February 14, 20214 yr Yes thank you. That last sentence is so disappointing and PA seems very unorganized. Hopeful this will change once Levine is out to her new job.
February 14, 20214 yr Some reports trickling in of people getting infected more than 2 weeks after their second dose. Which serves as a reminder that 95% is not 100%. Everyone should still sign up to get it when it's available. Not a silver bullet, but pretty damn close.
February 14, 20214 yr 11 hours ago, Green Dog said: Who said I was surprised? With DeSantis, probably the most inept and corrupt governor we have, they had policies and guidelines put in place down there specifically designed to hinder medical workers and literally to help increase the spread of the virus. DeSantis even sent armed officials to a doctors house who wouldn't lie about covid statistics that made him look bad to Trump. Luckily that article is from July, and with Biden's new policies starting to get put into action things should improve. I think I read the other day their daily counts (cases and deaths) were finally going down. Btw, make sure you get registered for your vaccine. Stay safe! So looking to go to Florida next Sunday
February 14, 20214 yr 14 hours ago, Dave Moss said: Did you ever wonder why you don’t need vaccines for things like polio or tuberculosis? Both are making a comeback.
February 14, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, lynched1 said: Both are making a comeback. Good thing there are vaccines then.
February 14, 20214 yr 6 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Some reports trickling in of people getting infected more than 2 weeks after their second dose. Which serves as a reminder that 95% is not 100%. Everyone should still sign up to get it when it's available. Not a silver bullet, but pretty damn close. Never ending
February 14, 20214 yr 6 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Some reports trickling in of people getting infected more than 2 weeks after their second dose. Which serves as a reminder that 95% is not 100%. In the UK they are reporting that it takes 2 weeks for both doses to take full effect. But also yeah as you say, 95% is not 100%. But nor is the flu.
February 14, 20214 yr https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/02/10/us/houston-doctor-fired-covid-vaccine.amp.html Doctor fired for giving vaccines to not waste them before they expired. "The officials maintained that he had violated protocol and should have returned the remaining doses to the office or thrown them away, the doctor recalled. He also said that one of the officials startled him by questioning the lack of "equity” among those he had vaccinated. Are you suggesting that there were too many Indian names in that group?” Dr. Gokal said he asked. Exactly, he said he was told." He had 6 hours. "The hours were counting down. The doctor figured that if he returned the open vial to his department’s almost certainly empty office at this late hour, it would go to waste. So as he started the drive to his home in a neighboring county, he said, he called people in his cellphone’s contact list to ask whether they had older relatives or neighbors needing to be immunized. "No one I was really intimately familiar with,” Dr. Gokal said. "I wasn’t that close to anyone.” When he reached his home in Sugar Land, waiting outside were a woman in her mid-60s with cardiac issues, and a woman in her early 70s with assorted health problems. He inoculated both. Eight doses to go. The doctor got back in his car — his wife insisted on going with him — and drove to a Sugar Land house with four eligible people: a man in his late 60s with health issues; the man’s bed-bound mother, in her 90s; his mother-in-law, in her mid-80s and with severe dementia; and his wife, her mother’s caregiver. He then drove to the home of a housebound woman in her late 70s and administered the vaccine. "I didn’t know her at all,” he said. Three doses remained, but three people had agreed to meet the doctor at his home. Two were already waiting: a distant acquaintance in her mid-50s who works at a health clinic’s front desk, and a 40-ish woman he had never met whose child relies on a ventilator. As midnight approached, Dr. Gokal said, the third would-be recipient called to say that he wouldn’t be coming: too late. Tired and frustrated, Dr. Gokal said that he turned to his wife, whose pulmonary sarcoidosis made her eligible for the vaccine. "I didn’t intend to give this to you, but in a half-hour I’m going to have to dump this down the toilet,” he recalled telling her. "It’s as simple as that.”
February 15, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, NOTW said: Doctor fired for giving vaccines to not waste them before they expired. Yeah but, if none of those people had appointments for the 2nd dose wouldn't what he did be useless?
February 15, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Yeah but, if none of those people had appointments for the 2nd dose wouldn't what he did be useless? Idk, they could get appointments? He acted fast, rather than throw them away. At least he tried. 🤷♂️
February 15, 20214 yr On 2/14/2021 at 7:01 AM, Phillyterp85 said: The last great Pandemic occurred in 1918 and was known as the Spanish Flu. If you want to get the story on the Spanish Flu, read The Invisible Rainbow, it was written by someone who lived through it. Long story short, the first to come down with the symptoms were the troops returning from WW I who had all been vaccinated before going over seas to fight in the war. Mandatory vaccinations of the same vaccine that were given to the troops were put in place, everybody that had the vaccination started dropping like flies, those that didn't have the vaccine had no issues. There were two more factors involved, the 11 year cycle of Sun spots which emits solar waves (electrical waves) and the introduction of radio waves. Apparently the electrical pollution coupled with the vaccine were the culprits of the Spanish Flu. This is why many are looking at Cinco-G as a culprit for COVID-19. That wavelength causes what's known as electroporation which opens the membrane of your cell which in turn lets the vaccination serum enter your cell causing the symptoms. In The Invisible Rainbow, the writer stated how family members went from house to house caring for those with the flu and non of them got ill, it wasn't a contagion. Florence Nightingale also wrote about how the idea of contagions is flat out false as well as many virologist today.
February 15, 20214 yr On 2/9/2021 at 1:26 PM, Kz! said: Is there any lower form of life than people who harass others about masks? Yes. Trump supporters.
February 15, 20214 yr On 2/14/2021 at 9:08 AM, we_gotta_believe said: Some reports trickling in of people getting infected more than 2 weeks after their second dose. Which serves as a reminder that 95% is not 100%. Everyone should still sign up to get it when it's available. Not a silver bullet, but pretty damn close. So far no one who has been vaccinated has needed to be hospitalized if they do get covid, and no one has died. Good enough for me.
February 15, 20214 yr Eager to protect more people against the coronavirus, health officials in Oklahoma jumped at the chance to add large, federally supported vaccination sites. They wanted them in Oklahoma City, Tulsa and a third, mid-size city, Lawton, thinking the extra help would allow them to send more doses to smaller communities that had yet to benefit. "We felt like if we could get them in the metro areas, what that would allow us to do is ... free up a lot of our other resources to do more targeted vaccinations in underserved areas,” said state Deputy Health Commissioner Keith Reed. Those plans are now on hold after the state learned that the sites would not come with additional vaccines. Instead, the doses would have to be pulled from the state’s existing allocation, and the three sites alone might have used more than half of Oklahoma’s vaccine supply. "We’re not prepared to pull the trigger on it unless it comes with vaccine,” Reed said.
February 15, 20214 yr On 2/13/2021 at 9:40 PM, Green Dog said: Who said I was surprised? With DeSantis, probably the most inept and corrupt governor we have, they had policies and guidelines put in place down there specifically designed to hinder medical workers and literally to help increase the spread of the virus. DeSantis even sent armed officials to a doctors house who wouldn't lie about covid statistics that made him look bad to Trump. Luckily that article is from July, and with Biden's new policies starting to get put into action things should improve. I think I read the other day their daily counts (cases and deaths) were finally going down. Btw, make sure you get registered for your vaccine. Stay safe! Hold the phone, just saw this. So I did nail it: On 2/12/2021 at 3:27 PM, Kz! said: You'll have to forgive me, but I've been wrecking braindead leftists all day and it's left me a little exhausted. What exactly is your point with the link? That the governor is responsible for false positives? Or that false positives are somehow as bad as ordering your staff to intentionally suppress nursing home deaths? I really hope that's not your point, because if it is, wow. You think DeSantis intentionally got health departments to report false positives...? In an effort to make himself, uhh, and the state look bad? This is some EagleVA levels of conspiracy theory right here. Holy ish.
February 15, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, Kz! said: OK, I spent the better part of the weekend attempting to make sense of this post. I'm still lost. @Green Dog, care to clarify yet? Anyone else care to venture a guess as to what this is supposed to mean? https://blog.independent.org/2020/07/30/state-mismanagement-of-covid-19-data-continues/ Quote Mindy Clark of Sarasota, Florida, drove to a COVID-19 testing site at Manatee Rural Health because she thought she might have contracted the virus. At the drive-thru testing center, she was told to take the test only if she had experienced symptoms. She drove away before being swabbed. Two days later, she received a phone call informing her she tested positive. To have the erroneous diagnosis stricken from her record, she was required to get retested. This disturbing and harmful mix-up may be more common than we’d like to think. As Dr. Jay Wolfson, Professor Public Health & Medicine at the University of South Florida, explained to MSN: This is part of the testing mechanism problem. People are sitting in their cars, sometimes for hours, or standing in line, six feet apart sometimes for hours. You’re registered though, you’re number 15 in line, and you are Jay Wolfson. If Jay Wolfson says he can’t wait any longer and he leaves, it will get number 15 and now get Rebecca Fernandez, who was standing behind him, and she tests positive, and then everyone from then on gets the wrong results. Frustrated over the state government’s mishandling of COVID-19 data, Dr. Wolfson added, "the state has to clean up their act.” in other news, Florida still sucks.
February 15, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: https://blog.independent.org/2020/07/30/state-mismanagement-of-covid-19-data-continues/ in other news, Florida still sucks. I understand that local health departments reported false positives in Florida. I'm struggling with the idea of how local health departments reporting false positives and Cuomo directing employees to intentionally hide nursing home deaths are somehow related. You know, the point of the post, apparently.
February 15, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: https://blog.independent.org/2020/07/30/state-mismanagement-of-covid-19-data-continues/ in other news, Florida still sucks. In all honesty, I've been hearing these types of stories since last summer around here too - I always chocked it up as a friend of a friend of someone's brother heard that so and so got a letter that they were positive without even getting tested.
February 15, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: I understand that local health departments reported false positives in Florida. I'm struggling with the idea of how local health departments reporting false positives and Cuomo directing employees to intentionally hide nursing home deaths are somehow related. You know, the point of the post, apparently. They weren't false positives in the sense that COVID-19 numbers were inflated. They were positive tests that got connected with the wrong patients, because their system sucked. Which is worse, because you then had people thinking their test was negative when they were the actual positive test. It seems to have been a rare occurrence, but the point is that the count of positives was correct. The allocation of those positives to patients was not always correct.
February 15, 20214 yr Those "I waited in line for hours, and then left before getting tested, then got a call saying I was positive!" stories circulated on social media for a while last spring/summer. They were stories meant to imply the numbers were being falsified (this was during the height of the plandemic/hoax hysteria). Suspiciously, they were repeated almost verbatim by people in multiple cities/states. They eventually faded away once news agencies got involved, and even DeSantis himself tried to get to the bottom of what happened.
February 15, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: They weren't false positives in the sense that COVID-19 numbers were inflated. They were positive tests that got connected with the wrong patients, because their system sucked. Which is worse, because you then had people thinking their test was negative when they were the actual positive test. It seems to have been a rare occurrence, but the point is that the count of positives was correct. The allocation of those positives to patients was not always correct. Right, again, my question has nothing to do with the actual story. I'm trying to understand how the story is in any way connected to the story about Cuomo intentionally fudging nursing home death statistics. @Green Dog seems to believe DeSantis ordered health departments to falsely attribute these positive tests. IDK, it's all very confusing.
February 15, 20214 yr Almost certainly these are all concocted and didn't actually happen... https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-covid-positive-test-hoax-20200713-xk3aueospjef7dffzazn4zm5ky-story.html https://www.khq.com/coronavirus/kootenai-health-debunks-rumors-claiming-people-received-positive-covid-19-results-despite-not-testing/article_872219ac-c6c9-11ea-b44a-cf05f43e9174.html https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/08/02/coronavirus-positive-test-result-letters/5556665002/ https://www.wafb.com/2020/07/16/ldh-addresses-online-rumors-myths-about-how-covid-numbers-are-counted/
February 15, 20214 yr I'll never get tired of watching members of the press get bullied. Even if it's not the American press.
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