11 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

"It’s more a gut feeling rather than based on really truly serious data,”said Patrick Moore, a member of the committee and a professor of molecular genetics and biochemistry at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine. "The data itself is not strong, but it is certainly going in the direction that is supportive of this vote.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fda-advisors-to-consider-moderna-covid-19-booster-shot-11634211532?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/q5kMhW4QMl

I made a comment about it yesterday after the vote. They all voted unanimously in favor yet spent most of the meeting sh**ting on the concept of boosters reducing mild to moderate disease. Bizarre to say the least. That being said, even if this dingleberry had voted No, they'd still be still at 18-1.

5 minutes ago, NYEagle said:

This is as bad as the 411 section!!  I would have loved to read this but am not signing up, how about a little copy and paste action!!

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/576812-fda-panel-recommends-authorizing-moderna-booster-shot

J&J approved unanimously again by VRBPAC

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

J&J approved unanimously again by VRBPAC

Is my understanding correct that the vote on making recommendations & approving the booster will be held on October 21?  If so, any idea on a timeline for when it might be available for those of us more than 6 months out from our original vaccine (I only specify this since there seems to be some question of whether to recommend the booster 2 months or 6 months after initial vaccination). 

8 minutes ago, Imp81318 said:

Is my understanding correct that the vote on making recommendations & approving the booster will be held on October 21?  If so, any idea on a timeline for when it might be available for those of us more than 6 months out from our original vaccine (I only specify this since there seems to be some question of whether to recommend the booster 2 months or 6 months after initial vaccination). 

VRBPAC just voted 19-0 on J&J boosters (see below). Next it will go to the FDA, then ACIP, then finally CDC. But with a unanimous vote like this, approval is basically a formality. The biggest difference with J&J from the other two is that overall protection was significantly less, and thus the panel voted to approve for everyone 18+, rather than 65+ and at risk like the mRNA vaccines. So basically everyone with J&J will be able to get a booster by next week. Though if you got the first J&J dose, I would try to see if you can get an mRNA dose as the booster rather than a second J&J dose. The difference in protection was notable from the NIH data we have so far.

 

1:30 p.m.: The panel voted on the following question:

Do available data support the safety and effectiveness of Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine for use under EUA as a booster dose in individuals 18 years and older at least 2 months after a single dose primary vaccination?

Yes: 19

No: 0

Abstain: 0

— Matthew Herper

 

https://www.statnews.com/2021/10/15/follow-the-fda-advisory-panel-meeting-on-the-jj-covid-vaccine-booster/

Has mixing been discussed?

8 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Has mixing been discussed?

Vaguely...

 

Is boosting J&J with another brand of vaccine a looming option?

1:25 p.m.: This is turning out to be a bad meeting for J&J. It’s clearly the view of a lot of VRBPAC members that this vaccine should be a two-dose vaccine. And it’s also apparent that the FDA is thinking about whether the boost for the J&J vaccine should be another brand of vaccine.

There won’t be a vote on that issue this afternoon. Peter Marks, director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, said FDA hasn’t yet had time to analyze thoroughly the data from the NIH’s mix-and-match study.

But VRBPAC chair Arnold Monto asked Marks if it’s possible that at some point there will be an EUA — emergency use authorization — that permits heterologous boosting, i.e. priming with one vaccine and boosting with another.

"I would say it’s possible,” said Marks.

— Helen Branswell

46 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Vaguely...

 

Is boosting J&J with another brand of vaccine a looming option?

1:25 p.m.: This is turning out to be a bad meeting for J&J. It’s clearly the view of a lot of VRBPAC members that this vaccine should be a two-dose vaccine. And it’s also apparent that the FDA is thinking about whether the boost for the J&J vaccine should be another brand of vaccine.

There won’t be a vote on that issue this afternoon. Peter Marks, director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, said FDA hasn’t yet had time to analyze thoroughly the data from the NIH’s mix-and-match study.

But VRBPAC chair Arnold Monto asked Marks if it’s possible that at some point there will be an EUA — emergency use authorization — that permits heterologous boosting, i.e. priming with one vaccine and boosting with another.

"I would say it’s possible,” said Marks.

— Helen Branswell

Thanks. So will there information/approval for getting an mRNA booster if you originally got the J&J vaccine by next week?

FDA panel endorses booster shot for J&J COVID-19 vaccine

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fda-panel-takes-tough-questions-134652083.html

3 minutes ago, Imp81318 said:

Thanks. So will there information/approval for getting an mRNA booster if you originally got the J&J vaccine by next week?

No, that's still under discussion. What was approved today was boosting a J&J first dose with a second dose of J&J. But the data supports mix and matching, and some pharmacies are allowing it, so it's more "under the table" as of yet. Best to talk to your dr. about it. Eventually they'll most likely approve that but as of now you can only get a second J&J dose if you want to play it strictly by the book.

21 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

I couldn't help but notice that you used the word shed... not once, but twice!

 

It's weird how the evidence keeps piling up on this, could it be that masks work?

K-12 schools without mask mandates in Michigan saw 62% more coronavirus spread

https://www.freep.com/story/news/health/2021/10/15/michigan-data-show-mask-mandates-slow-covid-spread-in-schools/8422532002/

25 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

No, that's still under discussion. What was approved today was boosting a J&J first dose with a second dose of J&J. But the data supports mix and matching, and some pharmacies are allowing it, so it's more "under the table" as of yet. Best to talk to your dr. about it. Eventually they'll most likely approve that but as of now you can only get a second J&J dose if you want to play it strictly by the book.

Gotcha, that’s kind of what I thought. Now the decision of whether to wait for mixing approval or just get the booster that’s available….

4 hours ago, rambo said:

Teh AIDS you got from blowing hobo corks probably put you in the high risk category.  Good move on getting vaccinated.  Do you check for proof of vax before you blow hobo cork under the El in Kensington now?

Yes.  No card, no cork blow.

4 hours ago, Arthur Jackson said:

I couldn't help but notice that you used the word shed... not once, but twice!

He's a man who dreams of a nice shed. Maybe two.

10 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Why is the mannequin thing and the Biden booster fake backdrop thing even a story?

Oh, right, because we share this country with idiots like lynched and Kz who think the pandemic is fake, and the whole world is in on it to get Trump out of office.

Only somebody with their head stuck three feet up their a s s like you could fail to see how the Covid situation is being abused by the authorities. 

21 minutes ago, Procus said:

Only somebody with their head stuck three feet up their a s s like you could fail to see how the Covid situation is being abused by the authorities. 

Cool

7 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

 

https://www.freep.com/story/news/health/2021/10/15/michigan-data-show-mask-mandates-slow-covid-spread-in-schools/8422532002/

1 Who'd of thought the media has a liberal bias? Derrr

2 Oh look an article from an "unbiased" source that confirms the mantra.

😒

14 hours ago, Procus said:

Only somebody with their head stuck three feet up their a s s like you could fail to see how the Covid situation is being abused by the authorities. 

 

On 10/15/2021 at 9:00 AM, we_gotta_believe said:

Why is the mannequin thing and the Biden booster fake backdrop thing even a story?

Oh, right, because we share this country with idiots like lynched and Kz who think the pandemic is fake, and the whole world is in on it to get Trump out of office.

Coming from that means nothing.

I never said fake. I said overhyped and that we paid to create it.

The easily mislead are fixated on the fairytale that the untreated are somehow going to kill them. 

Most likely because the reality scares the **** out of people.

35 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

Coming from that means nothing.

I never said fake. I said overhyped and that we paid to create it.

The easily mislead are fixated on the fairytale that the untreated are somehow going to kill them. 

Most likely because the reality scares the **** out of people.

 

1 hour ago, lynched1 said:

Coming from that means nothing.

I never said fake. I said overhyped and that we paid to create it.

The easily mislead are fixated on the fairytale that the untreated are somehow going to kill them. 

Most likely because the reality scares the **** out of people.

When all is said and done a million (or close enough) Americans will be dead from COVID. That's your "overhyped" pandemic.

Many of these deaths will occur AFTER the availability of vaccines because the right wing if this country has radicalized itself against its own overhyped enemy within (the ever present left-wing Boogeymen). 

Since the right wing in this country has abandoned even the pretense of critical thinking and adherence to any principles, it only needs to define itself against its overhyped enemy: the Democrats. Or in truth anyone who doesn't support Trump and Trumpism. And since those who don't support Trump broadly support vaccines and believe in medical science, by necessity Trumpists must reflexively reject COVID as being a serious public health risk.

I know you did not read past the first couple lines of this because your cognitive dissonance doesn't allow you to even possess a thought remotely challenging your political dogma. But I'm sure nonetheless you'll respond with some confidently stupid phrases that fit your narrative and think yourself quite clever. 

But maybe it'll niggle at you enough that you'll have a thought of your own as you clean my pool or mow my lawn. Though I'm not holding my breath. 

2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

When all is said and done a million (or close enough) Americans will be dead from COVID. That's your "overhyped" pandemic.

So. People die every day. Everyone is born to that one thing. That is the one universal commonality among all people.

 

2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Many of these deaths will occur AFTER the availability of vaccines because the right wing if this country has radicalized itself against its own overhyped enemy within (the ever present left-wing Boogeymen). 

 

Again. So? You seem to have memory issues. Pre Biden liberals weren't touching "Trump's vaccine".

Plenty of Biden voters still not touching it.

3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Since the right wing in this country has abandoned even the pretense of critical thinking and adherence to any principles, it only needs to define itself against its overhyped enemy: the Democrats. Or in truth anyone who doesn't support Trump and Trumpism. And since those who don't support Trump broadly support vaccines and believe in medical science, by necessity Trumpists must reflexively reject COVID as being a serious public health risk.

Critical thinking =/= "One of Us"

They give you a shot and call it a vaccine yet it fails to function as one.

They change the official definition of a vaccine to fit the circumstances but that fails to concern you. Doesn't even cause a pause.

The origins are traced back to a small town that just coincidentally happens to be located near a level 4 bio lab funded with US tax dollars but its the unvaccinated that are going to get you despite your treatment.

Your attempt to define a lack of critical thinking fails.