2 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said:

i know like why is everyone assuming he's going to sign here for free if we get embarrassed and knocked out in the first round, he wouldnt want to come here.

plus, the sixers need to make moves to create cap room to sign him....at the very least adding picks to tobi to get another team to take his contract. and then trading simmons....to......???????

Just now, nipples said:

Doesn’t take much to have a change of heart before then. These dudes recruit each other constantly. Always the chance of some superstar getting in Harden’s ear and convincing him to join him somewhere. 

I’d be willing to bet he still chooses the sixers in this case. He would still have morey in Philly (who he apparently loves) and embiid as a superstar. So he has 2 of the things he would want and really the key being morey who other teams don’t have. I also don’t think it was a coincidence that there was a report of tampering issues because I’m betting there definitely was talk between morey and harden’s camp knowing what was going down behind the scenes with the nets and then this blew up the past couple weeks. 

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

plus, the sixers need to make moves to create cap room to sign him....at the very least adding picks to tobi to get another team to take his contract. and then trading simmons....to......???????

morey being stubborn as he is, he's probably going to keep simmons until the end of his contract, hate to say it.

Just now, toughfighter83 said:

morey being stubborn as he is, he's probably going to keep simmons until the end of his contract, hate to say it.

Yeah ok.

18 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said:

yup, like jimmy butler changed his mind and went to the heat.

Jimmy butler did not change his mind. Jimmy butler was never going to re-sign with a sixers unless they gave him a five year max contract (especially if everything contractually was even with Miami having no state income tax) and the Sixers didn’t want to do that. Jimmy butler went to Miami (besides no 5 year max) because the 76ers decided Ben Simmons was more important to the future then giving Jimmy Butler 5 year max and trading Ben Simmons (along with firing Brett brown). 

there’s even more into that that if Jimmy Butler re-signed with the Sixers, Tobias Harris was out (there was that report he was gone if that occurred), they would’ve had to also trade Ben Simmons at that point in time (also reports leaked Butler didn’t like or want to play with brown and simmons) and likely fire brown relatively close to that point in time just to make it work with Jimmy Butler. In hindsight they probably should’ve done all that but at that point in time they valued simmons, Harris and brown over butler with a bunch of miles on him on a 5 year max when he was 33 and 34. 

Dallas clearing cap space for the offseason?

7 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

Dallas clearing cap space for the offseason?

Not sure why Toronto makes the move for porzingis unless they are going to try and flip him as an expiring contract at the end of the 22-23 season and get draft picks for taking him. Cause frankly he’s hurt a lot and nowhere worth that contract for 2.5 more years. he’s a taller and more broken down version of siakam and siakam is shooting 35% from 3 and porzingis is shooting 28%. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not sure why Toronto makes the move for porzingis unless they are going to try and flip him as an expiring contract at the end of the 22-23 season and get draft picks for taking him. Cause frankly he’s hurt a lot and nowhere worth that contract for 2.5 more years. he’s a taller and more broken down version of siakam and siakam is shooting 35% from 3 and porzingis is shooting 28%. 

I don't get it for Toronto either, unless they think they can move Siakam for something else they really want.

2 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

I don't get it for Toronto either, unless they think they can move Siakam for something else they really want.

The only way I think it makes sense for Toronto is if in the 23-24 offseason they are gonna use the picks Dallas gives them for taking on Porzingis’ contract and his expiring contract to trade to get somebody they want. Otherwise you’re just taking on a bad contract for two years. Maybe they look to deal siakam with those picks they get in order to pull a player they want. Then trade porzingis when he becomes an expiring contract. 

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The only way I think it makes sense for Toronto is if in the 23-24 offseason they are gonna use the picks Dallas gives them for taking on Porzingis’ contract and his expiring contract to trade to get somebody they want. Otherwise you’re just taking on a bad contract for two years. Maybe they look to deal siakam with those picks they get in order to pull a player they want. Then trade porzingis when he becomes an expiring contract. 

Ujiri is way too smart to take that contract on without a plan to somehow get value from it.  If it happens, it will be for a good reason.  There aren't many executives in sports I would blindly trust to always make the smart move but he is one of them.

 

Bucks just traded for Ibaka.

 

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

 

ibaka to the bucks is part of that

2 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

Ujiri is way too smart to take that contract on without a plan to somehow get value from it.  If it happens, it will be for a good reason.  There aren't many executives in sports I would blindly trust to always make the smart move but he is one of them.

I’m guessing it’s geared for the 23-24 season. I don’t see them in the market for a big time player this offseason. Would make more sense with assets (picks to take on porzingis) and an expiring contract of porzingis at that point in time. 

Just now, mr_hunt said:

 

ibaka to the bucks is part of that

as is this...

[Charania] The Pistons are trading Josh Jackson and Trey Lyles to Sacramento, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Four-team deal with Detroit, Sacramento, Milwaukee and LAC.

I hope Olynyk isn't in that deal.  I'd really like him as an addition to the 6ers.

there goes thad...

[Charania] The Toronto Raptors are trading Goran Dragic to the San Antonio Spurs for Thad Young, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

there goes thad...

[Charania] The Toronto Raptors are trading Goran Dragic to the San Antonio Spurs for Thad Young, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

Why would the Spurs need another guard?

Just now, Shepard Wong said:

Why would the Spurs need another guard?

sxm is saying dragic won't stay there...look for another move soon. 

Just now, mr_hunt said:

sxm is saying dragic won't stay there...look for another move soon. 

Maybe the Spurs want Porzingis???

4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

there goes thad...

[Charania] The Toronto Raptors are trading Goran Dragic to the San Antonio Spurs for Thad Young, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

Good trade for the raptors cause they could use young and don’t have to (likely lose) go to the buyout market to try and convince him to go there. 

spurs not really sure the benefit unless they think he can help murray even more. Guessing he’s likely dealt to another team 

[Wojnarowski] ESPN Sources: Full trade participants: Kings: Donte DiVincenzo, Trey Lyles and Josh Jackson. Bucks: Serge Ibaka, two future second-round picks, cash. Clippers: Rodney Hood, Semi Ojele. Pistons: Marvin Bagley Jr.

8 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

there goes thad...

[Charania] The Toronto Raptors are trading Goran Dragic to the San Antonio Spurs for Thad Young, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

What! They have a damn roster full of 6'8" dudes why not another 

[Wojnarowski] ESPN Sources: The Spurs -- who are trading for Toronto's Goran Dragic -- are expected to negotiate a contract buyout with Dragic. Among the interested expected to be interested once he becomes a free agent: Dallas, Milwaukee, Chicago, Clippers.

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Good trade for the raptors cause they could use young and don’t have to (likely lose) go to the buyout market to try and convince him to go there. 

spurs not really sure the benefit unless they think he can help murray even more. Guessing he’s likely dealt to another team 

And Derrick White. 

But if he does go to the Mavs then does Brunson get traded because he is on an expiring.