2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Hence the caution required by isolating and limiting contact when a positive case crops up among the residents or staff, numbnuts.

After they can actually get boosters, less caution would be warranted.

WRONG. The same protocols have been in place since "full immunity" after the second does (3 weeks) was reached.

I'm done with a name calling 12 year old named "we_gotta_believe"

Just now, greenskeeper said:

WRONG. The same protocols have been in place since "full immunity" after the second does (3 weeks) was reached.

I'm done with a name calling 12 year old named "we_gotta_believe"

Right now boosters are only approved for immunocompromised. But anyone over 60 and 6 months out is at risk of reduced immunity, including against severe disease, not just symptomatic disease.

Oh and looks like I spelled it just fine:

 

"Cavalier Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com" https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cavalier

 

Stick to posting unfunny memes, trumpbot

 

2 hours ago, DBW said:

Agree on that last part.

here’s my bug concern in terms of school - not that kids are going to get deathly sick and hospitalized - but that their education is going to be so interrupted and broken that they don’t learn anything for the second year in a row.  Masking in schools to me is more about keeping kids learning than it is healthy.  We know the vast majority of kids testing positive have little to no symptoms and aren’t getting hospitalized but the more kids testing positive the more likely it is the schools get shut down again, and/or go remote which we know what a complete joke. 

Agree virtual learning was a joke, kids learned nothing during that year and a half.

I worry that schools will use the number of cases as a reason to close schools again, when there is practically ZERO risk to the students.

18 minutes ago, greenskeeper said:

Agree virtual learning was a joke, kids learned nothing during that year and a half.

I worry that schools will use the number of cases as a reason to close schools again, when there is practically ZERO risk to the students.

In DE they use the cdc guidelines of x/100k or something like that to decide on what to do, however the school district really has no contingency plans that they’ve Made us aware of, and my wife teaches in the district yet is kept in the dark.  They had an emergency board meeting tonight to discuss what to do as we’ve already had almost every school in the district with kids in quarantine.  And we have a before school daycare program to thank for it as they were not following ANY of the guidelines for distancing, kids in classroom, teachers/student ratio, etc.  there’s going to be lawsuits and potential license issue for that place now.  

https://www.axios.com/axios-ipsos-poll-vaccine-hesitancy-crumbling-9ffe938f-5b9b-4707-bfe4-f7c3dc559ba9.html

Hopefully this is real. 

4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

https://www.axios.com/axios-ipsos-poll-vaccine-hesitancy-crumbling-9ffe938f-5b9b-4707-bfe4-f7c3dc559ba9.html

Hopefully this is real. 

31% of parents should have their children taken from them

Just for shsts and giggles to set off the deranged dozen in CVON:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

American Journal of Therapeutics

Am J Ther. 2021 Jul-Aug; 28(4): e434–e460.

Published online 2021 Jun 21. doi: 10.1097/MJT.0000000000001402

PMCID: PMC8248252

PMID: 34145166

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines

Andrew Bryant, MSc,^1,*Theresa A. Lawrie, MBBCh, PhD,²Therese Dowswell, PhD,²Edmund J. Fordham, PhD,²Scott Mitchell, MBChB, MRCS,³Sarah R. Hill, PhD,¹ and Tony C. Tham, MD, FRCP⁴

Author information Copyright and License information Disclaimer

 

This article has been cited by other articles in PMC.

 

Go to:

Background:

Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials.

Areas of uncertainty:

We assessed the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in reducing mortality, in secondary outcomes, and in chemoprophylaxis, among people with, or at high risk of, COVID-19 infection.

Data sources:

We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021. Two review authors sifted for studies, extracted data, and assessed risk of bias. Meta-analyses were conducted and certainty of the evidence was assessed using the GRADE approach and additionally in trial sequential analyses for mortality. Twenty-four randomized controlled trials involving 3406 participants met review inclusion.

Therapeutic Advances:

Meta-analysis of 15 trials found that ivermectin reduced risk of death compared with no ivermectin (average risk ratio 0.38, 95% confidence interval 0.19–0.73; n = 2438; I² = 49%; moderate-certainty evidence). This result was confirmed in a trial sequential analysis using the same DerSimonian–Laird method that underpinned the unadjusted analysis. This was also robust against a trial sequential analysis using the Biggerstaff–Tweedie method. Low-certainty evidence found that ivermectin prophylaxis reduced COVID-19 infection by an average 86% (95% confidence interval 79%–91%). Secondary outcomes provided less certain evidence. Low-certainty evidence suggested that there may be no benefit with ivermectin for "need for mechanical ventilation,” whereas effect estimates for "improvement” and "deterioration” clearly favored ivermectin use. Severe adverse events were rare among treatment trials and evidence of no difference was assessed as low certainty. Evidence on other secondary outcomes was very low certainty.

Conclusions:

Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

Keywords: ivermectin, prophylaxis, treatment, COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2

 

2 hours ago, greenskeeper said:

Agree virtual learning was a joke, kids learned nothing during that year and a half.

I worry that schools will use the number of cases as a reason to close schools again, when there is practically ZERO risk to the students.

 But plenty of risk to the teachers. Already have had teacher deaths here in FL and the school year is barely started. Masks should be a no brainer. The kids don’t care. Unfortunately, many teachers are also anti-maskers (Trumpers).

On 8/31/2021 at 9:04 AM, Kz! said:

Oddly enough people shoving food in their face and people refusing to get vaccines both suffer from mental illness. 

1 hour ago, Procus said:

Just for shsts and giggles to set off the deranged dozen in CVON:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

American Journal of Therapeutics

Am J Ther. 2021 Jul-Aug; 28(4): e434–e460.

Published online 2021 Jun 21. doi: 10.1097/MJT.0000000000001402

PMCID: PMC8248252

PMID: 34145166

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines

Andrew Bryant, MSc,^1,*Theresa A. Lawrie, MBBCh, PhD,²Therese Dowswell, PhD,²Edmund J. Fordham, PhD,²Scott Mitchell, MBChB, MRCS,³Sarah R. Hill, PhD,¹ and Tony C. Tham, MD, FRCP⁴

Author information Copyright and License information Disclaimer

 

This article has been cited by other articles in PMC.

 

Go to:

Background:

Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials.

Areas of uncertainty:

We assessed the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in reducing mortality, in secondary outcomes, and in chemoprophylaxis, among people with, or at high risk of, COVID-19 infection.

Data sources:

We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021. Two review authors sifted for studies, extracted data, and assessed risk of bias. Meta-analyses were conducted and certainty of the evidence was assessed using the GRADE approach and additionally in trial sequential analyses for mortality. Twenty-four randomized controlled trials involving 3406 participants met review inclusion.

Therapeutic Advances:

Meta-analysis of 15 trials found that ivermectin reduced risk of death compared with no ivermectin (average risk ratio 0.38, 95% confidence interval 0.19–0.73; n = 2438; I² = 49%; moderate-certainty evidence). This result was confirmed in a trial sequential analysis using the same DerSimonian–Laird method that underpinned the unadjusted analysis. This was also robust against a trial sequential analysis using the Biggerstaff–Tweedie method. Low-certainty evidence found that ivermectin prophylaxis reduced COVID-19 infection by an average 86% (95% confidence interval 79%–91%). Secondary outcomes provided less certain evidence. Low-certainty evidence suggested that there may be no benefit with ivermectin for "need for mechanical ventilation,” whereas effect estimates for "improvement” and "deterioration” clearly favored ivermectin use. Severe adverse events were rare among treatment trials and evidence of no difference was assessed as low certainty. Evidence on other secondary outcomes was very low certainty.

Conclusions:

Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

Keywords: ivermectin, prophylaxis, treatment, COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2

 

We arent opposed to ivermectin, we’re opposed to anal chugging drugs containing that and 50 other chemicals and drugs that are specifically made for fish and horses.  

29 minutes ago, Bill said:

Oddly enough people shoving food in their face and people refusing to get vaccines both suffer from mental illness. 

Yah, people questioning the veracity of what they've been told when they've repeatedly been lied to in the past are mentally ill.

23 minutes ago, DBW said:

We arent opposed to ivermectin, we’re opposed to anal chugging drugs containing that and 50 other chemicals and drugs that are specifically made for fish and horses.  

Really, you mean the deranged dozen on this thread have no problem with Ivermectin if its prescribed by a MD - even if prescribed for treatment or prophylactic purposes

4 minutes ago, Procus said:

Really, you mean the deranged dozen on this thread have no problem with Ivermectin if its prescribed by a MD - even if prescribed for treatment or prophylactic purposes

For prophylactic purposes, would you say ivermectin or the vaccine works better?

7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

For prophylactic purposes, would you say ivermectin or the vaccine works better?

Perhaps both used together work better than separately, I don't know.  As for treatment, the results in India were very promising.

As for the vaccine, from all indications, it appears to wane in its efficacy over time, hence the calls for repeated booster shots.  The vaccine from all appearances is more effective shortly after administered.  I have read reports that there are isolated cases of a new mutation that is vaccine resistant.  Time will tell.  Let's hope not.  Certainly the number of vaccinated people we see coming down with infection is disappointing, but I am hopeful that even if the vaccines have limited effectiveness with regard to prevention of transmission and infection, they nevertheless are useful from a therapeutic standpoint to limit the severity. 

 

20 minutes ago, Procus said:

Really, you mean the deranged dozen on this thread have no problem with Ivermectin if its prescribed by a MD - even if prescribed for treatment or prophylactic purposes

You forgot joe Rogan, he has covid and took ivermectin. Is a miracle cure he feels great.  Way to keep the insanity alive joe. 😆 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1278323

What I’m saying is it’s not the ivermectin itself is used to treat parasites and if I had a tape worm that needed killing and that was the way to do it, fine. It’s approved for that.  But I’m not a trumplican who’s out there injecting my bunghole with bleach and horse drugs because some rando on Twitter says it’s a good idea. 

13 minutes ago, Procus said:

Perhaps both used together work better than separately, I don't know.  As for treatment, the results in India were very promising.

As for the vaccine, from all indications, it appears to wane in its efficacy over time, hence the calls for repeated booster shots.  The vaccine from all appearances is more effective shortly after administered.  I have read reports that there are isolated cases of a new mutation that is vaccine resistant.  Time will tell.  Let's hope not.  Certainly the number of vaccinated people we see coming down with infection is disappointing, but I am hopeful that even if the vaccines have limited effectiveness with regard to prevention of transmission and infection, they nevertheless are useful from a therapeutic standpoint to limit the severity. 

 

But let's say if you had to pick one, which would it be?

4 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

31% of parents should have their children taken from them

I think you should stay away from the vaccinated vs unvaccinated, you're being played with the divide and conquer tactic, you'd be better off just waiting to see what the right choice is/was. I'm firmly convinced that one of the main objectives of the vaccine is depopulation, if so then unvaccinated will prove the be the right move.  

Before you start with what's being reported you should research Rockefeller Medicine because the same playbook is being implemented now, as Bill Gates said, "every route we take we find that the Rockefeller Foundation has already been there" and we know Gates is all about depopulation.

When John D Rockefeller took over how medicine is practiced he purchased all of the media, at the time it was basically newspapers and he labeled all Homeopathic Medicine quackery and prevented them from becoming physicians via the AMA while calling his Allopatic Medicine as real science and allowing only those practicing allopathy to become physicians. 

The same thing is happening now, the MSM has prostituted itself to the highest bidder and he highest bidder has labeled everything outside of their narritave as misinformation, I believe the misinformation is what's you're hearing from the MSM simply because it makes no sense at all, don't believe a damn ting that's being reported.

Concerning making no sense at all, I rarely listed to the MSM any more but I'll tune in once or twice a month to hear their latest lies and I heard one yesterday.  Supposedly a woman had stage 4 cancer and she couldn't get a bed in the hospital because all the beds were taken by unvaccinated COVID patients, who in their right mind buys that BS, your chance of dying from COVID is like .03% and they turn away someone that's knocking on deaths door for those odds??

2 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

I think you should stay away from the vaccinated vs unvaccinated, you're being played with the divide and conquer tactic, you'd be better off just waiting to see what the right choice is/was. I'm firmly convinced that one of the main objectives of the vaccine is depopulation, if so then unvaccinated will prove the be the right move.  

Before you start with what's being reported you should research Rockefeller Medicine because the same playbook is being implemented now, as Bill Gates said, "every route we take we find that the Rockefeller Foundation has already been there" and we know Gates is all about depopulation.

When John D Rockefeller took over how medicine is practiced he purchased all of the media, at the time it was basically newspapers and he labeled all Homeopathic Medicine quackery and prevented them from becoming physicians via the AMA while calling his Allopatic Medicine as real science and allowing only those practicing allopathy to become physicians. 

The same thing is happening now, the MSM has prostituted itself to the highest bidder and he highest bidder has labeled everything outside of their narritave as misinformation, I believe the misinformation is what's you're hearing from the MSM simply because it makes no sense at all, don't believe a damn ting that's being reported.

Concerning making no sense at all, I rarely listed to the MSM any more but I'll tune in once or twice a month to hear their latest lies and I heard one yesterday.  Supposedly a woman had stage 4 cancer and she couldn't get a bed in the hospital because all the beds were taken by unvaccinated COVID patients, who in their right mind buys that BS, your chance of dying from COVID is like .03% and they turn away someone that's knocking on deaths door for those odds??

What if the vaccine is to protect you so the depopulation happens by eliminating the dumb arses with a deadly virus.  You’re onto something.  There is a depopulation happening but it’s a slow and painful suffocating death when you get sick and die, or get sick and desperately inject yourself with horse poopy meds.  

Expired Crystal Pepsi.  Lmao

 

welp

32 minutes ago, DBW said:

What if the vaccine is to protect you so the depopulation happens by eliminating the dumb arses with a deadly virus.  You’re onto something.  There is a depopulation happening but it’s a slow and painful suffocating death when you get sick and die, or get sick and desperately inject yourself with horse poopy meds.  

What if you're right? What if they're also inciting the divison and conspiracy theories to increase that depopulation. 

Millions of crazed gun owners knowing they're gonna die a horrible and suffering dead just go out on neighborhood rampages. 

Thus multiplying the depopulation and then being able to swoop in like saviors once they get to their numbers.

Whew. Horrifying.

😂

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

Expired Crystal Pepsi.  Lmao

And don't forget DMT! 😃

58 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

 

welp

Well, this is a good test case for everybody to follow. 

Ivermectin has been safely used by people for decades.  The fact that it is also used for cows is irrelevant.  There are many drugs used by people that are also prescribed for animals.

I would hope that everybody here wishes Rogan a full and speedy recovery, and that the Ivermectin successfully treats his condition.  That would be a good thing for everybody - wouldn't it???

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

But let's say if you had to pick one, which would it be?

I'd pick my nose and flick the booger at you.

Just now, Procus said:

I'd pick my nose and flick the booger at you.

can't bring yourself to answer it, huh?