1 minute ago, Jsvand12 said:

Why would they be willing to take the rushed pill though if they weren’t willing to take the rushed vaccine? 

The vaccines have serious documented side effects that aren't present in the pill? I don't know, just spitballing here.

36 minutes ago, Jsvand12 said:

Just because there are quack doctors that are taking advantage of the dumb people does not make it efficacious. We actually have a "wellness” clinic near me that is doing it. Charging patients $500+ a pop for ivermectin and a vitamin infusion. Before covid they mainly pushed diet pills. 

Stop.  These are not "wellness" clinics.  These are reputable physicians with real practices.  The two instances I am aware of, the doctors charged ZERO.  The scripts were written before there was a concerted effort to have pharmacies block them and before Regeneron was widely available.

23 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Great news regarding the Pfizer pill:

Really think we need to focus on alternatives to the vaccine. Like it or not, young, healthy people are not going to sign up for unlimited jabs forever. Alternatives are the key. 

The ^idiots queefing about big pharma lining their pockets from a $20 vaccine are now head over heels for an oral treatment that's $500 for two pills. Only matter of time before those biotech giants won them over. Hate to see it, unless you're a shareholder, in which case, love to see it.

1 hour ago, Jsvand12 said:

Why would they be willing to take the rushed pill though if they weren’t willing to take the rushed vaccine? 

Because people are hesitant to take something for a condition they don't have. But they will take everything under the sun to cure something after they contract it.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure? Some folks won't prescribe to it.

I agree alternate treatments are important. I feel we've reached a brick wall where vaccines are concerned.

13 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Rogan with a fantastic guest, the esteemed Dr. Peter McCollough talking about the success of early treatment in reducing hospitalizations and deaths. Basically, our strategy of completely ignoring patients until their ill enough to need hospitalization has lead to countless unnecessary deaths.

 

Not true, we only ignored the dumb ones. The questionnaire on admission asked who won the election, and all the rubes who answered incorrectly were shoved into a closet and feed applesauce until they changed their answer.

3 minutes ago, Kz! said:

The vaccines have serious documented side effects that aren't present in the pill? I don't know, just spitballing here.

There will be series documented side effects of the pill too.  There are serious documented side effects of every drug.  Ibuprofen has caused heart failure.  And people like yourself will dig up stories about these serious side effects.  So, like he said, why would they take the pill if they're afraid to take the vaccine?

5 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

There will be series documented side effects of the pill too.  There are serious documented side effects of every drug.  Ibuprofen has caused heart failure.  And people like yourself will dig up stories about these serious side effects.  So, like he said, why would they take the pill if they're afraid to take the vaccine?

Yeah, comparing side effects of ibuprofen to the vaccine. lmao, I can tell this is going to be a productive argument.  

Just now, Kz! said:

Yeah, comparing side effects of ibuprofen to the vaccine. lmao, I can tell this is going to be a productive argument.  

Like I said, there are outliers with every drug, but obviously the vaccine is overwhelmingly safe.  You'd have to be functionally retarded to argue otherwise.   I mean, you've been vaxxed, for what, six months or so now?  And you're doing fine.

8 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Like I said, there are outliers with every drug, but obviously the vaccine is overwhelmingly safe.  You'd have to be functionally retarded to argue otherwise.   I mean, you've been vaxxed, for what, six months or so now?  And you're doing fine.

Agreed that the vaccine is safe the vast majority of the time. Where we run into problems is with the large segment of society that has almost no chance of having severe complications with Covid. The healthy-bodied under 40 crowd that, statistically, has almost no chance of becoming severely ill. Those are the folks that have to weigh the risks and rewards of getting an endless series of jabs. Obviously, the average CVONer being advanced in age and weight, it's a no-brainer for most to get the vaccine. 

Fortunately, with Omicron being very mild and also infecting triple vaxxed individuals at insanely high rates, the argument about vaccination is becoming a moot point. 

Wait what did Fauci just say? 

 

 

18 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Like I said, there are outliers with every drug, but obviously the vaccine is overwhelmingly safe.  You'd have to be functionally retarded to argue otherwise.   I mean, you've been vaxxed, for what, six months or so now?  And you're doing fine.

 

3 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Agreed that the vaccine is safe the vast majority of the time. Where we run into problems is with the large segment of society that has almost no chance of having severe complications with Covid. The healthy-bodied under 40 crowd that, statistically, has almost no chance of becoming severely ill. Those are the folks that have to weigh the risks and rewards of getting an endless series of jabs. Obviously, the average CVONer being advanced in age and weight, it's a no-brainer for most to get the vaccine. 

Fortunately, with Omicron being very mild and also infecting triple vaxxed individuals at insanely high rates, the argument about vaccination is becoming a moot point. 

Just now, VanHammersly said:

 

lmfao

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Agreed that the vaccine is safe the vast majority of the time. Where we run into problems is with the large segment of society that has almost no chance of having severe complications with Covid. The healthy-bodied under 40 crowd that, statistically, has almost no chance of becoming severely ill. Those are the folks that have to weigh the risks and rewards of getting an endless series of jabs. Obviously, the average CVONer being advanced in age and weight, it's a no-brainer for most to get the vaccine. 

Fortunately, with Omicron being very mild and also infecting triple vaxxed individuals at insanely high rates, the argument about vaccination is becoming a moot point. 

Nailed my productive argument prediction.  

 

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

lmfao

Nailed my productive argument prediction.  

  I think my favorite thing on here is when you pretend like you're interested in a real, substantive argument.

Just now, Ipiggles said:

 

Yes, the vaccines which were already horrible at preventing transmission and even worse after five months, appear to have almost no ability to stop Omicron transmission regardless of whether you've had the booster shot. This is why alternatives to the vaccine must be explored. 

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

  I think my favorite thing on here is when you pretend like you're interested in a real, substantive argument.

I feel like a laid out a pretty solid rationale for why a lot of people aren't interested in taking the vaccine while you called me retarded and bizarrely claimed I was vaccinated for some reason.  

1 hour ago, Kz! said:

Rogan with a fantastic guest, the esteemed Dr. Peter McCollough talking about the success of early treatment in reducing hospitalizations and deaths. Basically, our strategy of completely ignoring patients until their ill enough to need hospitalization has lead to countless unnecessary deaths.

 

so people won't get vaccinated, and they won't go to the doctor soon enough when they're sick. 

I say let Darwin have the unvaccinated and lazy.

Rogan is a stoonod.  I know plenty of people who sought testing and treatment, and some who were admitted, released, then re admitted.  I don't believe in any sort of early intervention.  My good friend had it was sent home and 2 days later was in an ambulance.   She survived after 12 days.  Friend that just died, same thing.  Sought treatment was sent home, only to go back in and fight for 19 days until he died.  Young It co worker barely in his 30's!!!!!!   Sought treatment at the ER and was sent home.  Rushed back in the following day, currently on a vent.

They only way I've seen this virus not get into your lungs is by getting a vaccine.  You won't convince me otherwise.  Go get vaccinated.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/14/pfizer-says-covid-19-pill-near-90percent-effective-in-final-analysis-.html

 

Pfizer on Tuesday said final analysis of its antiviral Covid-19 pill still showed near 90% efficacy in preventing hospitalizations and deaths in high-risk patients, and recent lab data suggests the drug retains its effectiveness against the fast-spreading omicron variant of the coronavirus.

1 minute ago, Boogyman said:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/14/pfizer-says-covid-19-pill-near-90percent-effective-in-final-analysis-.html

 

Pfizer on Tuesday said final analysis of its antiviral Covid-19 pill still showed near 90% efficacy in preventing hospitalizations and deaths in high-risk patients, and recent lab data suggests the drug retains its effectiveness against the fast-spreading omicron variant of the coronavirus.

So the people who manufacture and sell the pill are telling us it works? 

24 minutes ago, DiPros said:

Rogan is a stoonod.  I know plenty of people who sought testing and treatment, and some who were admitted, released, then re admitted.  I don't believe in any sort of early intervention.  My good friend had it was sent home and 2 days later was in an ambulance.   She survived after 12 days.  Friend that just died, same thing.  Sought treatment was sent home, only to go back in and fight for 19 days until he died.  Young It co worker barely in his 30's!!!!!!   Sought treatment at the ER and was sent home.  Rushed back in the following day, currently on a vent.

They only way I've seen this virus not get into your lungs is by getting a vaccine.  You won't convince me otherwise.  Go get vaccinated.

No.

12 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

So the people who manufacture and sell the pill are telling us it works? 

Yes. Exactly what you just read. They did trials and everything!

1 minute ago, Boogyman said:

Yes. Exactly what you just read. They did trials and everything!

Trials that we won't be able to see the results of for 75 years?  Sounds legit

2 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Trials that we won't be able to see the results of for 75 years?  Sounds legit

Did it say 75 years in the article? Maybe I read it to fast and I don't remember that part.

Since you are pretty in tune with this, what's the overall efficacy of Ivermectin when used to treat Covid?

Just now, Boogyman said:

Since you are pretty in tune with this, what's the overall efficacy of Ivermectin when used to treat Covid?

I don't know - I've never had Covid.  My immune system is too powerful to even allow the virus to enter my body.