’s asinine. It boggles my mind that people can’t see how stupid that is. 

Let’s play connect 4, chess, checkers, something that’s actually competitive. Rock Paper Scissors ain’t it. 

You know there is an actual organization called the World Rock Paper Scissors Association right? There are people out there that compete in tournaments all the time. There is a lot of real psychological strategy.

Btw playing the game and working hard doesn’t exactly mean you’re competitive. Most people that are competitive are competing with themselves and constantly observing others to make sure they are ahead. It’s just a different level.

Tom Brady is a perfect example of a competitor. Carson Wentz is actually a good example of someone who works hard, is talented, hates to lose, but isn’t competitive. He didn’t want to compete with Foles. He ran away when he got benched for Hurts. 

Yo yo yo ma fuuggaas. I miss ma boi shocker. He be doin da real draft nalysis ya know 

Whens big d!ck nick coming back?! 

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Rock, paper, scissors is a small step above flipping a coin and calling heads or tails. This argument makes no sense. 

if they really wanted to see the competitiveness then should’ve done flip cup or beer pong. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

if they really wanted to see the competitiveness then should’ve done flip cup or beer pong. 

Both are way more competitive than Rock Paper Scissors. Also there’s a lot more pressure. 

5 hours ago, schuy7 said:

I know I'm not Reagor's biggest fan so maybe I'm too harsh, but those plays don't impress me. The backyard football play is nice, but I'm not sure how it really applies to his NFL success. He just made way less athletic, future insurance salesmen look silly.

You see those plays every week in the NFL

I’m on a legit roller coaster with this draft. It goes day to day with me wanting Smith, or Slater, or a Corner, or just saying F it and wanting them to draft Lance/Fields.

Haven’t been this anxious about a draft in years.

21 hours ago, Ipiggles said:

we are about as dysfunctional in the front office/ coaching staff today as I can recall in the past 25+ years. Not since before Lurie bought the team have we been this dysfunctional. And there have been bad times to be sure, during that almost 30 year span (Chip Kelly, Rich Kotite eras, the end of Ray Rhodes era, the end of Reids era etc.)....   but this is the worst. and that says a lot, i expect this will take a few years and massive organizational changes to correct, because it all starts at the top with HOWIE) 

The top is Jeff. He's allowing this mess. He is heavily involved in all facets now, it's not as if he's on an island somewhere sipping Mai-Tai's while Howie is running roughshod. 

20 hours ago, Original Sin said:

Top 25 pick , imo

per pff

Elijah Moore caught 97% of catchable targets beyond the line of scrimmage in 2020.

Best among all WRs in College Football

Another one who will be better than Reagor 

Per Jordan Reid 

Toughest 1st Round Picks to Project: 

4. Falcons
7. Lions
9. Broncos 
11. Giants
16. Cardinals
20. Bears
25. Jaguars
30. Bills
32. Bucs

1 minute ago, Original Sin said:

Per Jordan Reid 

Toughest 1st Round Picks to Project: 

4. Falcons
7. Lions
9. Broncos 
11. Giants
16. Cardinals
20. Bears
25. Jaguars
30. Bills
32. Bucs

I'll fix this for Jordan

Every team after the Jets

 

Some team will get a player in Diablo , I’m definitely moving him to backer though , I think he goes a round or two earlier than his projections 

really like this backer class 

7 hours ago, MillerTime said:

You know there is an actual organization called the World Rock Paper Scissors Association right? There are people out there that compete in tournaments all the time. There is a lot of real psychological strategy.

Btw playing the game and working hard doesn’t exactly mean you’re competitive. Most people that are competitive are competing with themselves and constantly observing others to make sure they are ahead. It’s just a different level.

Tom Brady is a perfect example of a competitor. Carson Wentz is actually a good example of someone who works hard, is talented, hates to lose, but isn’t competitive. He didn’t want to compete with Foles. He ran away when he got benched for Hurts. 

Do you believe playing Rock Paper Scissors for maybe 30 seconds over zoom will give you an idea of how competitive someone is?

If so, how?

Why not tic tac toe ?

On 4/23/2021 at 6:37 AM, greend said:

Stop posting high

First of all, never. 2nd of all do you honestly believe,  say Lamb or Jefferson,  would look good last year? Because if you do in fact believe that, you need the weed.

 

Not sure how you evaluate accurate qbs and very inaccurate qbs.

1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said:

Another one who will be better than Reagor 

Reagor is going to be fine.  Yes, Justin Jefferson is 99% most likely going to have the better career even if his production dips and Reagor improves.  He's clearly an excellent WR.

I posted Reagor's college highlights last night and while he lacks Jefferson's elite route running skills (which can be improved if he works at it), Reagor showed elite explosiveness and speed.  He made play after play at TCU.

Another thing to remember here.  One of DP's biggest downfalls was creating plays that take advantage of his players best traits.  We've all talked about it the past few years and it goes far beyond taking advantage of what Reagor can do.  The hope is that the new coaching staff stays true to their word, comes in here and realizes what's unique about each player and calls plays to utilize what each plays does best.

With all that being said, I would love to pair Elijah Moore with Reagor.  Could be a dynamic duo.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Do you believe playing Rock Paper Scissors for maybe 30 seconds over zoom will give you an idea of how competitive someone is?

If so, how?

Apparently,  the do this in college. It also could have been a Alabama WR he was talking about. 

 

 

16 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Some team will get a player in Diablo , I’m definitely moving him to backer though , I think he goes a round or two earlier than his projections 

really like this backer class 

This is a great year to have two 3rd round picks.  The value for safety and linebacker is tremendous in round 3 this year.  What I fear is a run on both happening in late round 2. 

I was anti CB in round 1 but depending on how the board falls.   Horn/Surtain in round 1.  WR at 37 then round 3 LB and S.

Or, trade back in round 1 a little bit, pick up an 4th or another 3rd.  Zaven Collins in round 1.  WR at 37 DE, CB, S in round 3/4.

23 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

Wentz and Hurts both played the same, both terrible. It was a lot of things that lead to last years poor offensive season. Yes bad QB play by BOTH QBs, recs playing very poorly, bad coaching, bad play calling/play design/scheme. Now im not saying Wentz will be back to his 2017 self, but I can bet he will have a nice career with Indy and many playoff appearances. 

I rated Reagor as a 2nd round project last year befroe the draft, I wanted nothing to do with him. Can he be a avg ok WR with good coaching? sure. I dont see him as first round talent. So yes, i would have rather have option A- Wentz at QB with Lamb then having option B- Reagor and Hurts if thats the two choices. Yes there are more choices we could have had but between those two, option A. 

So you are happy with a qb that isn't accurate and holds and fumbles the ball, compare a veteran qb to a 2nd round rookie that played 3.5 games?

 

Ok

6 minutes ago, PhillyRockd said:

Apparently,  the do this in college. It also could have been a Alabama WR he was talking about. 

 

 

That’s pretty funny. 

I wait to after rd 1 and 2  for a backer , and go Barnes , Werner , McGrone , Browning or McDuffie