February 7, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Sure, but it's not 0.02% either. And everyone who didn't have to repeat the 3rd grade understands that. It's a lot closer to .02 than it is to 1.2. Big L for little guys who rely on virus stats in lieu of having a real personality.
February 7, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Kz! said: It's a lot closer to .02 than it is to 1.2. Big L for little guys who rely on virus stats in lieu of having a real personality. Only a mathematically illiterate moron, such as yourself, would ever suggest .02% is the CFR when it's literally impossible to be that low.
February 7, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Only a mathematically illiterate moron, such as yourself, would ever suggest .02% is the CFR when it's literally impossible to be that low.
February 7, 20223 yr For the 900k deaths to result in a CFR of 0.02%, the total population of the US would have to be 4.5B people instead of 330M, and that's only under the assumption that every single person was infected. So yeah, another example of how lifelong brain damage strikes Mr. Lonely yet again. Not that we needed further confirmation.
February 7, 20223 yr Oh right, and even if only 10% were "from" covid, you'd still be wrong. Look, we get it, you're bad at math and reading and basically anything that requires a base level of executive or cognitive brain function. No need to belabor the point.
February 7, 20223 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Oh right, and even if only 10% were "from" covid, you'd still be wrong. Look, we get it, you're bad at math and reading and basically anything that requires a base level of executive or cognitive brain function. No need to belabor the point. He's so mad.
February 7, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Procus said: What's missing with all of this? How come we're not bombarded with basic treatment protocol at the first sign of infection? The fatal flaw in your take is the blatant disregard for compassionate treatment of illness. I imagine you believe that if you're sick with the virus, maybe really sick, and you're at home - that there's nothing you can do. I disagree. At the end of the day, we're a compassionate people and we want the sick to heal. We are really dropping the ball big time on this. Because people regularly delay treatment when they're sick. It's better overall for people to prepare themselves and their immune system to quickly fight off infection than to rely on patients to recognize symptoms early and begin an aggressive treatment protocol. The latter just doesn't happen. And because the latter doesn't happen, especially among those who are unvaccinated, you see hospitals overrun with patients - the majority of which are both unvaccinated AND have already delated treatment ruling out early intervention options. Hell my tenant almost lost both her parents because they were too obstinate about both getting vaccinated AND going to the hospital. They rode it out at home and almost died in the process. She was frustrated beyond belief.
February 7, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Hell my tenant almost lost both her parents because they were too obstinate about both getting vaccinated AND going to the hospital. They rode it out at home and almost died in the process. She was frustrated beyond belief. Choice
February 7, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Choice Exactly. This is why death counts are up. The virus has gotten more contagious, which has offset the fact that it's generally less severe. Meaning even if chances of a severe case went from 3% to 1.5%, it is more than offset by the fact that cases are more than double what they might have been with Delta's reproduction number. I am at the point where I couldn't care less if idiots decide they still think the risks associated with the vaccine outweigh the risks of catching 'rona. But I don't want them overwhelming hospitals that are already getting hammered. Start charging a premium if you're not vaccinated, and Medicare should just stop paying for treatment of unvaccinated. Or, ya know, people could stop virtue signaling about not getting vaxxed and just accept the fact that both they and the healthcare community will be better off if everybody who could get vaxxed did. But that's not gonna happen.
February 7, 20223 yr https://www.oann.com/cdc-data-reveals-vaccines-are-killing-far-more-children-than-china-virus-itself/ CDC data reveals vaccines are killing far more children than China virus itself
February 7, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, Procus said: https://www.oann.com/cdc-data-reveals-vaccines-are-killing-far-more-children-than-china-virus-itself/ CDC data reveals vaccines are killing far more children than China virus itself Not buying it until this report is corroborated by newsmaxx and Infowars.
February 7, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: Not buying it until this report is corroborated by newsmaxx and Infowars. Also need Tucker to weigh in when he’s done sucking off Putin.
February 8, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Exactly. This is why death counts are up. The virus has gotten more contagious, which has offset the fact that it's generally less severe. Meaning even if chances of a severe case went from 3% to 1.5%, it is more than offset by the fact that cases are more than double what they might have been with Delta's reproduction number. I am at the point where I couldn't care less if idiots decide they still think the risks associated with the vaccine outweigh the risks of catching 'rona. But I don't want them overwhelming hospitals that are already getting hammered. Start charging a premium if you're not vaccinated, and Medicare should just stop paying for treatment of unvaccinated. Or, ya know, people could stop virtue signaling about not getting vaxxed and just accept the fact that both they and the healthcare community will be better off if everybody who could get vaxxed did. But that's not gonna happen. Death counts have more to do about lifestyle choices than they do about the US / China designed virus. Most related deaths included no less than 6 accompanying comorbidities to result in those deaths. I don't care if you or anyone else is "sick to death" of hearing about the risk of the treatment being worse than the disease. To me it is more risk. I've had it. It's effect unnoticeable to anyone but me. Other would know they had it unless they were tested. No risk to that whatsoever. Those treatments side effects pose more risk than that up to and including death. Ironic you have an issue about that virtue signaling considering some of you people can't shut the F up about getting or being vaccinated. Happy for you. Glad you survived it. As soon as people who are fat, drink, smoke pot or cigarettes, eat prepared foods, sky dive, mountain climb, drag race, etc are all surcharged you can count me in comrade. You know what you're really going to get tired of hearing about as time goes on? How much you've allowed yourself to be lied to.
February 8, 20223 yr Nothing being hidden here.... In yet another delay, a Federal Judge issued an order that grants the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) another month to comply with a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request that requires the agency to begin turning over all of the 450,000-plus documents that were analyzed in its decision to approve Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine.
February 8, 20223 yr Socialists (Democrats): ‘Workers of the world unite!’ Canadian truckers: ‘We’re here!’ Socialists (Democrats): ‘Insurrection! Arrest them!’
February 8, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, The_Omega said: Socialists (Democrats): ‘Workers of the world unite!’ Canadian truckers: ‘We’re here!’ Socialists (Democrats): ‘Insurrection! Arrest them!’ Protesting and blowing airhorns all day in residential areas are two different things. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/injunction-ottawa-granted-1.6342468 And I don't think there's a single person here who's advocated for socialism. Though elements of socialism ARE imbued in Trump's economic populism.
February 8, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Protesting and blowing airhorns all day in residential areas are two different things. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/injunction-ottawa-granted-1.6342468 And I don't think there's a single person here who's advocated for socialism. Though elements of socialism ARE imbued in Trump's economic populism. A literal Bernie bro posts here, ****.
February 8, 20223 yr Wonder if all the HIV is because our servicemen are getting buttf***ed in the Netherlands... Quote Researchers discover HIV variant that's more contagious and more severe circulating in the Netherlands https://www.businessinsider.com/scientists-discover-hiv-variant-more-contagious-more-severe-2022-2
February 8, 20223 yr Quote Dr. Dorit Nitzan explains the difference between Omicron and the new sub-variant, and why there may be bigger issues at hand. While the original Omicron variant first detected in South Africa in late November is still the dominant virus strain in most countries, others are starting to worry about a new sub-variant that has been halting the downward trend in infections – the BA.2 sub-variant. One of three Omicron sub-variants, BA.2 has become the main strain circulating in several countries including Denmark, the UK, India and South Africa. According to a February 3 Financial Times report on the sub-variant, it has as many as 27 mutations that are not found in the original Omicron variant, BA.1. But is this enough to make it a real threat to countries still struggling to recover from the Omicron wave and the unprecedented rate of infections it caused? Public health bodies in both Denmark and the UK have determined the variant to be between 30%-34% more infectious than BA.1, according to the Times, and the UK designated BA.2 to be a variant under investigation back in mid-January. The World Health Organization is also currently investigating it as a Variant of Concern, as they are with all Omicron sub-lineages. Speaking to The Jerusalem Post, Dr. Dorit Nitzan, the WHO's regional emergency director, explained the expected trajectory of the sub-variant, and what it could mean for the future of the pandemic. "The expected trajectory is that it will become the new dominant variant, as once it crosses past a certain threshold it becomes dominant – like we’re seeing in Denmark and the UK,” she said in answer to whether or not other countries can expect to see a similar rise in sub-variant cases in the coming weeks. In terms of the similarities and differences between BA.1 and BA.2, Nitzan explained that the most prominent difference right now is the transmissibility of the sub-variant. However, she said, there does not seem to be a risk of reinfection for those who have already contracted the original Omicron variant, as the two variants are not different enough, although there is not yet enough research to be certain. "It moves from person to person much faster,” she explained. "If you’re with someone in a room who has the virus, you will get it. The moment you take your mask off to drink and eat – you never know when you’ll get it. We can see this in Denmark – it moves so quickly.” Regarding the incubation period – the time between contracting the virus and becoming sick – some people have reported a shorter incubation period of just two to three days after exposure. Others have reported unusually long incubation periods, sometimes taking up to two weeks for symptoms to show after exposure. Nitzan said it’s hard to get an accurate reading of the incubation period in places like the UK and Denmark because so many people are carrying the virus, and a positive case can often not be traced to one specific point of infection. Other than the increased transmissibility of BA.2, she said there are not many significant differences that have been found during initial research into the variant. "There are three main sub-types of Omicron: the original, BA.2 and BA.3, and we are following them and need to be aware of them and to learn more about them,” Nitzan said, before explaining why there are bigger concerns than just one or two Omicron sub-variants. "What we will probably see in Europe is that most of the mutations and changes in the virus will occur now within the Omicron tree, but in the meantime, under our noses in Africa and other places that have no access to vaccines, we might have totally different variants developing right now," she said. "I think that Omicron right now is not the mega-issue. We have to focus on allowing and ensuring vaccine access in other parts of the world.” IN SOME places, 80% of the most vulnerable population have yet to receive even one vaccine, the WHO regional director explained, adding that it would be impossible to say what variants are developing in these areas of the world and to know whether they could be similar to Delta or even worse. "Virus mutations occur in the immunodeficient, and these countries have a lot of malnutrition and chronic or communicable diseases like HIV/AIDS," she said. "And these are the people that the virus likes to stay with for a longer time – their body gives fertile ground to the variants. That’s why we need to focus on them.” Does this mean countries trying to get the variant under control are wasting their time? "It’s good to focus on other variants [like BA.2],” she stressed. "We still need to save lives here and now and we need to do whatever we can to protect ourselves and allow the health services to take care of all who need them, not just those with coronavirus.” At the same time, however, she added, "We need to lend a shoulder to the rest of the world, and that will protect us too.” Asked if the vaccine shortages in developing countries means that Omicron and the subsequent BA.2 variant will not mean the "end of the pandemic” as many have been suggesting, Nitzan was skeptical, saying it could be, but only if the rest of the world is provided with the vaccines they are currently lacking. "Omicron gives us hope [for the end of the pandemic] but this is a window of opportunity for us to take care of the rest of the world," she said. "If we do it quickly and in the right way, Omicron could lead us to the end of the pandemic, but if we keep focusing on ourselves and not on the rest of the world, we will not be able to call it the endgame yet.” In conclusion, she said that countries are correct to be vigilant when it comes to the Omicron sub-variants, but there is no use hoping that they signal the end of the pandemic while vulnerable people still lack access to vaccines. "It’s very important that we do everything we need to do locally, but we also have to care globally," Nitzan said. "I don’t think we should stop what we’re doing, but it’s not enough – and we can’t defend ourselves without protecting the rest of the world.” https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/article-695666
February 8, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Protesting and blowing airhorns all day in residential areas are two different things. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/injunction-ottawa-granted-1.6342468 And I don't think there's a single person here who's advocated for socialism. Though elements of socialism ARE imbued in Trump's economic populism.
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