29 minutes ago, Bill said:

Oddly enough people shoving food in their face and people refusing to get vaccines both suffer from mental illness. 

Yah, people questioning the veracity of what they've been told when they've repeatedly been lied to in the past are mentally ill.

23 minutes ago, DBW said:

We arent opposed to ivermectin, we’re opposed to anal chugging drugs containing that and 50 other chemicals and drugs that are specifically made for fish and horses.  

Really, you mean the deranged dozen on this thread have no problem with Ivermectin if its prescribed by a MD - even if prescribed for treatment or prophylactic purposes

4 minutes ago, Procus said:

Really, you mean the deranged dozen on this thread have no problem with Ivermectin if its prescribed by a MD - even if prescribed for treatment or prophylactic purposes

For prophylactic purposes, would you say ivermectin or the vaccine works better?

7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

For prophylactic purposes, would you say ivermectin or the vaccine works better?

Perhaps both used together work better than separately, I don't know.  As for treatment, the results in India were very promising.

As for the vaccine, from all indications, it appears to wane in its efficacy over time, hence the calls for repeated booster shots.  The vaccine from all appearances is more effective shortly after administered.  I have read reports that there are isolated cases of a new mutation that is vaccine resistant.  Time will tell.  Let's hope not.  Certainly the number of vaccinated people we see coming down with infection is disappointing, but I am hopeful that even if the vaccines have limited effectiveness with regard to prevention of transmission and infection, they nevertheless are useful from a therapeutic standpoint to limit the severity. 

 

20 minutes ago, Procus said:

Really, you mean the deranged dozen on this thread have no problem with Ivermectin if its prescribed by a MD - even if prescribed for treatment or prophylactic purposes

You forgot joe Rogan, he has covid and took ivermectin. Is a miracle cure he feels great.  Way to keep the insanity alive joe. 😆 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1278323

What I’m saying is it’s not the ivermectin itself is used to treat parasites and if I had a tape worm that needed killing and that was the way to do it, fine. It’s approved for that.  But I’m not a trumplican who’s out there injecting my bunghole with bleach and horse drugs because some rando on Twitter says it’s a good idea. 

13 minutes ago, Procus said:

Perhaps both used together work better than separately, I don't know.  As for treatment, the results in India were very promising.

As for the vaccine, from all indications, it appears to wane in its efficacy over time, hence the calls for repeated booster shots.  The vaccine from all appearances is more effective shortly after administered.  I have read reports that there are isolated cases of a new mutation that is vaccine resistant.  Time will tell.  Let's hope not.  Certainly the number of vaccinated people we see coming down with infection is disappointing, but I am hopeful that even if the vaccines have limited effectiveness with regard to prevention of transmission and infection, they nevertheless are useful from a therapeutic standpoint to limit the severity. 

 

But let's say if you had to pick one, which would it be?

4 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

31% of parents should have their children taken from them

I think you should stay away from the vaccinated vs unvaccinated, you're being played with the divide and conquer tactic, you'd be better off just waiting to see what the right choice is/was. I'm firmly convinced that one of the main objectives of the vaccine is depopulation, if so then unvaccinated will prove the be the right move.  

Before you start with what's being reported you should research Rockefeller Medicine because the same playbook is being implemented now, as Bill Gates said, "every route we take we find that the Rockefeller Foundation has already been there" and we know Gates is all about depopulation.

When John D Rockefeller took over how medicine is practiced he purchased all of the media, at the time it was basically newspapers and he labeled all Homeopathic Medicine quackery and prevented them from becoming physicians via the AMA while calling his Allopatic Medicine as real science and allowing only those practicing allopathy to become physicians. 

The same thing is happening now, the MSM has prostituted itself to the highest bidder and he highest bidder has labeled everything outside of their narritave as misinformation, I believe the misinformation is what's you're hearing from the MSM simply because it makes no sense at all, don't believe a damn ting that's being reported.

Concerning making no sense at all, I rarely listed to the MSM any more but I'll tune in once or twice a month to hear their latest lies and I heard one yesterday.  Supposedly a woman had stage 4 cancer and she couldn't get a bed in the hospital because all the beds were taken by unvaccinated COVID patients, who in their right mind buys that BS, your chance of dying from COVID is like .03% and they turn away someone that's knocking on deaths door for those odds??

2 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

I think you should stay away from the vaccinated vs unvaccinated, you're being played with the divide and conquer tactic, you'd be better off just waiting to see what the right choice is/was. I'm firmly convinced that one of the main objectives of the vaccine is depopulation, if so then unvaccinated will prove the be the right move.  

Before you start with what's being reported you should research Rockefeller Medicine because the same playbook is being implemented now, as Bill Gates said, "every route we take we find that the Rockefeller Foundation has already been there" and we know Gates is all about depopulation.

When John D Rockefeller took over how medicine is practiced he purchased all of the media, at the time it was basically newspapers and he labeled all Homeopathic Medicine quackery and prevented them from becoming physicians via the AMA while calling his Allopatic Medicine as real science and allowing only those practicing allopathy to become physicians. 

The same thing is happening now, the MSM has prostituted itself to the highest bidder and he highest bidder has labeled everything outside of their narritave as misinformation, I believe the misinformation is what's you're hearing from the MSM simply because it makes no sense at all, don't believe a damn ting that's being reported.

Concerning making no sense at all, I rarely listed to the MSM any more but I'll tune in once or twice a month to hear their latest lies and I heard one yesterday.  Supposedly a woman had stage 4 cancer and she couldn't get a bed in the hospital because all the beds were taken by unvaccinated COVID patients, who in their right mind buys that BS, your chance of dying from COVID is like .03% and they turn away someone that's knocking on deaths door for those odds??

What if the vaccine is to protect you so the depopulation happens by eliminating the dumb arses with a deadly virus.  You’re onto something.  There is a depopulation happening but it’s a slow and painful suffocating death when you get sick and die, or get sick and desperately inject yourself with horse poopy meds.  

Expired Crystal Pepsi.  Lmao

 

welp

32 minutes ago, DBW said:

What if the vaccine is to protect you so the depopulation happens by eliminating the dumb arses with a deadly virus.  You’re onto something.  There is a depopulation happening but it’s a slow and painful suffocating death when you get sick and die, or get sick and desperately inject yourself with horse poopy meds.  

What if you're right? What if they're also inciting the divison and conspiracy theories to increase that depopulation. 

Millions of crazed gun owners knowing they're gonna die a horrible and suffering dead just go out on neighborhood rampages. 

Thus multiplying the depopulation and then being able to swoop in like saviors once they get to their numbers.

Whew. Horrifying.

😂

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

Expired Crystal Pepsi.  Lmao

And don't forget DMT! 😃

58 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

 

welp

Well, this is a good test case for everybody to follow. 

Ivermectin has been safely used by people for decades.  The fact that it is also used for cows is irrelevant.  There are many drugs used by people that are also prescribed for animals.

I would hope that everybody here wishes Rogan a full and speedy recovery, and that the Ivermectin successfully treats his condition.  That would be a good thing for everybody - wouldn't it???

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

But let's say if you had to pick one, which would it be?

I'd pick my nose and flick the booger at you.

Just now, Procus said:

I'd pick my nose and flick the booger at you.

can't bring yourself to answer it, huh?

1 hour ago, DBW said:

You forgot joe Rogan, he has covid and took ivermectin. Is a miracle cure he feels great.  Way to keep the insanity alive joe. 😆 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1278323

What I’m saying is it’s not the ivermectin itself is used to treat parasites and if I had a tape worm that needed killing and that was the way to do it, fine. It’s approved for that.  But I’m not a trumplican who’s out there injecting my bunghole with bleach and horse drugs because some rando on Twitter says it’s a good idea. 

I guess you don't believe that medications can have versatile uses.   Don't worry, if it winds up that Ivermectin effectively treats Covid, nobody will force you to take it - even though you, no doubt believe that recently created vaccines should be mandatory.

What's so messed up about your stance is that you should be pulling for the success of a cheap, readily available medication that has been safely used for decades.  Instead, you are rooting for it not to succeed despite the widespread success it had in India. 

5 minutes ago, Procus said:

I guess you don't believe that medications can have versatile uses.   Don't worry, if it winds up that Ivermectin effectively treats Covid, nobody will force you to take it - even though you, no doubt believe that recently created vaccines should be mandatory.

What's so messed up about your stance is that you should be pulling for the success of a cheap, readily available medication that has been safely used for decades.  Instead, you are rooting for it not to succeed despite the widespread success it had in India. 

Nobody's cheering for anything other than you dolts cheering on a tv game show host playing president. You guys can't understand the most basic principles of science and medicine. We've seen this movie before with HCQ when your idol said it was a miracle cure and it turned out to be snake oil. The fact you can't even admit targeted vaccines are a better prophylactic than off-label use of an anti-parasitic tells us all we ever need to know about your intellect.

3 hours ago, Bill said:

Oddly enough people shoving food in their face and people refusing to get vaccines both suffer from mental illness. 

Well that explains all of CVON.

30 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

can't bring yourself to answer it, huh?

You already know I got vaccinated recently, so why are you pushing the matter?  Doesn't change the fact that someone I know of died two weeks ago despite being vaccinated.

You can't bring yourself to answer the question of whether or not you want Joe Rogan's treatment with Ivermectin to be successful.  The reason is obvious.   I DARE YOU TO ANSWER THIS.

1 minute ago, Procus said:

You already know I got vaccinated recently, so why are you pushing the matter?  Doesn't change the fact that someone I know of died two weeks ago despite being vaccinated.

So are you admitting vaccines are better than ivermectin?

49 minutes ago, Procus said:

I guess you don't believe that medications can have versatile uses.   Don't worry, if it winds up that Ivermectin effectively treats Covid, nobody will force you to take it - even though you, no doubt believe that recently created vaccines should be mandatory.

What's so messed up about your stance is that you should be pulling for the success of a cheap, readily available medication that has been safely used for decades.  Instead, you are rooting for it not to succeed despite the widespread success it had in India. 

When did I ever say I wouldn’t want a cheap drug?  In fact several posts ago I commented that Pfizer is working on a pill to treat covid, probably they know what we know, it’s here to stay.  I’m getting a kick out of people raiding shelves at the local Veterinarian office because they believe that a drug, which also Includes ingredients lethal to humans.  If anything, Im rooting for those people to do their part in depopulation.  

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

So are you admitting vaccines are better than ivermectin?

So now we are listening to Joe Rogan over doctors and scientist? People love listening to game show hosts ( don't forget Rogan did fear factor lol)  for the health of their family. 

There is a chance that Ivermectin has some effect on COVID infection, but there is nowhere near enough evidence to suggest its routine use right now.  There are significant issues with many of the trials run so far that make the data difficult to trust (eg in many studies the patients who received Ivermectin were more likely to have received steroids as well).  So worth studying sure, but needs better quality data first. If you're running out to buy horse dewormer at a farm store right now well...it is a anti-parasitic so in a way it's working as intended. Just on a societal scale.

Much less effective than the vaccine as a preventative.  Won't even be even be in the ballpark.  And I would be pretty surprised if it ended up being nearly as effective as things like steroids and MAbs as treatment but we'll see what the trials show.  

TL;DR, I won't believe it until the demon semen lady drops a press conference

41 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

There is a chance that Ivermectin has some effect on COVID infection, but there is nowhere near enough evidence to suggest its routine use right now.  There are significant issues with many of the trials run so far that make the data difficult to trust (eg in many studies the patients who received Ivermectin were more likely to have received steroids as well).  So worth studying sure, but needs better quality data first. If you're running out to buy horse dewormer at a farm store right now well...it is a anti-parasitic so in a way it's working as intended. Just on a societal scale.

Much less effective than the vaccine as a preventative.  Won't even be even be in the ballpark.  And I would be pretty surprised if it ended up being nearly as effective as things like steroids and MAbs as treatment but we'll see what the trials show.  

TL;DR, I won't believe it until the demon semen lady drops a press conference

Good summary.  The simple message: "Nothing proven yet, don't eat the horse medicine, get vaccinated."  At the same time, let's not go around saying it is "proven not to work" as some like to assert (even going as far as linking to studies whose conclusion formally states that there is no conclusion at this point).  There is a chance and we should be hopeful that it does turn out to work in a significant manner though we know the odds aren't good.

I won't trust the CDC and vaccines, but there is a promising study in India regarding horse dewormer.