41 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

The study was conducted by researchers affiliated with Stanford University, and was co-authored by Jay Bhattacharya, a professor of medicine and economics who has been a vocal opponent of coronavirus lockdowns since March.

For additional context, other studies have oppositely determined that lockdown orders have effectively saved millions of lives.

A study published in the journal Nature by researchers at Imperial College London in June found that some 3.1 million deaths had been averted due to lockdowns across Europe early on in the pandemic.

 KZ's fact checking process in a nutshell:

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

The study was conducted by researchers affiliated with Stanford University, and was co-authored by Jay Bhattacharya, a professor of medicine and economics who has been a vocal opponent of coronavirus lockdowns since March.

For additional context, other studies have oppositely determined that lockdown orders have effectively saved millions of lives.

A study published in the journal Nature by researchers at Imperial College London in June found that some 3.1 million deaths had been averted due to lockdowns across Europe early on in the pandemic.

Umm, yes, the point of the post is that the media is now advertising these studies that would have been considered heresy just a few weeks ago.

Just now, Kz! said:

Umm, yes, the point of the post is that the media is now advertising these studies that would have been considered heresy just a few weeks ago.

Which studies?  Your article didn't mention any other studies besides this one and studies that showed the opposite.  And this study was published on January 5. 

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Umm, yes, the point of the post is that the media is now advertising these studies that would have been considered heresy just a few weeks ago.

 

1 hour ago, Kz! said:

Reminder: Anyone saying this a couple of months ago was called a conspiracy theorist.

Reminder: Dems are beneath contempt.

Looking at the PA statewide graph of daily cases, I see clear dropoffs in cases corresponding to the periods of major shutdowns. I don't know what your definition of "work" is, but they certainly provide mitigation. You don't even need a graph to show it; it's common sense.

6 hours ago, Toastrel said:

 

How not surprising.

Republicans: the virus is fake, it doesn’t exist, it’s a democratic sham

also republicans: that vaccine belongs to me.

F your party and your criminal president Kkz.  You can’t really defend this so don’t even try 

So, sad news about a guy I worked with years ago when I was in college and he was in high school. We coincidentally attended the same school but I think he was a freshman the year I graduated, so I didn't really know him in school. Anyway, while I didn't know him too well personally and hadn't seen him in over a decade, he was a fun, friendly guy and I definitely interacted with him a lot at work. We were friends on FB still after all this time, too. He actually ended up marrying the sister of one of my girlfriend's close friends from the time period, too, so he didn't feel like a very remote figure in any case. Anyway, I just heard the news today that he's dead from COVID at age 30.

6 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Why is she listening to dance music while she talks?  Bad decision.  

Pop lock and drop it

6 hours ago, PoconoDon said:

Thanks. It was hard to do, but I'm glad I did it. I was feeling a lot better too...until COVID...lol. Ah to hell with it. I won't let that do me in either. I have too much yet to do.

I'm about a month and a 1/2 into quitting smoking after 20 years myself. Still have moments and days where I want to smoke but, Ive held off so far

9 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I have no idea what you just said.  

 

21 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

So, sad news about a guy I worked with years ago when I was in college and he was in high school. We coincidentally attended the same school but I think he was a freshman the year I graduated, so I didn't really know him in school. Anyway, while I didn't know him too well personally and hadn't seen him in over a decade, he was fun guy and I definitely interacted with him a lot at work. We were friends on FB still after all this time, too. He actually ended up marrying the sister of one of my girlfriend's close friends from the time period, too, so he didn't feel like a very remote figure in any case. Anyway, I just heard the news today that he's dead from COVID at age 30.

Sorry to hear man, that’s brutal, 30 is way too young. 

2 minutes ago, BirdsFanBill said:

Sorry to hear man, that’s brutal, 30 is way too young. 

Thanks. I'm ok, but it's definitely saddening. He was always a bit overweight and seemed to have packed on a bit more over the years, so he likely fell into the pre-existing condition category, but it's shocking nonetheless.

1 hour ago, DBW said:

Republicans: the virus is fake, it doesn’t exist, it’s a democratic sham

also republicans: that vaccine belongs to me.

F your party and your criminal president Kkz.  You can’t really defend this so don’t even try 

I think you may be reading the story incorrectly.  The vaccine is also available in blue areas of the state, such as at hospitals.  Per the article, these are going to Publix locations that their areas have weaker hospitals.

38 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I'm about a month and a 1/2 into quitting smoking after 20 years myself. Still have moments and days where I want to smoke but, Ive held off so far

Good for you brother. Stick with it. It's worth it in the long run. Two things from my experience so far. First, the cravings come less frequently over time and they actually do get less strong, although that took over a year for me. Second, when I put down the lighter, I picked up a fork. I still have 15 lbs. of fat I don't need, but it's better than smoking.

9 minutes ago, PoconoDon said:

Good for you brother. Stick with it. It's worth it in the long run. Two things from my experience so far. First, the cravings come less frequently over time and they actually do get less strong, although that took over a year for me. Second, when I put down the lighter, I picked up a fork. I still have 15 lbs. of fat I don't need, but it's better than smoking.

Funny, I was about to say that when I quit successfully, exercising regularly helped me do it. Needed my lungs for something else. 

16 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said:

I think you may be reading the story incorrectly.  The vaccine is also available in blue areas of the state, such as at hospitals.  Per the article, these are going to Publix locations that their areas have weaker hospitals.

I think you can’t read.

the headline literally:  As of now, Publix is only offering vaccine in Florida counties won by Republicans

11 minutes ago, PoconoDon said:

Good for you brother. Stick with it. It's worth it in the long run. Two things from my experience so far. First, the cravings come less frequently over time and they actually do get less strong, although that took over a year for me. Second, when I put down the lighter, I picked up a fork. I still have 15 lbs. of fat I don't need, but it's better than smoking.

Thank you. It's weird, I'll go almost a whole day and kind of forget I ever smoked. Then randomly on another day I'll go looking for a pack of cigarettes and be like sheet they don't exist lol. 

1 minute ago, DBW said:

I think you can’t read.

the headline literally:  As of now, Publix is only offering vaccine in Florida counties won by Republicans

Neither of you can read it says they are taking over your mind in all counties!

7 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Funny, I was about to say that when I quit successfully, exercising regularly helped me do it. Needed my lungs for something else. 

That's a very good way to do it. For my part, my exercise regimen isn't what it used to be thanks to a couple or worn out discs in my lower back, and the COVID recovery is still ongoing, so at this point, I'm happy it's only 15 lbs. lol.

1 minute ago, DBW said:

The data isn’t lying.  More Republican counties across the country have the vaccine than democratic counties.  That’s not a coincidence.  Trump knows they didn’t have enough vaccines and wanted to set the table so he can say that Biden failed us.  Biden, playing 12th dimension chess knows this and calls for all the vaccines to be released, which he did today and the response from the fed gov was "we don’t have any 2nd dose allocations.”  
 

Don’t act like the vaccine distribution that is being run by trumps admin wasn’t a political move.  You’re smarter than that.
 

I hope my mom who had a liver transplant and is a nurse can get her vaccine before the NBA.  

Why you yelling at me bro? I wasn't in this argument I was just making a joke lol

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Why you yelling at me bro? I wasn't in this argument I was just making a joke lol

😆 I deleted it anyway I wasn’t paying attention to who it was 😆 

1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

So, sad news about a guy I worked with years ago when I was in college and he was in high school. We coincidentally attended the same school but I think he was a freshman the year I graduated, so I didn't really know him in school. Anyway, while I didn't know him too well personally and hadn't seen him in over a decade, he was a fun, friendly guy and I definitely interacted with him a lot at work. We were friends on FB still after all this time, too. He actually ended up marrying the sister of one of my girlfriend's close friends from the time period, too, so he didn't feel like a very remote figure in any case. Anyway, I just heard the news today that he's dead from COVID at age 30.

That sucks, sorry.

25 minutes ago, DBW said:

I think you can’t read.

the headline literally:  As of now, Publix is only offering vaccine in Florida counties won by Republicans

Yes, it’s offered at Publix in 12 counties.  Those 12 counties happen to be counties that were red.  The headline, while technically correct, is misleading as Publix in those counties aren’t getting the vaccine because they voted republican.  They are getting the vaccine and happen to vote republican.  Below is a picture of the 2020 election and how the counties voted in Florida.  As you can see, there are far more than 12 counties that were red.  The reason those Publix in those 12 counties are getting the vaccine, as stated in the article, is because of the weaker hospitals in those areas.

3 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said:

Yes, it’s offered at Publix in 12 counties.  Those 12 counties happen to be counties that were red.  The headline, while technically correct, is misleading as Publix in those counties aren’t getting the vaccine because they voted republican.  They are getting the vaccine and happen to vote republican.  Below is a picture of the 2020 election and how the counties voted in Florida.  As you can see, there are far more than 12 counties that were red.  The reason those Publix in those 12 counties are getting the vaccine, as stated in the article, is because of the weaker hospitals in those areas.

Did any Publix in democratic counties get the vaccines because of weak hospitals though? 🤔 

 

Just now, DBW said:

Did any Publix in democratic counties get the vaccines because of weak hospitals though? 🤔 

 

They didn’t, the article stated why those Publix were given the vaccine.  Again, only 12 of 67 counties have the vaccine at a Publix.  There are vaccines at other places (such as hospitals).  Those 12 counties were picked because of their weak hospital.  You’re reading a headline and stuck on something that happens to be true and then trying to come up with a reason.  You’re ignoring the reason that is given.

Think of it this way, let’s say the Eagles win 95% of the time that they run the ball 25 times.  It doesn’t mean running the ball 25 increases their chance to win, otherwise, why not just run on the first 25 plays?