October 18, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: The sad part is that we'll never know if it was a false sense of security from being vaccinated that allowed him to let his guard down that lead to the infection. Would he have been better off being unvaccinated but extremely cautious? Who knows? It's just a shame that so many vaccinated individuals believe themselves to be immune to the virus when, obviously, that isn't the case. RIP, Colin. That’s gotta be the dumbest crap I’ve heard, ever. And you’ve said some dumb crap so to one up yourself is impressive.
October 18, 20214 yr 40 minutes ago, Kz! said: Incredible how the media coverage changes when Florida starts doing great. Looking forward to a few weeks from now when they have an inevitable rise so I can go back to reading about how DeSantis is murdering Floridians. It’s simple. They stopped counting. Just like the election….Unfortunately they still lost that though. Strategic mistake on their part too because now there’s thousands of dead Floridians who can vote democratic in 2024.
October 18, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, DBW said: That’s gotta be the dumbest crap I’ve heard, ever. And you’ve said some dumb crap so to one up yourself is impressive. How is that dumb? There are plenty of vaccinated individuals who are acting as if the vaccine completely prevents transmission and serious illness. It doesn't. Everyone should be cautious. 2 minutes ago, DBW said: It’s simple. They stopped counting. Just like the election….Unfortunately they still lost that though. Strategic mistake on their part too because now there’s thousands of dead Floridians who can vote democratic in 2024. Where did you read that, blueanon?
October 18, 20214 yr Just now, Kz! said: How is that dumb? There are plenty of vaccinated individuals who are acting as if the vaccine completely prevents transmission and serious illness. It doesn't. Everyone should be cautious. Where are these "plenty of vaccinated individuals" who are acting like the vaccine is 100% effective at preventing illness? It does provide a LOT of protection against serious illness, as is evidenced in the serious case, hospitalization, and death rates among unvaccinated vs vaccinated. But the vaccines have never been presented as being 100% effective; seems like a strawman to me. What I do know is there are a substantial number of parents who have passed away leaving orphaned children because they weren't vaccinated. Here's another couple: https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-covid-kevin-misty-mitchem-virginia-died-coronavirus-not-vaccinated-5-orphans-20211018-hzyatoqplzchjb23k663jlrc4e-story.html
October 18, 20214 yr Serious question - has there been anything in this country's history that has divided it more than COVID? Vietnam, maybe? I mean I guess the Civil War was a literal division, but I mean the current state of our country. 50 states.
October 18, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Where are these "plenty of vaccinated individuals" who are acting like the vaccine is 100% effective at preventing illness? It does provide a LOT of protection against serious illness, as is evidenced in the serious case, hospitalization, and death rates among unvaccinated vs vaccinated. But the vaccines have never been presented as being 100% effective; seems like a strawman to me. What I do know is there are a substantial number of parents who have passed away leaving orphaned children because they weren't vaccinated. Here's another couple: https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-covid-kevin-misty-mitchem-virginia-died-coronavirus-not-vaccinated-5-orphans-20211018-hzyatoqplzchjb23k663jlrc4e-story.html There are a lot of people who get the vaccine and act like they are 100% protected. Also, lol at saying the vaccines were never presented as 100% effective. Liberalism really does rot the brain:
October 18, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: Uhh, thanks guy. Not sure who you are, but I appreciate the sentiment. You're way cooler than the dude who said he wanted me to die a few weeks ago. Good luck, Kz. Seriously effn’ dumb*ss
October 18, 20214 yr 16 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Serious question - has there been anything in this country's history that has divided it more than COVID? Vietnam, maybe? I mean I guess the Civil War was a literal division, but I mean the current state of our country. 50 states. Putting aside the Civil War, the only real comps are Vietnam and the end of the George W Bush presidency with Iraq and the financial crash. I wasn't alive for Vietnam, but back then there was only network news. So the country was divided, but that division wasn't actively stoked by either side (at least through media outlets). Plus, the war went from a Democratic administration to a Republican one. You also had civil rights at the same time...but again, there wasn't a sense of people hating other Americans just because of voter registration. It was more those who trusted the institutions versus those who wanted to radically change them. 2008/2009 with the financial crisis was bad, but not this bad IMO. Yeah, you have the OWS clowns in the park in NYC, and people were threatening bank executives. But the anger was directed primarily at bankers, Wall Street and politicians. Now, we have vitriol directed to other Americans based on political party. I don't think we've seen that since the days of abolitionists vs. anti-abolitionists.
October 18, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Serious question - has there been anything in this country's history that has divided it more than COVID? Vietnam, maybe? I mean I guess the Civil War was a literal division, but I mean the current state of our country. 50 states. COVID is just one more front in this culture war. What's divided the nation is probably lack of a common enemy that unites us. The last time the nation unified was in the wake of 9/11, but since then we've seen divisions sharpen as news networks pummel us daily with negativity (because unfortunately human nature responds more sharply to negativity than positivity) to driver viewership. As a result we also see political parties that are dominated by culture war issues, and a lot more gatekeeping by these political parties around these social issues. Trump didn't cause this, but he did capitalize on it and was a catalyst for further division. This is why Trump being booted did not turn the temperature down as much as we hoped (it did tone it down quite a bit, though I think Trump being booted from social media probably was a bigger factor than Biden). And yes, outside influences from Russia and China are also manipulating people through social media. They love that we're at war with ourselves.
October 18, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Putting aside the Civil War, the only real comps are Vietnam and the end of the George W Bush presidency with Iraq and the financial crash. I wasn't alive for Vietnam, but back then there was only network news. So the country was divided, but that division wasn't actively stoked by either side (at least through media outlets). Plus, the war went from a Democratic administration to a Republican one. You also had civil rights at the same time...but again, there wasn't a sense of people hating other Americans just because of voter registration. It was more those who trusted the institutions versus those who wanted to radically change them. 2008/2009 with the financial crisis was bad, but not this bad IMO. Yeah, you have the OWS clowns in the park in NYC, and people were threatening bank executives. But the anger was directed primarily at bankers, Wall Street and politicians. Now, we have vitriol directed to other Americans based on political party. I don't think we've seen that since the days of abolitionists vs. anti-abolitionists. What I've seen at school board meetings is insanity.
October 18, 20214 yr Japan has not approved ivermectin as a COVID treatment, and it’s still using the Moderna vaccine Ivermectin is not listed by the Japanese government as an approved medication to treat COVID-19. https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/japan-has-not-approved-ivermectin-as-a-covid-treatment-and-its-still-using-the-moderna-vaccine/ However, idiots may try to tell you differently. Why are they lying scumbags? Who knows? https://factcheck.afp.com/http%3A%2F%2Fdoc.afp.com%2F9MR86R-1 My guess is these people are pathetic a-holes with nothing in their lives. This is the only power they feel. How pathetic is that?
October 18, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Putting aside the Civil War, the only real comps are Vietnam and the end of the George W Bush presidency with Iraq and the financial crash. I wasn't alive for Vietnam, but back then there was only network news. So the country was divided, but that division wasn't actively stoked by either side. Plus, the war went from a Democratic administration to a Republican one. 2008/2009 with the financial crisis was bad, but not this bad IMO. Yeah, you have the OWS clowns in the park in NYC, and people were threatening bank executives. But the anger was directed primarily at bankers, Wall Street and politicians. Now, we have vitriol directed to other Americans based on political party. I don't think we've seen that since the days of abolitionists vs. anti-abolitionists. The New Deal? since you’re a person who rants about entitlement programs I’m surprised you left that out.
October 18, 20214 yr 17 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: The New Deal? since you’re a person who rants about entitlement programs I’m surprised you left that out. FDR had overwhelming majorities in Congress and strong public support. That comparison makes no sense. We are discussing times of societal divisions, not times when liberal idiots used a crisis to enact abhorrent, destructive policies destined to ruin the Republic.
October 18, 20214 yr 57 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Serious question - has there been anything in this country's history that has divided it more than COVID? Vietnam, maybe? I mean I guess the Civil War was a literal division, but I mean the current state of our country. 50 states. OJ verdict? That "is the dress blue/black or white/gold" meme that came out a few years back?
October 18, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: OJ verdict? That "is the dress blue/black or white/gold" meme that came out a few years back? The dress was clearly blue and anybody who thinks differently is a commie.
October 18, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: How is that dumb? There are plenty of vaccinated individuals who are acting as if the vaccine completely prevents transmission and serious illness. It doesn't. Everyone should be cautious. Where did you read that, blueanon? It’s dumb because you literally suggest that an 84 year old man with health conditions NOT take the best step to prevent infection (get vaccinated) and that he should "just be cautious” (by doing what exactly?) while you have gone on record also denying the science and effectiveness of masks which would be the next logical step to help prevent infection. You’re an absolute moron. Not even a halfway decent troll anymore. You’re just Fing stupid.
October 18, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The dress was clearly blue and anybody who thinks differently is a commie. whatevs, yanny!
October 18, 20214 yr http://jja-contents.wdc-jp.com/pdf/JJA74/74-1-open/74-1_44-95.pdf Quote Furthermore, by the 27th of February, the results of 42 clinical trials, including approximately 15,000 patients (both registered and unregistered studies) have been subjected to a meta-analysis after exclusion of biasing factors. It was found that 83% showed improvements with early treatment, 51% improved during late-stage treatment, and there was an 89% prevention of onset rate noted. This confirms the usefulness of ivermectin. Since it is a meta-analysis based on 42 test results, it is estimated that the probability of this comprehensive judgment being a mistake is as low as 1 in 4 trillion. In addition, two separate meta-analyses also showed the 46 （ 46 ） THE JAPANESE JOURNAL OF ANTIBIOTICS 74―1 Mar. 2021 usefulness of ivermectin and their conclusions were presented to the WHO and the US FDA with a request for an expansion of the indication of ivermectin in the treatment of COVID-19. Fantastic success of the drug across 42 different clinical trials. Awesome.
October 18, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The dress was clearly blue and anybody who thinks differently is a commie. 2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: whatevs, yanny! We really are a nation divided still.
October 18, 20214 yr 19 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: OJ verdict? That "is the dress blue/black or white/gold" meme that came out a few years back? Pretty much every civil rights issue?
October 18, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, DBW said: It’s dumb because you literally suggest that an 84 year old man with health conditions NOT take the best step to prevent infection (get vaccinated) and that he should "just be cautious” (by doing what exactly?) while you have gone on record also denying the science and effectiveness of masks which would be the next logical step to help prevent infection. You’re an absolute moron. Not even a halfway decent troll anymore. You’re just Fing stupid. Uhh, I absolutely didn't say that 84 year olds shouldn't get vaccinated. You can't read. I'm saying that there's a chance Powell had an unfortunate false sense of security because he got vaccinated causing him to be less careful than he would have if he were unvaccinated.
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