40 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We’re projected to start Maddox on the outside. We’re just as sad. 

No.  We got "our CB".  Or did you forget?

 

The issue isn't the move, the issue is the proclamation that Apple seemed to be the apple of their eye.  Maybe I'm reading more into it than was intended.  At this point Eli Apple is "a" CB.  If a team or media type sees him as more than that, they are sadly mistaken.  Had the headline read, "The Panthers got a CB."  I would have said nothing.  To declare, "The Panthers got their CB" is sad.  

 

 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

No.  We got "our CB".  Or did you forget?

 

The issue isn't the move, the issue is the proclamation that Apple seemed to be the apple of their eye.  Maybe I'm reading more into it than was intended.  At this point Eli Apple is "a" CB.  If a team or media type sees him as more than that, they are sadly mistaken.  Had the headline read, "The Panthers got a CB."  I would have said nothing.  To declare, "The Panthers got their CB" is sad.  

 

This. 

2 hours ago, Duckwing said:

I would agree. The Lee Jackson combo was equal or better tactically but on an operational and strategic comparison... it's not close. I also find it fascinating how the western theater trained Union officers how to win. No Confederate general would have conceived of the Vicksburg campaign not of the March to the Sea.  Also a totally different psychology grew out West than in the East where they were hamstrung by the fear of losing. Examples abound of generals doing poorly in the East (Howard, Hooker,Slocum...) who did far better in the West. 

These are interesting conclusions to make considering the vast advantages the Union had in terms of troops, materiel... nearly everything.

All the Union had to do was outlast the Confederacy. 

36 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

From Carson:

 

Very well stated by Carson.  

 

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

No.  We got "our CB".  Or did you forget?

 

The issue isn't the move, the issue is the proclamation that Apple seemed to be the apple of their eye.  Maybe I'm reading more into it than was intended.  At this point Eli Apple is "a" CB.  If a team or media type sees him as more than that, they are sadly mistaken.  Had the headline read, "The Panthers got a CB."  I would have said nothing.  To declare, "The Panthers got their CB" is sad.  

 

You're reading waaay too much into it lol.

2 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

You're reading waaay too much into it lol.

yeah... ok.

Tommy got 72. I got 66. I bet @FranklinFldEBUpper would get like a 90 on this quiz. 

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

These are interesting conclusions to make considering the vast advantages the Union had in terms of troops, materiel... nearly everything.

All the Union had to do was outlast the Confederacy. 

This will require a lengthy response. I will be happy to do it but I beg the blog’s indulgence. If it is deemed as clutter or worse I will abstain.

53 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Tommy got 72. I got 66. I bet @FranklinFldEBUpper would get like a 90 on this quiz. 

I did terribly, I got 50

2 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

From Carson:

 

Strong, thoughtful words for sure....

It's sad because racism will never end.  It's always going to be around.  

3 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Tommy got 72. I got 66. I bet @FranklinFldEBUpper would get like a 90 on this quiz. 

Maybe. But I'm too stupid to figure out how to even take the test. 

4 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

These are interesting conclusions to make considering the vast advantages the Union had in terms of troops, materiel... nearly everything.

All the Union had to do was outlast the Confederacy. 

Not as simple as that.  There was a lot of sentiment in the union about the cost of the war and whether it might not be best to let the South go. As the war dragged on, there was more and more opposition in the Union.  The politics were significant and those impacted everything from military leadership to the degree of punitive action to be taken against the South both during and after the war.  The Emancipation Proclamation is an example.   It did not argue to free slaves in the Union, just in the rebellious states. (Of course, it would have been Unconstitutional if challenged as it would have been taking property without compensation (from the government).). Johnson really did a good job in moving the plan forward for reconciliation and got impeached for it.  I am heartened to see Interest in the history in fellow Bloggers. 

4 hours ago, justrelax said:

This will require a lengthy response. I will be happy to do it but I beg the blog’s indulgence. If it is deemed as clutter or worse I will abstain.

I started and realized I would be going on and on. Interested in your take. 

5 hours ago, justrelax said:

This will require a lengthy response. I will be happy to do it but I beg the blog’s indulgence. If it is deemed as clutter or worse I will abstain.

I am also interested. Not a history buff in any sense of the word but I do enjoy reading about things from the perspective of those who are really knowledgable on a subject. 

Also it helps me prepare for when I watch the jeopardy reruns on netflix 

9 hours ago, 315Eagles said:

Strong, thoughtful words for sure....

It's sad because racism will never end.  It's always going to be around.  

Unlike the buildings of Minneapolis at this point...

11 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

These are interesting conclusions to make considering the vast advantages the Union had in terms of troops, materiel... nearly everything.

All the Union had to do was outlast the Confederacy. 

As a quick answer... by 1864 there was far less support for continuing the war than you might imagine. The Democratic party was campaigning on a peace plank with former Union Commander General George B McClellan as the candidate. Mid term elections had not gone well either. In point of fact political support for the war was particularly low in the business echelons of Philly. The Confederacy believed, as did Lincoln and his supporters, that if Atlanta hadn't fallen, the Shenandoah Valley cleared, an Mobile Bay hadn't been bottled up...the elections might have swung toward 'peace at any price'....

As a Canadian, one thing I never really understood was why there was such a sense of anger and frustration in US society. I have lived in Canada nearly all my life, lived for a while in New Zealand, Singapore, and Dubai. Each one of those countries also have issues through the roof and serious divergence of views, but I've never seen anger so prevalent in a society as I have in the US, what gives?

The US is a greater, more successful and prosperous country than all four of those countries combined 10x over, so what gives?

12 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

These are interesting conclusions to make considering the vast advantages the Union had in terms of troops, materiel... nearly everything.

All the Union had to do was outlast the Confederacy. 

My Junior High history teacher in Toronto used to swear up and down that if Stonewall Jackson had not died a few weeks before, the South would have won the Battle of Gettysburg and most likely the war. Used to say that Jackson was the most brilliant tactician the US had ever produced and that the Lee/Jackson combo was unbeatable.

13 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

From Carson:

 

Love that man!!!!!!

11 hours ago, justrelax said:

This will require a lengthy response. I will be happy to do it but I beg the blog’s indulgence. If it is deemed as clutter or worse I will abstain.

Please comment J.R.

38 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

As a Canadian, one thing I never really understood was why there was such a sense of anger and frustration in US society. I have lived in Canada nearly all my life, lived for a while in New Zealand, Singapore, and Dubai. Each one of those countries also have issues through the roof and serious divergence of views, but I've never seen anger so prevalent in a society as I have in the US, what gives?

The US is a greater, more successful and prosperous country than all four of those countries combined 10x over, so what gives?

Well maybe we're kinda spoiled. 

34 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

My Junior High history teacher in Toronto used to swear up and down that if Stonewall Jackson had not died a few weeks before, the South would have won the Battle of Gettysburg and most likely the war. Used to say that Jackson was the most brilliant tactician the US had ever produced and that the Lee/Jackson combo was unbeatable.

Your Jr. High teacher would be wrong. That said people die in war, it's kinda the point of war. Generals died on both sides. As was said the south really never had the resources to win. 

Stonewall was a HUGE loss for Lee and the south..Lee wasn't all he was cracked up to be.  He refused to listen to his officers , mainly Longstreet , at GB. Had he listened things may have had a different outcome. 

 

No doubt though , stonewall was a big big loss.

Just now, Original Sin said:

Stonewall was a HUGE loss for Lee and the south..Lee wasn't all he was cracked up to be.  He refused to listen to his officers , mainly Longstreet , at GB. Had he listened things may have had a different outcome. 

 

No doubt though , stonewall was a big big loss.

At Gettysburg I agree.