1 hour ago, Procus said:

1 hour ago, Procus said:

What an ignorant post.  Trump is very popular in the Cuban community - unless you don't believe they qualify as Latinos.

 

What an ignorant post. Unless you believe every Latino is Cuban. 

 

It's almost like it's a goal of your to be stupid. If so congrats, you made it!

3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Risk from vaccinated fatty < risk from unvaccinated healthy person

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/08/06/fully-vaccinated-may-transmit-delta-just-as-easily-and-new-variant-shows-signs-of-vaccine-evasion-early-uk-research-suggests/?sh=367e79dd1ac5&utm_campaign=socialflowForbesMainTwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_source=ForbesMainTwitter

Aug 6, 2021,10:17am EDT|478,719 views

Fully Vaccinated May Transmit Delta Just As Easily—And New Variant Shows Signs Of Vaccine Evasion—Early U.K. Research Suggests

Forbes Staff

 

While vaccinations reduce the overall risk of catching the delta variant, research published Friday by Public Health England (PHE) found early evidence that people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 may be able to transmit the hyper infectious variant just as easily as those who aren’t. 

With their findings outlined in a new technical briefing, PHE scientists said initial analysis of available data indicates that the levels of virus in people infected with the delta variant after being vaccinated "may be similar” to the levels found in unvaccinated people. 

PHE called the research just "early exploratory analysis” and wrote that "further targeted studies” are needed to determine the extent to which vaccinated people can spread the delta variant to others. 

Separately, the public health agency said another variant on the rise in the U.K., a strain known as B.1.621 that was discovered in Colombia, has shown signs of evading the immune response triggered by Covid-19 vaccines or previous infection. 

PHE said "there is preliminary laboratory evidence” suggesting that "vaccination and previous infection may be less effective at preventing infection” with this strain, though there is "no evidence” it is more transmissible than the delta variant, which now accounts for roughly 99% of the U.K.’s new cases. 

There have been 37 confirmed cases of B.1.621 in England across six different regions, according to PHE, and it has also been identified in several other countries, including the United States. 

Surprising Fact 

The data shared by PHE also showed that of the confirmed delta cases that ended up hospitalized since July 19, 55.1% of the 1,467 were unvaccinated, while 34.9% had received both doses of the vaccine. Experts have highlighted that hospitalizations of vaccinated people does not mean vaccines aren’t working. 

Crucial Quote 

"While vaccines provide high levels of protection, they are not 100% and will not stop everyone catching Covid-19,” PHE said on Friday. "As more of the population gets vaccinated, we will see a higher relative percentage of vaccinated people in hospital.” 

Key Background 

The findings from Public Health England line up with research released last week by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). As it sought to explain its sudden pivot on mask guidance for vaccinated people, the agency published a study suggesting fully immunized people who contract Covid-19 can spread the virus to others just as readily as unvaccinated people. 

1 hour ago, Procus said:

What an ignorant post.  Trump is very popular in the Cuban community - unless you don't believe they qualify as Latinos.

Exactly my point. If Latinos make up a huge portion of unvaccinated individuals, and Trump supporters do as well, logic dictates that unvaccinated Latino trump supporters are responsible for spreading Covid. Go scold Zuker for assuming all you trumpbots are angry white guys like him. 

10 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Exactly my point. If Latinos make up a huge portion of unvaccinated individuals, and Trump supporters do as well, logic dictates that unvaccinated Latino trump supporters are responsible for spreading Covid. Go scold Zuker for assuming all you trumpbots are angry white guys like him. 

Also, don't forget...

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Boogyman said:

Yet you always seem to care about my opinion. Not get back to your mirror and practice your fake internet tough guy act. You have been slipping as of late and have been looking like a bit of a ****.

Not really. Opinions are like arseholes. 

I do like to study people however. Actions. Reactions.  

You're just upset because you can't hurt my feelings. You can't rattle my cage.

For what its worth. I do find you a bit predictable. If I'm feeling punchy at the time you can be entertaining.

Another example:

Vikas is usually more disciplined than he (an assumption) has been lately. Maybe its his fathers condition. I don't know.

He's seems generally comfortable with racial stereotyping and joking about it as it suits his purpose at the time.

He likes people online to know he has money. To me that's the equivalent of posting a picture online holding a framed degree and saying "this is me". Ok? We generally don't interact.

For all you know I'm a quadriplegic using a straw to post. A co-worker. A chick. Your mom.

Did I just imply I might be your mom or am I saying "your mom"?

I'm the meanest, nice person you could ever hope to meet.

F off and have a nice day.

PS: that "Not" should be "Now". Fix it for wgb's sake or he'll fixate on it.

*middle finger emoji

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

Not really. Opinions are like arseholes. 

I do like to study people however. Actions. Reactions.  

You're just upset because you can't hurt my feelings. You can't rattle my cage.

For what its worth. I do find you a bit predictable. If I'm feeling punchy at the time you can be entertaining.

Another example:

Vikas is usually more disciplined than he (an assumption) has been lately. Maybe its his fathers condition. I don't know.

He's seems generally comfortable with racial stereotyping and joking about it as it suits his purpose at the time.

He likes people online to know he has money. To me that's the equivalent of posting a picture online holding a framed degree and saying "this is me". Ok? We generally don't interact.

For all you know I'm a quadriplegic using a straw to post. A co-worker. A chick. Your mom.

Did I just imply I might be your mom or am I saying "your mom"?

I'm the meanest, nice person you could ever hope to meet.

F off and have a nice day.

PS: that "Not" should be "Now". Fix it for wgb's sake or he'll fixate on it.

*middle finger emoji

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah that response was not unhinged at all.  Glad to see you still don't care about my opinion in 1000 words or less.

Just now, Boogyman said:

Yeah that response was not unhinged at all.  Glad to see you still don't care about my opinion in 1000 words or less.

May or may not be stupid but you're certainly no deep thinker. 😂😂😂

Just now, lynched1 said:

😂😂😂

😉

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

Let’s see. CDC and their formal numbers.  Cherry picked his data and sources. 
 

Good point about the masking impact though you nicely left out everything else. Talk about a cherry pick. 

I posted the formal numbers.  He posted the ESTIMATES. Which are based on things like excess deaths. So again if you want to do that you should do that for COVID numbers. Which he didn't. This isn't that hard?

And I mentioned like 5 different issues and other measures that are wrong with the article. What are you talking about? Are you day drinking?

24 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

I see you know how to play with meme generators.  Definitely exceeded my expectations regarding your intellectual capacity.  Well done!!

2 minutes ago, Procus said:

I see you know how to play with meme generators.  Definitely exceeded my expectations regarding your intellectual capacity.  Well done!!

The fact you think it takes any intellectual capacity to make a meme tells me everything I need to know about yours. Poorly done as usual!!

My favorite thing today was a lady that lives down the hall from me with 3 kids with 2 different guys and is on welfare and doesn't work at all called Biden a piece of sheet cause he will shut Florida down where she wants to move. People are amazing. 

Also sports a mullet

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

My favorite thing today was a lady that lives down the hall from me with 3 kids with 2 different guys and is on welfare and doesn't work at all called Biden a piece of sheet cause he will shut Florida down where she wants to move. People are amazing. 

Also sports a mullet

My favorite thing about this story is the woman you described dreams of moving to Florida of all places. And I say this as I live in NJ.

1 minute ago, Boogyman said:

My favorite thing about this story is the woman you described dreams of moving to Florida of all places. And I say this as I live in NJ.

Trump supporter lmao. 

 

8 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Trump supporter lmao. 

 

Maybe they will all just move to Florida? 

1 minute ago, Boogyman said:

Maybe they will all just move to Florida? 

Well according to her she can't cause Biden is shutting the state down over this fake virus. Unfortunately I had to encourage her that Biden can't do sheet and the great governor of Florida won't let it happen. 

She has the biggest apartment in the building because she is on section 8 housing.... Effing BS! So anyways I had to assure her that it will be ok because I want her damn apartment lol

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Well according to her she can't cause Biden is shutting the state down over this fake virus. Unfortunately I had to encourage her that Biden can't do sheet and the great governor of Florida won't let it happen. 

She has the biggest apartment in the building because she is on section 8 housing.... Effing BS! So anyways I had to assure her that it will be ok because I want her damn apartment lol

Modern problems require modern solutions!

2 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Modern problems require modern solutions!

The new buyer of this apartment building said he wants to keep people that pay rent. I said well I'm the only one that works in this building so I don't rely on the government like the others that hate the government so much that pays their rent. 

The irony of it all. 

4 hours ago, lynched1 said:

It's almost as if you believe your opinion is relevant.

How cute.

Sup fatboy

Yeah PM me a time and place you’d like to meet in person. 

1 hour ago, Gannan said:

Exactly my point. If Latinos make up a huge portion of unvaccinated individuals, and Trump supporters do as well, logic dictates that unvaccinated Latino trump supporters are responsible for spreading Covid. Go scold Zuker for assuming all you trumpbots are angry white guys like him. 

The largest group of unvaccinated individuals - African Americans - lie squarely in the Biden camp.

Who cares at the end of the day.

39 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

My favorite thing today was a lady that lives down the hall from me with 3 kids with 2 different guys and is on welfare and doesn't work at all called Biden a piece of sheet cause he will shut Florida down where she wants to move. People are amazing. 

Also sports a mullet

You can be assured that the much larger percentage of persons on public assistance are in the Democratic camp.

1 minute ago, Procus said:

The largest group of unvaccinated individuals - African Americans - lie squarely in the Biden camp.

Who cares at the end of the day.

It’s a virus and doesn’t care what race you are.  🤦‍♂️ 

Biden has provided plenty of resources for everyone to go get their absolutely FREE vaccine.  If he offered to go door to door you call him Hitler. In fact I think some of you have basically already said that he is.  The people to blame for unvaccinated African Americans are unvaccinated African Americans.  There’s literally no excuses anymore.  Plenty of ways to get it if they want it.  If people of any race or color don’t want it, it’s because they made the choice, not the president. 

1 minute ago, DBW said:

It’s a virus and doesn’t care what race you are.  🤦‍♂️ 

Biden has provided plenty of resources for everyone to go get their absolutely FREE vaccine.  If he offered to go door to door you call him Hitler. In fact I think some of you have basically already said that he is.  The people to blame for unvaccinated African Americans are unvaccinated African Americans.  There’s literally no excuses anymore.  Plenty of ways to get it if they want it.  If people of any race or color don’t want it, it’s because they made the choice, not the president. 

Stop the blame game.  You people are so full of yourselves.  There are plenty out there that aren't on social media, don't watch the news and are just focused on other things.

I haven't heard a peep out of anyone here about one of the non-controversial points of Biden's plan - to increase the availability of monoclonal antibodies.  No consideration whatsoever for helping the sick get better.  Just out to demonize.  You do realize that effective treatment options slows down the rate of transmission as well, do you not?

My guess is that there is a good percentage of people here, in both camps, that have no idea what to do if they get infected and start experiencing symptoms.  Where are the doctors on this thread with advice about that??

29 minutes ago, Procus said:

Stop the blame game.  You people are so full of yourselves.  There are plenty out there that aren't on social media, don't watch the news and are just focused on other things.

I haven't heard a peep out of anyone here about one of the non-controversial points of Biden's plan - to increase the availability of monoclonal antibodies.  No consideration whatsoever for helping the sick get better.  Just out to demonize.  You do realize that effective treatment options slows down the rate of transmission as well, do you not?

My guess is that there is a good percentage of people here, in both camps, that have no idea what to do if they get infected and start experiencing symptoms.  Where are the doctors on this thread with advice about that??

You’re telling Me stop the blame game? You just insinuated that Biden is solely responsible for African Americans not being vaccinated.  
 

Do we need more treatment options? Yes. That’s actually being worked on by Pfizer who will hopefully have a pill you can take when you test positive.  Should be ready by end of year.  This will be a treatment backed by science and proven to work, unlike horse paste. But I still don’t see how this relates to Biden being at fault because African Americans don’t want to protect themselves.  There’s plenty of hillbilly people out there like the two in that video from a few days ago, they are t Biden supporters, and won’t listen to him, so why is that his fault?   
 

 

46 minutes ago, Bill said:

Yeah PM me a time and place you’d like to meet in person. 

PM you? 

State game land. Schoolhouse road Middletown Pa.

I'm free tomorrow. After which one of us likely won't be.

Lets be the people we see on the news.