28 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

from the nets message board Ben thread:

 

I had a vision that Ben used this time off to start shooting right handed and we're getting him as a 40% high volume 3pt shooter.

One man's vision is another man's delusion.

43 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I said this yesterday (cause i had a Arizona coach who worked for Phoenix last year explain to me) the worst case scenario for the suns is they match a offer sheet and look to deal ayton down the road or Qualify offer him and then look to deal him. Ayton is only 23 years old and even if they go to trade him a year or two from now he’s going to be a better player at that point in time. they’re still gonna be able to get better value than what they’re gonna let him just walk away on a RFA offer sheet. 

I don’t disagree that they would try to trade him (hence sabonis deal) because they are cheap and don’t believe he is a max money player. they’re not gonna just let him walk away they’ll deal him. I also know Paul loves him and so do the suns coaches. They love his defense and what he eventually can become offensively over the next couple years. 

But the word is he doesn't want to go in the luxury tax 

I just saw a video title from ESPN claiming Simmons can be the Nets version of Giannis...

Were we the only ones paying attention for the last year?

Just now, vikas83 said:

I just saw a video title from ESPN claiming Simmons can be the Nets version of Giannis...

Were we the only ones paying attention for the last year?

This is perfect.  Get all the hype going for him, put more pressure on him.  Let him turtle harder and let others get the chance to be disappointed.

 

30 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

But the word is he doesn't want to go in the luxury tax 

I live out here it’s nonstop suns talk along with i have some nice connections. And I’m telling you they will trade picks away to get rid of Landry Shamet‘s contract before they let DeAndre Ayton walk away for an offer sheet. Literally every day I listen to this and I’m telling you they’re not gonna let him walk away to a restricted offer sheet.

 they were going to trade for sabonis and he’s owed 18.5 and 19.4 the next 2 years because they thought he was as good as ayton on what would be a better contract. They weren’t getting nothing for him or minimal what they get in a restricted offer sheet

if you wanna make a bet with me using our avatars that the suns allowed him to walk away with just a restriction offer sheet then I’ll take that bet all day 

also have sarver say this:

"That’s gonna come with the territory here,” Sarver said of paying the luxury tax soon. "I don’t know if that’s next season (2021-22) or the one after that (2022-23), but we know it’s coming. We see ourselves as a taxpayer, and that’s just part of what it’s gonna take to bring home a championship.”

do I believe it fully? No.

also a great article about the whole suns situation is this one. Where he gets to the same point I’m making to you that the suns are going to match any offer sheet that is put out there.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/why-the-suns-didnt-extend-deandre-ayton-and-what-it-means-for-phoenix-and-its-center-moving-forward/

What happens now that the extension deadline has passed?

Now that the Oct. 18 deadline has come and gone, Ayton is set to become a restricted free agent next summer. At that point, one of two things will almost certainly happen:

• Ayton signs a long-term contract. That contract might come from the Suns or it might come through an offer sheet from another team that the Suns eventually max, but the end result is the same: Ayton remains in Phoenix on a new deal.
• Ayton signs the one year, $16.4 million qualifying offer that Phoenix must make to him in order to retain his rights as a restricted free agent. If he does so, he would become an unrestricted free agent in 2023.
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• In theory, a young team jumping into the tax should be expected to stay there as long as they keep paying their best players … but the Suns have an escape hatch available to them after the 2022-23 season if they want it. Chris Paul is guaranteed only $15.8 million over the final two years of his contract. If he has slipped out of All-Star form by then, the Suns can waive him and use the stretch provision to spread that money over five seasons. Lowering Paul's cap hit by 90 percent could allow them to keep Ayton and Bridges (and perhaps even re-sign Cam Johnson) while staying below the tax. What this essentially means is that paying Ayton what he wants only needs to vault Phoenix into tax territory for one year. Afterward, it can play things by ear with Paul. If the Suns think he's still capable of leading them to a championship, they can keep him and pay a hefty tax bill. If not? They can save money by letting him walk.

• Robert Sarver isn't Steve Ballmer, but he's not Ebenezer Scrooge either. Barring an almost unimaginable degree of frugality, he's going to pay the tax in the 2022-23 season. The only real questions that remain are just how deep into the tax he's going and just how long he's willing to stay there. 

Any more on the JJ rumors?

39 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I just saw a video title from ESPN claiming Simmons can be the Nets version of Giannis...

Were we the only ones paying attention for the last year?

 

11 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Any more on the JJ rumors?

He has to be making a killing with his pod and now ESPN but no doubt he still is in shape. A shooter of his quality just doesn't forget how to shoot. 

 

 

Well at least Maya seems happy. 

 

 

This is what the JJ Facebook buzz is all about.  JJs likes on Twitter

 

42 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

 

I'll believe it when I see it.  Should be Embiid and Harden and Harris and Maxey though.   Need Embiid and Harden to get as much play time together as possible. 

2 minutes ago, rambo said:

I'll believe it when I see it.  Should be Embiid and Harden and Harris and Maxey though.   Need Embiid and Harden to get as much play time together as possible. 

I assumed those would be the pairings too.  How sad is it that our coach feels somewhat celebratory because we can now have a point guard on the floor at all times?  Only this team.

Shake is back tonight

Maxey has Dort on him tongiht. Good defender. Soon Dort will have Harden, and Maxey will be blowing by someone like Giddey or Tre Mann.

Paul reed out there looking like thybulle. 

I didnt think Curry was so important to our energy level. This seems uninspired.

well, heres a little spurt of energy to end the half at least.

Thank  you Maxey

This is encouraging if true about Harden. A little snippet from an insider article.

He had thrived as a lead scorer in Houston, but part of the reason he chose Brooklyn had been an understanding that his advancing age no longer left him capable of carrying outsized scoring expectations for protracted periods.

So maybe theres a chance he plays the Butler role and defers mostly to Embiid rather than being a big ball stopper.

Here we go. Embiid is grabbing his wrist.