14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Pretty much confirms that Hali and Hield were offered for ben and Morey said no because he wanted Fox.

That would have been awful value.

14 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

i don't think morey wanted to wait for hali to develop into a player that would help embiid win a championship. that window is small. 

Haliburton and Hield are probably enough to help Embiid win one right now. Then, he could have still added Harden in the Summer because SAC was also willing to take Harris in the deal.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Haliburton and Hield are probably enough to help Embiid win one right now. Then, he could have still added Harden in the Summer because SAC was also willing to take Harris in the deal.

 

19 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Morey and the Sixers left holding the bag and looking Fing dumb.  Again.  They’ll get another buyout player to do nothing in the postseason.  

yep.

First San Antonio extended White. Then, we passed on Murray.

Then Chicago became a super team and LaVine didnt need to get out.

Then, Brogdon got extended and couldnt be traded. 

Then we waited on Portland. Harris for McCollum made sense. They were willing to do McCollum for Ben. We waited on Lillard. Waited too long, to the point where they decided to blow up their team. So then they werent even interested in Harris because they were just clearing cap.

Cleveland was interested but he wanted Sexton AND Garland, AND Nance. Dont know where we stand with them. 

Minnesota was interested but he wants Anthony Edwards.

Detroit was interested but he wanted Grant AND Cunningham.

 

We maybe had hope that some other team was going to boost their offer when they felt Harden was becoming a real option for us. But at this point, all of our options have dwindled. Its pretty much Harden or bust. And If Im Minnesota Im looking at Philly in a position of weakness once again. I wouldnt be boosting that offer. Id call Philly's bluff and let them waste resources on broken down Harden.

 

Just now, rambo said:

 

Why not? 2 games out of first with Ben’s ****-ass sulking instead of playing. They’re already contenders in the East with Jo playing the way he is this year. Adding those two pieces would have definitely helped. 

12 minutes ago, SB52 said:

That would have been awful value.

they were also taking the Harris contract. It was an excellent deal for us. It accomplished cap space, and provided us 2 excellent young players. 

2 minutes ago, rambo said:

 

have you noticed how well embiid is playing. Even Morey realizes it and said he doesnt necessarily need a top 30 player anymore. 

1 minute ago, nipples said:

Why not? 2 games out of first with Ben’s ****-ass sulking instead of playing. They’re already contenders in the East with Jo playing the way he is this year. Adding those two pieces would have definitely helped. 

correct.

Just now, nipples said:

Why not? 2 games out of first with Ben’s ****-ass sulking instead of playing. They’re already contenders in the East with Jo playing the way he is this year. Adding those two pieces would have definitely helped. 

They may be contenders in the East, but not for a title.

Just now, rambo said:

They may be contenders in the East, but not for a title.

so you like Embiid and Harden instead of Embiid, Haliburton, Hield, and Harden. 

Not sure how you can explain that preference.

Haliburton had a great game the other night against the Sixers.  He’s not usually that good.

 

 

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Haliburton had a great game the other night against the Sixers.  He’s not usually that good.

 

 

Fox didnt play. He is usually that good when not playing with Fox.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

they were also taking the Harris contract. It was an excellent deal for us. It accomplished cap space, and provided us 2 excellent young players. 

have you noticed how well embiid is playing. Even Morey realizes it and said he doesnt necessarily need a top 30 player anymore.

I like Haliburton.  Hield sucks at the price of his contract.  Take Harris and Haliburton would be a net zero this season.  Haliburton isn't taking this team to the next level.

Getting Harden and unloading Harris to OKC is ideal.

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Haliburton had a great game the other night against the Sixers.  He’s not usually that good.

 

 

No idea where to find these splits, but he is far more productive when he’s not playing with Fox. 

1 minute ago, rambo said:

I like Haliburton.  Hield sucks at the price of his contract.  Take Harris and Haliburton would be a net zero this season.  Haliburton isn't taking this team to the next level.

Getting Harden and unloading Harris to OKC is ideal.

We would have had Barnes in place of Harris in that trade. 

Youd be adding Hield and Haliburton for Ben.

Youd have cap cleared in the summer to make the move for Harden then.

4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Haliburton had a great game the other night against the Sixers.  He’s not usually that good.

 

 

Four game stretch without Fox and shot 11/22 from 3

10 minutes ago, nipples said:

Why not? 2 games out of first with Ben’s ****-ass sulking instead of playing. They’re already contenders in the East with Jo playing the way he is this year. Adding those two pieces would have definitely helped. 

Jesus man.  How many times do you need to be told that the regular season don’t mean ish?  I bet you were excited for when Jalen Hurts"led” the Eagles to the playoffs too.  

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Jesus man.  How many times do you need to be told that the regular season don’t mean ish?  I bet you were excited for when Jalen Hurts"led” the Eagles to the playoffs too.  

he is right though. this is a team that as constructed will likely finish 1st place in the east. 

Now what is the gap between the 1st place Eastern Conference team, and beating the best team in the West?

Some will say it takes another super star. Some of us believe adding to players the caliber of Hield and Haliburton with the level Embiid is playing at would make us contenders with anyone.

On the other hand, if the best super star you get is washed up Harden... that may not be enough either. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

he is right though. this is a team that as constructed will likely finish 1st place in the east. 

Now what is the gap between the 1st place Eastern Conference team, and beating the best team in the West?

Some will say it takes another super star. Some of us believe adding to players the caliber of Hield and Haliburton with the level Embiid is playing at would make us contenders with anyone.

On the other hand, if the best super star you get is washed up Harden... that may not be enough either. 

You laid out the best possible way this could’ve worked.  Morey failed, again.  He is quickly wearing out his welcome.

washed up harden is having a down year on a dysfunctional team...and putting up 22/10/8   

8 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

washed up harden is having a down year on a dysfunctional team...and putting up 22/10/8   

he doesn't want to be there.  everyone does an ish job when they hate where they work

1 minute ago, barho said:

he doesn't want to be there.  everyone does an ish job when they hate where they work

agreed. i don't even like harden but he's super talented...putting up 22.5/10/8 while basically sleepwalking this season. 

12 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

washed up harden is having a down year on a dysfunctional team...and putting up 22/10/8   

I'd take Hield for 20mm for the next 2 years over that trash.  Hield's shooting 38% from the FIELD!  Add that to Embiid and it's a stroll to the finals.

20 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Jesus man.  How many times do you need to be told that the regular season don’t mean ish?  I bet you were excited for when Jalen Hurts"led” the Eagles to the playoffs too.  

Well considering the playoffs don’t start for some time now, what exactly do we have to go by other than the regular season? The East is wide open, and when you’ve got Embiid playing at this level you absolutely are a contender for the conference. Are they the favorite? No. Not right now, but the whole debate was how much better their chances would be if Morey had actually done the Kings deal. 

Only reason i like the kings deal is i believe haliburton in 2-3 years is going to be a legitimate star in this league but I’ve thought that since he was drafted. However if you don’t believe he is then the value isn’t anywhere close to what you potentially could get even from an aging harden. I think he and maxey in 3 years would be an incredible backcourt but by that point who knows what embiid would be. 

5 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

agreed. i don't even like harden but he's super talented...putting up 22.5/10/8 while basically sleepwalking this season. 

Have you watched him though? He lost his first step and his shooting % from FG and 3 are down a good amount. 

And that hammy is acting up again. 

16 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

washed up harden is having a down year on a dysfunctional team...and putting up 22/10/8   

Yeah. Thats still productive and will be a great help to Embiid. But hes been on a steady decline. Dont want to see what his contract extension looks like.