Can someone google translate that 

 

 

 

26 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Can someone google translate that 

Glad I'm not the only one scratching my head about that.

Former Eagles news 

 

NFL unsurprisingly botching the return to play 

45 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

I am 100% supportive and hopeful of not having an NFL season.  

I don't need to see another labor tug of war, MLB style, where the fans are the rope.  

Actually Zach, this is a global pandemic.  Playing professional football and feeling safe are kind of mutually exclusive.  Players don't want to live in a bubble for the whole season, want to be tucked in with a perfectly safe return to play option, want all their salary, and #wanttoplay.

Well, they can't have all those things.  

Either offer up your own solution or take the year off so you can feel safe.  I respect either one.  Just don't complain to the rest of the country, which has been dealing with this problem for 6 months.  

Don't play.  Hit pause and come back in 2021.  Then you can feel safe.  

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Here’s the thing, Zach.  If you opt out, you forfeit your salary and have to pay back a prorated share of your sign on bonus.  NFL offered a proposal for cancelled games and the response is the players do this We Want To Play thing.  NFL has announced protocols but the union doesn’t like them and is trying to leverage The owners.  The owners face significant financial loss and are trying to leverage the players.  The public, we see through the BS.  A responsible player would have gone to their respective NFL cities and self quarantined two weeks ago.  

29 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I am 100% supportive and hopeful of not having an NFL season.  

I don't need to see another labor tug of war, MLB style, where the fans are the rope.  

Actually Zach, this is a global pandemic.  Playing professional football and feeling safe are kind of mutually exclusive.  Players don't want to live in a bubble for the whole season, want to be tucked in with a perfectly safe return to play option, want all their salary, and #wanttoplay.

Well, they can't have all those things.  

Either offer up your own solution or take the year off so you can feel safe.  I respect either one.  Just don't complain to the rest of the country, which has been dealing with this problem for 6 months.  

Don't play.  Hit pause and come back in 2021.  Then you can feel safe.  

So what exactly do they want? They want everything their way, but I've yet to hear them post suggestions. 

27 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

So what exactly do they want? They want everything their way, but I've yet to hear them post suggestions. 

Daily testing, no preseason games, they have a specified ramp up period, I forget specifics, something like 21 days conditioning, 10 days practice, 10 pads, and whatever financial stipulations they have. Only one made public I believe was guaranteed salaries are paid regardless of games/canceled season.

If their money is in jeopardy will they play anyway?

18 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Seems fair

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/07/18/nfls-proposal-dramatically-cuts-player-pay-if-season-is-canceled/

Curious if they'll accept that

14 hours ago, downundermike said:

Was good in The Book of Eli

Lots of method actors are really good

48 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Here’s the thing, Zach.  If you opt out, you forfeit your salary and have to pay back a prorated share of your sign on bonus.  NFL offered a proposal for cancelled games and the response is the players do this We Want To Play thing.  NFL has announced protocols but the union doesn’t like them and is trying to leverage The owners.  The owners face significant financial loss and are trying to leverage the players.  The public, we see through the BS.  A responsible player would have gone to their respective NFL cities and self quarantined two weeks ago.  

Honestly it kind of feels like the players and owners d**ked around thinking the virus would effect them cause their season didn’t start until late July and by then things would normalize back. I’m positive there were discussions behind the scenes but if i had to guess none of them really ramped up until it became obvious it was going to clash with their season. It’s been 5 months going on 6 since this started and yet 10 days before training camp starts it’s boiling over. 

 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Honestly it kind of feels like the players and owners d**ked around thinking the virus would effect them cause their season didn’t start until late July and by then things would normalize back. I’m positive there were discussions behind the scenes but if i had to guess none of them really ramped up until it became obvious it was going to clash with their season. It’s been 5 months going on 6 since this started and yet 10 days before training camp starts it’s boiling over. 

They absolutely did 

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Goes back to my previous comment. Feels like the owners and players d***ed around  until this point. However seems more strategic on on the owners’ end based off how Brandt put it. it also felt like the players didn’t exactly rush out there trying to get something down in the previous months when it looked like it was going to clash with their season. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

They absolutely did 

I think like Brandt said the owners might have actually been strategic in their posturing and how they went about it. Their d***ing around might have been a plan that worked in their favor. I think the players just d**ked around until it became glaring it was going to be an issue and now scrambling to get something worked out. 

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think like Brandt said the owners might have actually been strategic in their posturing and how they went about it. Their d***ing around might have been a plan that worked in their favor. I think the players just d**ked around until it became glaring it was going to be an issue and now scrambling to get something worked out. 

How are the owners getting around the guaranteed salaries...if they play a significantly shortened season?  It seems to like like give-and-take will be needed on both sides.

 

4 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Prediction: If the league delays the opening of the season by two weeks (not that it has been hinted at, just because they built into the schedule the capability to do it and then reschedule games for later in the year such that they could still play all sixteen games and have the playoffs and a Super Bowl "on time"), they will not be able to pull it off successfully. In other words, they will have to cancel other games and play a shortened season.

I don't buy that.  They can push the Super Bowl back.  The entire month of Feb is wide open on the NFL calendar. 

 

 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I am 100% supportive and hopeful of not having an NFL season.  

I don't need to see another labor tug of war, MLB style, where the fans are the rope.  

Actually Zach, this is a global pandemic.  Playing professional football and feeling safe are kind of mutually exclusive.  Players don't want to live in a bubble for the whole season, want to be tucked in with a perfectly safe return to play option, want all their salary, and #wanttoplay.

Well, they can't have all those things.  

Either offer up your own solution or take the year off so you can feel safe.  I respect either one.  Just don't complain to the rest of the country, which has been dealing with this problem for 6 months.  

Don't play.  Hit pause and come back in 2021.  Then you can feel safe.  

I'm so sick of the public posturing in this, and I'm sad to see so many players just fall in line with the union order to make it public to get the public sentiment on the side of the players.   

I'll be going back to work in the fall, in some manner or another, and I'll either be my most effective, but least safe (teaching in front of all my students with no restrictions like we used to do); I'll be my least effective, but most safe (teaching 100% online) or I'll be dealing with some ridiculous hybrid situation that will be deemed 'safe enough'.  Safety is never guaranteed, and the lie is when someone tells you that you are safe.  I remember the Titanic was called 'the Unsinkable Ship'.   Well, we know how that went... primarily because it was touted as 'unsinkable', and they wanted to make headlines, safety protocols were largely ignored.   

37 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

How are the owners getting around the guaranteed salaries...if they play a significantly shortened season?  It seems to like like give-and-take will be needed on both sides.

I can’t answer thay. My point was more this should’ve been discussed more in-depth with Contingency plans and not d***ing Assuming it was going to get better and couldn’t get worse from when the pandemic started. It felt like all along the owners/goodell didn’t think the pandemic would effect their season as it was 5-6 months down the road. And players really weren’t pushing harder to get things done. Frankly both d***ed around to the last minute. Sadly based off Brandt’s tweet it feels like the owners had a purposeful plan in doing so. 

48 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

I don't buy that.  They can push the Super Bowl back.  The entire month of Feb is wide open on the NFL calendar. 

 

Pushing back the start of the season is always possible.  However, the way the case numbers are raising in many states now, extra month or so may not give NFL and the players the cushion they want.  Everyone wears a mask now, so that the NFL players don't need to wear a mask in the game.