1 minute ago, Kz! said:

And there's also a small chance of having a serious adverse reaction to the vaccine. Everything has risks. There's also been hundreds of thousands of "breakthrough" infections for people who have taken the vaccines, hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations, and tens of thousands of deaths of vaccinated individuals. All risks and there's no guarantee it'll keep you from dying of Covid. 

I'll take my chances with the vaccine Kz.  I think you are exaggerating the Number of hospitalizations and deaths among the vaccinated.

2 hours ago, Kz! said:

I feel like a laid out a pretty solid rationale for why a lot of people aren't interested in taking the vaccine while you called me retarded and bizarrely claimed I was vaccinated for some reason.  

Because you are. And I gotta say, this charade where you act like you haven't been yet to score some sort of bizarre political points with other random idiots is pretty F'ing weird.

4 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Not sure what your specific health has to do with the effectiveness of a covid treatment.

 

Don't get covid, don't need treatment.  I would have thought that was obvious.

6 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Not sure what your specific health has to do with the effectiveness of a covid treatment. Its probably, like most of your original thoughts, irrelevant. You should go back to piggy backing off every Kz says. While it does make you look like a simp, at least you won't have to try so hard.

 

OK man.  Why don't you tell us again how you're "retired" from your job as shift manager at Wendy's while your wife brings home the bacon?  LOL

2 minutes ago, DiPros said:

I'll take my chances with the vaccine Kz.  I think you are exaggerating the Number of hospitalizations and deaths among the vaccinated.

Nope, feel free to look it up. The data is likely an undercount as well. 

6 minutes ago, DiPros said:

My co worker is in great shape in his 30's and is fighting for his life.  It's the wrong attitude to have.  There's not much else to say is there?

If true, your coworker is an extreme outlier and incredibly unlucky.

Just now, mikemack8 said:

Don't get covid, don't need treatment.  I would have thought that was obvious.

A person not needing a specific treatment has no bearing on the overall effectiveness of said treatment. That's like saying antibiotics are not effective because a person without an infection doesn't need to take them.

 

In other words, stop arguing with such intense stupidity.

2 hours ago, toolg said:

Because people are hesitant to take something for a condition they don't have. But they will take everything under the sun to cure something after they contract it.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure? Some folks won't prescribe to it.

I agree alternate treatments are important. I feel we've reached a brick wall where vaccines are concerned.

This. People won't take a free vaccine because they aren't sick and would rather listen to idiots.

Once they get sick? Different ballgame.

Therapeutics were always the missing piece to get us out of this.  

3 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Don't get covid, don't need treatment.  I would have thought that was obvious.

This has been my strat and it's going really, really well.

Just now, Boogyman said:

A person not needing a specific treatment has no bearing on the overall effectiveness of said treatment. That's like saying antibiotics are not effective because a person without an infection doesn't need to take them.

 

In other words, stop arguing with such intense stupidity.

I'm not arguing anything, idiot.  I'm just pointing out how hilarious it is that all these pharmaceuticals keep telling us how effective all these treatments are, and you idiots keep lapping it all up.  First it was that the vaccines were 90+% effective, then you needed a booster, then a second booster.  Now there's a pill.  LMAO - it's never going to end.  

Just now, mikemack8 said:

OK man.  Why don't you tell us again how you're "retired" from your job as shift manager at Wendy's while your wife brings home the bacon?  LOL

Chemical operator. Good job, long hours and very physical work.

And wife doesn't need to bring anything home as she works from home as director of quality for, coincidentally enough, a pharmaceutical company that is developing vaccines.

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

I'm not arguing anything, idiot.  I'm just pointing out how hilarious it is that all these pharmaceuticals keep telling us how effective all these treatments are, and you idiots keep lapping it all up.  First it was that the vaccines were 90+% effective, then you needed a booster, then a second booster.  Now there's a pill.  LMAO - it's never going to end.  

I posted an article in the appropriate thread, Slappy. One scale from one to triggered, you get triggered extremely easily. But keep ranting, it's always fun to watch an excited little lapdog hopping all over the place like a ****.

2 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Chemical operator. Good job, long hours and very physical work.

And wife doesn't need to bring anything home as she works from home as director of quality for, coincidentally enough, a pharmaceutical company that is developing vaccines.

Yeah - I don't care.  Go away

3 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

A person not needing a specific treatment has no bearing on the overall effectiveness of said treatment. That's like saying antibiotics are not effective because a person without an infection doesn't need to take them.

 

In other words, stop arguing with such intense stupidity.

lol wtf? Anytime this dude actually tries to engage, he comes off as completely handicapped. This is why he probably sticks to being an obnoxious pest most of the time rather than actually discussing things. 

Just now, Kz! said:

lol wtf? Anytime this dude actually tries to engage, he comes off as completely handicapped. This is why he probably sticks to being an obnoxious pest most of the time rather than actually discussing things. 

Beavis is here to bail out Butthead! LOVE to see it!

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

Yeah - I don't care.  Go away

 

4 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I'm not arguing anything, idiot.  I'm just pointing out how hilarious it is that all these pharmaceuticals keep telling us how effective all these treatments are, and you idiots keep lapping it all up.  First it was that the vaccines were 90+% effective, then you needed a booster, then a second booster.  Now there's a pill.  LMAO - it's never going to end.  

This is quite the departure from Kz lauding paxlovid earlier this morning. Now it's back to being a big pharma scam already? Sounds like you guys need to realign to make sure you're both on the same page going forward.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

This is quite the departure from Kz lauding paxlovid earlier this morning. Now it's back to being a big pharma scam already? Sounds like you guys need to realign to make sure you're both on the same page going forward.

Yeah, they forgot to send a few PMs back and forth before posting and didn't get their stances straight. 

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

lol wtf? Anytime this dude actually tries to engage, he comes off as completely handicapped. This is why he probably sticks to being an obnoxious pest most of the time rather than actually discussing things. 

  a little too on the nose there, Cletus

Ahh the daddy issue/little man alliance. Quite formidable.   

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

This. People won't take a free vaccine because they aren't sick and would rather listen to idiots.

Once they get sick? Different ballgame.

Therapeutics were always the missing piece to get us out of this.  

Really though we are out of it, seems the vaccines prevent serious illness even for omicron, the ones that are really in it still are unvaxxed. These Blue state have to stop with blanket mask mandates and leave it to local areas.

18 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Really though we are out of it, seems the vaccines prevent serious illness even for omicron, the ones that are really in it still are unvaxxed. These Blue state have to stop with blanket mask mandates and leave it to local areas.

Agree 100%. We have to stop bending over backwards to protect idiots from the consequences of their own choices. Just let insurance stop paying for treatment for the unvaccinated already.

15 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Really though we are out of it, seems the vaccines prevent serious illness even for omicron, the ones that are really in it still are unvaxxed. These Blue state have to stop with blanket mask mandates and leave it to local areas.

Problem is, even though our individual risk may be low for those of us who are boosted, governors are still in a predicament due to how transmissible omicron is. So far, it's looking like the net effect is a wash from what little we know so far, which means overwhelmed hospitals are still an issue they have to deal with. Looking like this may not end up being the deus ex machina we were all hoping for.

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

I'm not arguing anything, idiot.  I'm just pointing out how hilarious it is that all these pharmaceuticals keep telling us how effective all these treatments are, and you idiots keep lapping it all up.  First it was that the vaccines were 90+% effective, then you needed a booster, then a second booster.  Now there's a pill.  LMAO - it's never going to end.  

Yeah it's totally weird how pharmaceutical companies would attempt to produce vaccines and treatments for a virus causing a global pandemic.

Must be a conspiracy.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Agree 100%. We have to stop bending over backwards to protect idiots from the consequences of their own choices. Just let insurance stop paying for treatment for the unvaccinated already.

Medicare should stop covering Covid treatments for the unvaccinated.

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Problem is, even though our individual risk may be low for those of us who are boosted, governors are still in a predicament due to how transmissible omicron is. So far, it's looking like the net effect is a wash from what little we know so far, which means overwhelmed hospitals are still an issue they have to deal with. Looking like this may not end up being the deus ex machina we were all hoping for.

Yes Hospitals overwhelmed because of the unvaxxed, they need to be punished and not everyone, looks like in Toronto they may not allow fans again even the vaxxed, things like this are going to get people mad and what happens is right wing loons will get voted in all over, Apple stores now limiting occupancy again for everyone. Time to stop treating the unvaxxed and vaxxed alike

14 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Problem is, even though our individual risk may be low for those of us who are boosted, governors are still in a predicament due to how transmissible omicron is. So far, it's looking like the net effect is a wash from what little we know so far, which means overwhelmed hospitals are still an issue they have to deal with. Looking like this may not end up being the deus ex machina we were all hoping for.

Prioritize the responsible people who got vaccinated for hospital beds. 

Problem solved.