September 23, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: The one thing I would say is that the United States government has a long history of providing people of color with suspect medical treatment. But they should still get vaccinated. Lol The burden of proof is on BLM to show how this particular policy is racist, and using the Tuskegee Experiments as evidence of that doesn't quite hold up. Vaccines have been shown to be just as safe in black people as it is in white people and the virus doesn't care about your skin color. And no, this has nothing to do with prejudicial discrimination, being a dumb ass isn't a protected class.
September 23, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I got the Pfizer, but for the booster I was interested in getting the Moderna. I agree that it's surprising, but with the rush to get as many shots in arms as possible there don't appear to be many checks in the system. Corporations have those checks typically. Giving out boosters that are not yet approved as a booster opens large corporations up to massive lawsuits should something go wrong. not to mention potential criminal liability
September 23, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, rambo said: Wow. Didn't know you were a closeted racist homophobe. I have dumasaphobia
September 23, 20215 yr I was wondering that too. I have a friend scheduled for a booster this Sunday, yet it was just approved? So yeah, the pharmacies have it-Is it the same dosage? and are giving it.
September 23, 20215 yr 9 hours ago, DBW said: Twatter has your panties all wet again. This kid is (was) an Economist at the fda. He’s expressing his own delusional thoughts. It’s the equivalent of what you do here every day. Should we go to twatter and tag your employer in the dumb crap that you post here? again, more nothingness. It’s about all we expect from you anymore. You’re losing ground here. You managed to drop the bar is so low and yet you still can’t get over it.
September 23, 20215 yr Thats one hell of a super spreader event in Del Rio. Good thing they aren't dispersing them to undisclosed locations and putting our children and the vaccinated at risk.
September 23, 20215 yr 9 minutes ago, Kz! said: Very sad story. The saddest part is how people could have helped prevent him from contracting it by getting vaccinated. He’s very high risk considering he’s a transplant patient and he’s likely taking anti rejection medication for the transplant which kills your immune system. My mom is a transplant recipient and has basically zero immune system so I can understand why they took every precaution they could. Unfortunately people don’t give a crap about others, so we can blame the unvaccinated for likely spreading the virus and carrying it to him.
September 23, 20215 yr The best Kz self-owns are the ones where he doesn't even realize they're self-owns.
September 23, 20215 yr 21 minutes ago, DBW said: The saddest part is how people could have helped prevent him from contracting it by getting vaccinated. He’s very high risk considering he’s a transplant patient and he’s likely taking anti rejection medication for the transplant which kills your immune system. My mom is a transplant recipient and has basically zero immune system so I can understand why they took every precaution they could. Unfortunately people don’t give a crap about others, so we can blame the unvaccinated for likely spreading the virus and carrying it to him. Thank your president. He's scattering illegal aliens all over the place. You think the kung flu is bad? Wait until all of the golden oldies start making a come back. Gotta love the classics. You want someone to blame? Blame our government. Covid 19 was engineered. Blame yourself and the man next to you for hiring an unchecked government.
September 23, 20215 yr 34 minutes ago, DBW said: The saddest part is how people could have helped prevent him from contracting it by getting vaccinated. He’s very high risk considering he’s a transplant patient and he’s likely taking anti rejection medication for the transplant which kills your immune system. My mom is a transplant recipient and has basically zero immune system so I can understand why they took every precaution they could. Unfortunately people don’t give a crap about others, so we can blame the unvaccinated for likely spreading the virus and carrying it to him. It's important to note that he works in a school where many would likely not be eligible to receive the shot. Very sad case.
September 23, 20215 yr 52 minutes ago, Kz! said: Very sad story. Quote As of Tuesday, Ted is now on his fourth day in the hospital, needing oxygen. His wife told KFOR Ted’s classroom is probably one of the safest, and he even asked the school board for approval to require students to wear masks. "He doesn’t want any of his students to get it. He has a student with Cancer.” His wife told KFOR unvaccinated people and those who refuse to wear masks put people like Ted in jeopardy. She’s hoping his story will help change hearts and minds. "He’ll come home and be over COVID, but he could catch it again because that’s how it is for immunocompromised people,” said Regina. "You’ve got to do this for other people if not yourself.” According to his wife, Ted is doing better and should be released on Thursday after his 5th Remdesivir dose. He can finish recovering at home, maybe with little oxygen. Hmmm, so the big takeaways from the article appear to be: 1) Schools should enforce mask mandates 2) unvaccinated people and people who refuse to mask are selfish **** and harming others 3) even incredibly high risk patients who would very likely die from COVID normally are surviving now that they're vaxxed Thanks for posting this illuminating article KZ!
September 23, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Hmmm, so the big takeaways from the article appear to be: 1) Schools should enforce mask mandates 2) unvaccinated people and people who refuse to mask are selfish **** and harming others 3) even incredibly high risk patients who would very likely die from COVID normally are surviving now that they're vaxxed 4) even those that are triple vaxxed are not protected from serious illness Thanks for posting this illuminating article KZ! fyp, too true!
September 23, 20215 yr I, for one, am glad to see a trumpbot finally going to bat for the immunocompromised by advocating for school mask mandates, vaccine mandates, and in general looking out for the wellbeing of others. It took a while, but 18 months late is better than never!
September 23, 20215 yr 31 minutes ago, Kz! said: fyp, too true! So you agree with the rest! Progress!
September 23, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: It's important to note that he works in a school where many would likely not be eligible to receive the shot. Very sad case. If only there were other ways to help protect others. Like, wearing a mask for example. I don’t know why nobody has thought of that.
September 23, 20215 yr 17 minutes ago, DBW said: If only there were other ways to help protect others. Like, wearing a mask for example. I don’t know why nobody has thought of that. There's a lot of data that shows mask mandates have been mostly useless. I'm talking data from all over the world and in the US. Not a huge mask guy anymore.
September 23, 20215 yr @DEagle7 As suspected, ACIP shot down the idea of recommending pfizer boosters to moderna recipients. This rules out my dad and in-laws getting boosted anytime soon even though they are the most at risk due to their age. And also frustrating/surprising was their stance on occupational exposure risk. I want to grab these people by the shoulders and give them a good shake. We need to start being proactive rather than reactive if we ever want to get ahead of this thing. A number of ACIP members questioned whether the committee could recommend that people who received the Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccine should be allowed to seek a Pfizer booster. But the FDA said it had no data on which to conclude getting a third shot of another vaccine would be as effective as a third shot of one’s original vaccine. Peter Marks, director of FDA’s vaccines division, told the committee FDA understands the frustration about not being able to give boosters at this point to people who did not get the Pfizer vaccine. The agency is working with manufacturers and will try to fill this gap as quickly as possible, he said. ... The committee voted against recommending a booster to anyone 18-64 who is in an occupational or institutional setting where burden of Covid-19 infection and risk of transmission is high. A vote in favor would have cleared the way for all health care workers to get an additional dose of vaccine. https://www.statnews.com/2021/09/23/covid19-vaccine-boosters-cdc-acip/
September 23, 20215 yr 8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: @DEagle7 As suspected, ACIP shot down the idea of recommending pfizer boosters to moderna recipients. This rules out my dad and in-laws getting boosted anytime soon even though they are the most at risk due to their age. And also frustrating/surprising was their stance on occupational exposure risk. I want to grab these people by the shoulders and give them a good shake. We need to start being proactive rather than reactive if we ever want to get ahead of this thing. A number of ACIP members questioned whether the committee could recommend that people who received the Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccine should be allowed to seek a Pfizer booster. But the FDA said it had no data on which to conclude getting a third shot of another vaccine would be as effective as a third shot of one’s original vaccine. Peter Marks, director of FDA’s vaccines division, told the committee FDA understands the frustration about not being able to give boosters at this point to people who did not get the Pfizer vaccine. The agency is working with manufacturers and will try to fill this gap as quickly as possible, he said. ... The committee voted against recommending a booster to anyone 18-64 who is in an occupational or institutional setting where burden of Covid-19 infection and risk of transmission is high. A vote in favor would have cleared the way for all health care workers to get an additional dose of vaccine. https://www.statnews.com/2021/09/23/covid19-vaccine-boosters-cdc-acip/ Welp, at this point I'm just gonna lie about it and claim preexisting condition. I'm about 9 months past my first vaccines by now and seeing multiple COVID cases a week. ACIP can go F itself.
September 23, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Welp, at this point I'm just gonna lie about it and claim preexisting condition. I'm about 9 months past my first vaccines by now and seeing multiple COVID cases a week. ACIP can go F itself. If there's no indication from the FDA that they'll approve 5-11 by end of October, I'll be doing the same for myself to help further reduce the risk of passing on anything to my kids. From what I've heard, there are plenty of pharmacies where there's no questions asked, you just show up and get your shot, wait 15min, and then you're on your way. Worst case is maybe it gets denied by your insurance but at this point, IDGAF about the $20 or whatever it might cost.
September 23, 20215 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: If there's no indication from the FDA that they'll approve 5-11 by end of October, I'll be doing the same. From what I've heard, there are plenty of pharmacies where there's no questions asked, you just show up and get your shot, wait 15min, and then you're on your way. Worst case is maybe it gets denied by your insurance but at this point, IDGAF about the $20 or whatever it might cost. My aunt/uncle both got Pfizer boosters after Moderna shots from a pharmacy a while back. She's immunocompromised but they didn't care about the type of vaccine. He was just there to drive her and the pharmacist said "you're in healthcare, you want a booster?" It seems as if most of them don't give a damn
September 23, 20215 yr 15 minutes ago, Procus said: Masks have just become theatre now. They are a way for some people to make themselves think they are better than others
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