1 minute ago, DoWorx said:

not happy about trading back behind the vaGaints

will it really matter? Howie only bats about .150 no matter where he picks from.   we could pick in front of the entire nfc east and they all would still draft much better than we do. 

Just now, Ipiggles said:

will it really matter? Howie only bats about .150 no matter where he picks from.   we could pick in front of the entire nfc east and they all would still draft much better than we do. 

Sadly that’s better than what the Phillies centerfielders are hitting. 

How anyone could watch this tv production...I tried but man, so little substance anywhere in there

Spoiler

Lions select Alim McNeil, DL

Very nice player for a third round pick. 

Did Friermouth (sp?) go yet? Can we get back into 3rd round with 4th rounder, Ertz, and one of our late picks?

18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

1 ACL sure... 2 ACLs... maybe.  2 ACLs and 1 ankle... ice is getting thinner.   2 ACLs and 2 ankles, you are literally out of legs to stand on.

Exactly.  1 more ACL on the same knee it won’t matter, he’s done.  We are completely disregarding the fact that we don’t know how he’ll play after his 2nd tear since he hasn’t recovered yet.  I’ve never heard of anyone being better after their 2nd acl tear. 

Lions having a nice draft

Just now, purplefiggy said:

How anyone could watch this tv production...I tried but man, so little substance anywhere in there

Not to mention it's about 3 picks behind

OMFG

Bo Wolf says best spider graph in the draft

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/milton-williams

 

My boy milton

6 minutes ago, Mrkingofspades said:

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Panthers select Brady Christiansen, OL

 

Go BYU!

Spoiler

Eagles select Milton Williams, DL

I like Nixon a little more, but love the upside here, incredible athlete. 

Won't ruin the pick but his spider graph  is hilarious

Great pick.

PROSPECT SUMMARY - MILTON WILLIAMS

Louisiana Tech EDGE Milton Williams was productive over the last two seasons for the Bulldogs, where he racked up 104 tackles, 19 tackles for loss, and 10 sacks over that span. Louisiana Tech played him both as a 5-technique and occasionally on the interior. I believe his best chance in the NFL comes in a defense that gives him opportunities to play on the edge on early downs with chances to rush from interior gaps on long and late downs. He is a terrific run defender that processes well, plays with extension, and has good power at the point of attack. As a pass rusher, Williams keeps his hands engaged and relentlessly competes to clear contact. He has good twitch in his upper body and the agility needed to get around the edges of blockers. Williams has a chance to factor into the defensive line rotation early in his NFL career with the upside to command a majority of the snaps as he develops. 

Ideal Role: Base end, interior pass rusher.

 

Scheme Fit: Multiple.

 

FILM EVALUATION

Written by: Joe Marino 

Games watched: BYU (2020), UAB (2020), North Texas (2020), Georgia Southern (2020)   

Best Game Studied: North Texas (2020) 

Worst Game Studied: BYU (2020) 

First-Step Explosiveness: Williams can be tardy out of his stance and he lacks a dynamic first step. He was often in a four-point stance and asked to defend multiple gaps, so the slow get-off is somewhat expected. With that said, when it was time to explode and penetrate, he demonstrated rapid quickness out of his stances and can stress blockers to stay square and keep him off their edges. 

Flexibility: Williams has a twitchy upper body and he is fully capable of reducing his surface area and working around the edges of blocks. He isn’t quite as loose in his lowers but he does have enough to corner blocks. Overall, Williams has good agility and can work back across his momentum when necessary. 

Hand Counters: Williams’ hands stay busy on every snap. He does well to work his hands, combine moves, and compete to get off blocks. He doesn’t have a go-to move, but his hands stay engaged. 

Length: Williams has sufficient length and he does well to play with extension. As a two-gapping defensive end in college, he did a good job of controlling reps at the point of attack and keeping his pads clean. He doesn’t have vines for arms, but he uses his length well. 

Hand Power: Williams has a decent amount of pop in his hands and good grip strength. When he does get his arms locked out, he doesn’t easily concede hand placement and he can control reps against the run. Heavy hands are a big reason why he made plays in college and embracing a compression-style role in the NFL will be important for him to carve out his niche. 

Run Defending: Williams is an excellent run defender. He processes quickly and understands how to respond so he can maintain his run fit. He sets firm edges and does well to squeeze down. 

Effort: Williams plays the game with consistently good effort. He shows good enthusiasm in pursuit and is always willing to chase and rally to the football. He is rarely stuck on blocks and competes throughout each rep. 

Football IQ: Williams is a terrific processor against the run and he has good vision overall. While I think he can improve his technique, he keeps his hands engaged and does well to play with extension. He plays with good leverage and was only flagged for three penalties in his entire career. 

Lateral Mobility: Williams is best in condensed spaces. He isn’t going to track down perimeter runs to the boundary, so maintaining leverage, playing with great technique, and processing quickly is critical for his success. He is not a candidate to stand up or play in space. 

Versatility: Williams’ best role comes as a base end that gets chances to rush from the interior. He served as both a 5-technique in odd fronts at Louisiana Tech with plenty of reps aligned on the interior. He has playmaking ability as a run defender and pass rusher. 

Prospect Comparison: Malik Jackson (2012 NFL Draft, Denver Broncos)  

Guy we were linked too but wtf with no lb or db?

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Hudson, McCoy, Kelly, Mack, Lindler...the best centers in the NFL, were all drafted in the first 3 rounds. Frederick was as well before he retired. 

Now your turn...how early do 5'10" CBs usually go?

First 3 rounds, eh?   Not Round 1?  Not top of Round 2?   So, they could have waited until Round 3 to take the OC and been well within the norm, according to you.

But, you missed the point... CB = premier position.   OC = not premier position.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

im moving on to day 3 in the master of the draft. Who is with me?

See ya tomorrow. Also nets about to lose which is huge 

Don’t matter how many DL you have when everyone is running wild in the secondary 

Don't know anything about him but I hope he can play.

 

So who is CB2? Slay, ____, Maddox (slot)

Don't need a DT at all but I do like the player quite a bit. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

 

Not surprised by this, seems like an Andy Reid JJ johnson fast ball pick old habits die hard but I like Milton.