Then there's this.   If any of you get infected with the Mu variant, you'll need to rely on your vaccines because you don't believe in treatment if it's not supported by big pharm or the FDA.

https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/covid-19-new-mu-variant-from-colombia-could-be-vaccine-resistant-who-678428

COVID-19: New 'Mu variant' from Colombia could be vaccine resistant - WHO

A number of mutations suggest that the Mu variant could resist immune defenses and possibly even have a faster transmission than other variants.

By AARON REICH  

SEPTEMBER 2, 2021 16:29

 

The World Health Organization (WHO) is closely monitoring the emergence of a new variant of the novel coronavirus, the Mu variant, which has already been spreading through South America and has shown signs of possible vaccine resistance.

 

First identified in January 2021 in Colombia, the Mu variant has seen sporadic cases emerge throughout South America and Europe. Globally, the variant accounts for less than 0.1% of all cases worldwide. However, the WHO has noted that it has become considerably more prevalent in Colombia and Ecuador, where it accounts for approximately 39% and 13% of respective cases.

 

Further research is needed to accurately verify if this new variant, also known by the designations VUI-21JUL-01 and B.1.621, could be resistant to vaccines. The WHO is still monitoring it as a Variant Of Interest, as there are several mutations, two of which were designated E484K and K417N, suggesting it could resist immune defenses in a similar manner to the Beta variant found in South Africa.

 

Another mutation found, dubbed P681H, has also caused some concern, as this could make the variant more infectious, similar to the Alpha variant found in the UK, according to The Guardian. However, it isn’t clear if this is in fact more contagious than other variants, with an August report by Public Health England noting, "At present, there is no evidence that VUI-21JUL-01 is outcompeting the Delta variant and it appears unlikely that it is more transmissible.”

 

The Mu variant has been detected in some 40 countries so far, including the UK, US, Hong Kong and in Europe, and could spread further.

 

On Thursday, Japan’s Health Ministry confirmed that two Mu variant cases were detected in the country in June and July during airport screenings, the former having been an arrival from the UAE and the latter having arrived from the UK, though both were asymptomatic, the Japan Times reported. According to The Guardian, some 32 people in the UK have been diagnosed with the Mu variant, with the infection patterns indicating that people entering the country had brought it with them.

 

But Mu isn’t the only new variant causing concern. Recently, scientists found another variant in South Africa and a number of other countries, designated C.1.2, with concerns that it could be more infectious and evade vaccines, according to a new preprint study by South Africa’s National Institute for Communicable Diseases and the KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform, which is awaiting peer review.

 

Scientists first detected C.1.2 in May 2021, finding that it was descended from C.1, which scientists found surprising since C.1 had last been detected in January. The new variant has "mutated substantially” compared to C.1 and is more mutations away from the original virus detected in Wuhan than nearly any other variant.

 

While first detected in South Africa, C.1.2 has since been found in England, China, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mauritius, New Zealand, Portugal and Switzerland.

 

The South African study comes as a doctor in Turkey reported indications that a new coronavirus variant had been detected in the country, with tests detecting mutations that weren’t found in the current variants named by the WHO.

 

The coronavirus pandemic originated in Wuhan, China, and has since spread worldwide. Over the past two years, the disease has infected hundreds of millions of people. The global death toll is estimated at around 4.5 million.

Just so I'm clear. Saying that you won't take an unapproved treatment that hasn't been through a peer-reviewed, proper study somehow equates to deciding that you'll do nothing if you get sick and hope there are never therapeutics. Do I have that right?

So the crazy position is wanting for something to be proven effective and safe before taking it. Makes sense. 

Another new variant? Great

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Another new variant? Great

There are always new variants this is just media fearmongering

12 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Just so I'm clear. Saying that you won't take an unapproved treatment that hasn't been through a peer-reviewed, proper study somehow equates to deciding that you'll do nothing if you get sick and hope there are never therapeutics. Do I have that right?

So the crazy position is wanting for something to be proven effective and safe before taking it. Makes sense. 

Yeah, but it's free.

1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

There are always new variants this is just media fearmongering

Yah, the media hasn't otherwise been fear mongering or manipulating the truth about Covid until now.

The Unvaccinated reap what they sow. If Joe Rogan wants to use medication for animals, let him do so and face the consequences. 

17 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

So the crazy position is wanting for something to be proven effective and safe before taking it. Makes sense. 

The crazy position is to label drugs that have been safely used for decades as suddenly unsafe while largely experimental vaccines are universally labeled as safe.  Makes sense.

1 minute ago, jsdarkstar said:

The Unvaccinated reap what they sow. If Joe Rogan wants to use medication for animals, let him do so and face the consequences. 

He's fully recovered genius.  Here's an idea - if you get Covid, don't take Ivermectin.  Nobody is forcing you to do so.

 

Just now, Procus said:

He's fully recovered genius.

Thanks Genius. Maybe other unvaccinated idiots will follow his lead and take the animal heart worm medication or try bleach injections as well. Road to recovery.

2 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

The Unvaccinated reap what they sow. If Joe Rogan wants to use medication for animals, let him do so and face the consequences. 

Which should include not getting real medical treatment to fix the consequences of their stupidity

2 minutes ago, Procus said:

The crazy position is to label drugs that have been safely used for decades as suddenly unsafe while largely experimental vaccines are universally labeled as safe.  Makes sense.

Pfizer was FDA approved, Genius.

4 minutes ago, Procus said:

The crazy position is to label drugs that have been safely used for decades as suddenly unsafe while largely experimental vaccines are universally labeled as safe.  Makes sense.

He's fully recovered genius.

Boy have I got good news for you, ole chap!

FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine

Approval Signifies Key Achievement for Public Health

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine

4 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Pfizer was FDA approved, Genius.

What, two weeks ago?  How long was it being pushed?  What percentage are using unapproved Moderna and other vaccines?  What a tool.

22 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Just so I'm clear. Saying that you won't take an unapproved treatment that hasn't been through a peer-reviewed, proper study somehow equates to deciding that you'll do nothing if you get sick and hope there are never therapeutics. Do I have that right?

So the crazy position is wanting for something to be proven effective and safe before taking it. Makes sense. 

You're missing the part where we can't trust the evil greedy big pharma, so we should use other more expensive drugs, made by kind benevolent big pharma. 

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Boy have I got good news for you, ole chap!

FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine

Approval Signifies Key Achievement for Public Health

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine

Moderna?  J &J?

Just now, DEagle7 said:

You're missing the part where we can't trust the evil greedy big pharma, so we should use other more expensive drugs, made by kind benevolent big pharma. 

Aren't you busy practicing medicine?  It's not Wednesday after all.

12 minutes ago, Procus said:

Yah, the media hasn't otherwise been fear mongering or manipulating the truth about Covid until now.

There is plenty of media that was happily denying such a virus existed.

Just now, Procus said:

What, two weeks ago?  How long was it being pushed?  What percentage are using unapproved Moderna and other vaccines?  What a tool.

So you doubt the efficacy of Pfizer and Moderna? Where did you earn your degree in epidemiology? Both have proven to be highly effective against Covid. 

So let's hear how affective the animal heart worm medication is to treat Covid or injecting bleach. How's that working for folks? Stats?

So let's recap the failures of a moronic trumpbot's thought process...

 

1.) Calls FDA approved vaccines experimental while advocating for off-label use of an anti-parasitic that's somehow not considered experimental.

2.) Claims vaccines are a ploy by big pharma to get rich, while advocating for use of monoclonal antibodies that cost orders of magnitude more.

3.) Predicts covid is never going away, then in the next breath says ivermectin should be taken regularly as a prophylactic because it's cheaper than a $20 vaccine.

4.) Believes anyone who doubts the use of ivermectin must be brainwashed by the liberal media into thinking all treatments are ineffective, and shouldn't seek treatment for a breakthrough infection.

I'm sure I missed a few others in there, they're tough to keep track of.

2 minutes ago, Procus said:

Moderna?  J &J?

Aren't you busy practicing medicine?  It's not Wednesday after all.

Hydroxychloroquine? Bleach IV? Ivermectin?

Which ones get approved first, do you think?

1 minute ago, Procus said:

Aren't you busy practicing medicine?  It's not Wednesday after all.

I'm on paternity leave.  Also it's not hard to refute your nonsense when you repeat the same crap over and over again. 

I know a bunch of Trump voters that got the vaccine as soon as it was available

Also know Biden’s voters that have yet to get the vaccine

Just saying with the generalizations in here 🤷‍♂️

52 minutes ago, Procus said:

Then there's this.   If any of you get infected with the Mu variant, you'll need to rely on your vaccines because you don't believe in treatment if it's not supported by big pharm or the FDA.

https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/covid-19-new-mu-variant-from-colombia-could-be-vaccine-resistant-who-678428

COVID-19: New 'Mu variant' from Colombia could be vaccine resistant - WHO

A number of mutations suggest that the Mu variant could resist immune defenses and possibly even have a faster transmission than other variants.

By AARON REICH  

SEPTEMBER 2, 2021 16:29

 

The World Health Organization (WHO) is closely monitoring the emergence of a new variant of the novel coronavirus, the Mu variant, which has already been spreading through South America and has shown signs of possible vaccine resistance.

 

First identified in January 2021 in Colombia, the Mu variant has seen sporadic cases emerge throughout South America and Europe. Globally, the variant accounts for less than 0.1% of all cases worldwide. However, the WHO has noted that it has become considerably more prevalent in Colombia and Ecuador, where it accounts for approximately 39% and 13% of respective cases.

 

Further research is needed to accurately verify if this new variant, also known by the designations VUI-21JUL-01 and B.1.621, could be resistant to vaccines. The WHO is still monitoring it as a Variant Of Interest, as there are several mutations, two of which were designated E484K and K417N, suggesting it could resist immune defenses in a similar manner to the Beta variant found in South Africa.

 

Another mutation found, dubbed P681H, has also caused some concern, as this could make the variant more infectious, similar to the Alpha variant found in the UK, according to The Guardian. However, it isn’t clear if this is in fact more contagious than other variants, with an August report by Public Health England noting, "At present, there is no evidence that VUI-21JUL-01 is outcompeting the Delta variant and it appears unlikely that it is more transmissible.”

 

The Mu variant has been detected in some 40 countries so far, including the UK, US, Hong Kong and in Europe, and could spread further.

 

On Thursday, Japan’s Health Ministry confirmed that two Mu variant cases were detected in the country in June and July during airport screenings, the former having been an arrival from the UAE and the latter having arrived from the UK, though both were asymptomatic, the Japan Times reported. According to The Guardian, some 32 people in the UK have been diagnosed with the Mu variant, with the infection patterns indicating that people entering the country had brought it with them.

 

But Mu isn’t the only new variant causing concern. Recently, scientists found another variant in South Africa and a number of other countries, designated C.1.2, with concerns that it could be more infectious and evade vaccines, according to a new preprint study by South Africa’s National Institute for Communicable Diseases and the KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform, which is awaiting peer review.

 

Scientists first detected C.1.2 in May 2021, finding that it was descended from C.1, which scientists found surprising since C.1 had last been detected in January. The new variant has "mutated substantially” compared to C.1 and is more mutations away from the original virus detected in Wuhan than nearly any other variant.

 

While first detected in South Africa, C.1.2 has since been found in England, China, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mauritius, New Zealand, Portugal and Switzerland.

 

The South African study comes as a doctor in Turkey reported indications that a new coronavirus variant had been detected in the country, with tests detecting mutations that weren’t found in the current variants named by the WHO.

 

The coronavirus pandemic originated in Wuhan, China, and has since spread worldwide. Over the past two years, the disease has infected hundreds of millions of people. The global death toll is estimated at around 4.5 million.

There’s not a single sentence in there that says the New variant is vaccine resistant.  They haven’t studied it enough and have very little data on it to come to any conclusions about spread, infection rates, vaccine effectiveness, etc.  

stop reading headlines and start reading the actual information.

6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

So let's recap the failures of a moronic trumpbot's through process...

 

1.) Calls FDA approved vaccines experimental while advocating for off-label use of an anti-parasitic that's somehow not considered experimental.

2.) Claims vaccines are a ploy by big pharma to get rich, while advocating for use of monoclonal antibodies that cost orders of magnitude more.

3.) Predicts covid is never going away, then in the next breath says ivermectin should be taken regularly as a prophylactic because it's cheaper than a $20 vaccine.

4.) Believes anyone who doubts the use of ivermectin must be brainwashed by the liberal media into thinking all treatments are ineffective, and shouldn't seek treatment for a breakthrough infection.

I'm sure I missed a few others in there, they're tough to keep track of.

Don’t forget the overarching thought process of applauding trump for operation warp speed to develop the life saving vaccines and then criticizing Biden for getting it into arms because it’s, you know, experimental and filled with mind controlling substances.  

 

7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Hydroxychloroquine? Bleach IV? Ivermectin?

Which ones get approved first, do you think?

You're a tiresome bore.  Bye bye!!