9 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Not really a puzzle guy.  But I’ve had this for about 10 years and decided to open it up.  The field was fairly easy.  The hard part is the stands and my wife kinda bailed on me early.   Not sure if I’ll have it in me to finish it.  

As someone that enjoys puzzles, that looks effing awful

23 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Going to give this one a try too. My Arguing about Slavery arrived today but so did my Smithsonian so I am currently reading the latter. 

You’re going to love Miller’s book and you’re going to love John Quincy Adams. We get the Smithsonian too. Good stuff all around.

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

whats fused?

The reports are it is a spinal issue so I would presume he has fused vertebrae.  

33 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The reports are it is a spinal issue so I would presume he has fused vertebrae.  

Eh shouldn't be career threatening unless it's actually something like ankylosing spondylitis.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Eh shouldn't be career threatening unless it's actually something like ankylosing spondylitis.

I'm sure that's a real medical term but it sounds like something Ned Flanders would say as a doctor.

2 minutes ago, twistr said:

I'm sure that's a real medical term but it sounds like something Ned Flanders would say as a doctor.

That's where joints on your body just start fussing.  Im pretty sure that's what the guitarist of motley crue had from what I gathered watching "The Dirt"

17 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Eh shouldn't be career threatening unless it's actually something like ankylosing spondylitis.

Was thinking the same thing....

If we can riot and blow up buildings and cars surely we can now practice and play football 

42 minutes ago, justrelax said:

You’re going to love Miller’s book and you’re going to love John Quincy Adams. We get the Smithsonian too. Good stuff all around.

@BigEFly and @NCiggles

John Quincy Adams is a hero of mine, big-time. I consider him one of the greatest public servants we've ever had and one of the most influential. I was aware of him, as any history buff would be, but not to the degree it is now. He has a major part in the Amistad business, which is part and parcel of what Arguing About Slavery covers. When you mentioned the Smithsonian, I missed my chance to state that, without Mr. Adams, there would be no Smithsonian.

James Smithson, an Englishman, left his fortune, with a brief sidetrack,to the US to "to found in Washington, under the name of the Smithsonian Institution, an establishment for the increase and diffusion of knowledge among men." That money was promptly rerouted to corrupt Southern politicians until Adams stepped in. It took a few years but he forced the thieves to restore the money for its original purpose. There's a lot of documentation on this whole business, should it strike your fancy.

Just one more reason to love J.Q. Adams who, as with all of the Adamses, was difficult to like - irascible, sarcastic, always thought he was the smartest guy in the room (and was usually right) -  but impossible to ignore. He became a Congressman after being president, and did not in any way consider it beneath him. Rather, he thought it an honor and an obligation, that he embraced. 

If you've seen Amistad, the Spielberg film, that's Anthony Hopkins as Adams. Hopkins had it right, he was famous for having his feet up.

27 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

That's where joints on your body just start fussing.  Im pretty sure that's what the guitarist of motley crue had from what I gathered watching "The Dirt"

Yep, Mick Mars.

14 minutes ago, justrelax said:

@BigEFly and @NCiggles

John Quincy Adams is a hero of mine, big-time. I consider him one of the greatest public servants we've ever had and one of the most influential. I was aware of him, as any history buff would be, but not to the degree it is now. He has a major part in the Amistad business, which is part and parcel of what Arguing About Slavery covers. When you mentioned the Smithsonian, I missed my chance to state that, without Mr. Adams, there would be no Smithsonian.

James Smithson, an Englishman, left his fortune, with a brief sidetrack,to the US to "to found in Washington, under the name of the Smithsonian Institution, an establishment for the increase and diffusion of knowledge among men." That money was promptly rerouted to corrupt Southern politicians until Adams stepped in. It took a few years but he forced the thieves to restore the money for its original purpose. There's a lot of documentation on this whole business, should it strike your fancy.

Just one more reason to love J.Q. Adams who, as with all of the Adamses, was difficult to like - irascible, sarcastic, always thought he was the smartest guy in the room (and was usually right) -  but impossible to ignore. He became a Congressman after being president, and did not in any way consider it beneath him. Rather, he thought it an honor and an obligation, that he embraced. 

If you've seen Amistad, the Spielberg film, that's Anthony Hopkins as Adams. Hopkins had it right, he was famous for having his feet up.

The Smithsonian was established in large part to house the biological samples collected during the Wilkes Expedition. The Wilkes Expedition is notable in at least two respects. The expedition  was authorized by Congress to find the "holes in the poles”, which, at the time, were believed to be the entrance to center of the Earth. Additionally,  tHe expedition might represent the only mutiny on a US naval vessel.

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Not really a puzzle guy.  But I’ve had this for about 10 years and decided to open it up.  The field was fairly easy.  The hard part is the stands and my wife kinda bailed on me early.   Not sure if I’ll have it in me to finish it.  

Keep after it. I see you have me in my seat already, you're better at this than you give yourself credit for...

 

59 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Eh shouldn't be career threatening unless it's actually something like ankylosing spondylitis.

Gesundheit

 

55 minutes ago, justrelax said:

@BigEFly and @NCiggles

John Quincy Adams is a hero of mine, big-time. I consider him one of the greatest public servants we've ever had and one of the most influential. I was aware of him, as any history buff would be, but not to the degree it is now. He has a major part in the Amistad business, which is part and parcel of what Arguing About Slavery covers. When you mentioned the Smithsonian, I missed my chance to state that, without Mr. Adams, there would be no Smithsonian.

James Smithson, an Englishman, left his fortune, with a brief sidetrack,to the US to "to found in Washington, under the name of the Smithsonian Institution, an establishment for the increase and diffusion of knowledge among men." That money was promptly rerouted to corrupt Southern politicians until Adams stepped in. It took a few years but he forced the thieves to restore the money for its original purpose. There's a lot of documentation on this whole business, should it strike your fancy.

Just one more reason to love J.Q. Adams who, as with all of the Adamses, was difficult to like - irascible, sarcastic, always thought he was the smartest guy in the room (and was usually right) -  but impossible to ignore. He became a Congressman after being president, and did not in any way consider it beneath him. Rather, he thought it an honor and an obligation, that he embraced. 

If you've seen Amistad, the Spielberg film, that's Anthony Hopkins as Adams. Hopkins had it right, he was famous for having his feet up.

John Adams and one of my wife’s many gr.....gr grandmothers, Mary Adams Sheffield, had the same great grandfather, Henry Adams.  Guess he and John Q. Adams are relatives by marriage.  Both her parents’ have a number of families that go back to the early 1600s in the US as do a number of my mother’s families.  The funny thing is that a lot of us in this country with ancestors back to the 1600s and even the 1700s are related at some point. 

32 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Oh I see you.  You’re wearing green.  

Im the guy flashing. You got a puzzle of my ding dong! 

3 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Cunningham never even studied film when he was in Philly; he was all he was ever capable of being.  I cheered very hard for the 14-2 Falcons against the 15-1 Vikings in the playoffs.

I felt glad for Reggie White when he won a Super Bowl — even in GB — because he was the best player and leader he could have been in Philly.  Cunningham frankly never put in the effort.

He did in minnesota when he finally had a coach with an offensive game plan. Why did he need to study film under buddy when the game plan was, go out and make 5 plays a game.

Maybe under a different staff RC would have had to put in the work.

Rooting against randall with the vikings because of how you perceived his time in philly is nothing but sour grapes 

6 hours ago, bpac55 said:

All the talk about Randall and Vick, man the Eagles sure have had some athletic enigmas at quarterback.  Were they just who they were and not good enough or with different weapons, coaching and healthy bodies could they have been all-timers?

Either way, we have had some of the most fun, exciting, athletically gifted quarterbacks to watch here as frustrating as it was and as much as it sucks none of them won a ring.  

Sadly, their athleticism was ahead of their coaches' ability to maximize their ability... and their athletic ability enabled both to sort of disregard the cognitive side of the game to an extent and just rely on their athletic ability to keep them above a certain level of effectiveness.  But, imagine how effective they might have been, with the right coaches to harness that athleticism, and channel it in a more constructive way.  Sadly, we never really got to see the best of Randall Cunningham.  Just as he was coming into becoming "that guy" in 1990, Doug Scovil died.  Doug was molding Cunningham, had the respect of Cunningham... and then he passed away, Ryan pulled Cunningham in the playoffs, gets fired, and Kotite is raised to HC.  Then Cunningham takes the low hit from Bryce Paup in the pocket, and it changed his mindset.  Then, he got hurt on the run in 1993... with a broken leg.  We saw a little of what Cunningham could have been here with the Vikings in 1998... and should have been the MVP and the Offensive Player of the Year and the Comeback Player of the Year that year.  

56 minutes ago, Utebird said:

He did in minnesota when he finally had a coach with an offensive game plan. Why did he need to study film under buddy when the game plan was, go out and make 5 plays a game.

Maybe under a different staff RC would have had to put in the work.

Rooting against randall with the vikings because of how you perceived his time in philly is nothing but sour grapes 

FWIW, Buddy wasn’t the correct hire either 

3 hours ago, BigEFly said:

John Adams and one of my wife’s many gr.....gr grandmothers, Mary Adams Sheffield, had the same great grandfather, Henry Adams.  Guess he and John Q. Adams are relatives by marriage.  Both her parents’ have a number of families that go back to the early 1600s in the US as do a number of my mother’s families.  The funny thing is that a lot of us in this country with ancestors back to the 1600s and even the 1700s are related at some point. 

Just Wow. The Adams are the top of the mountain. We have presidential cats. They include Quincy and Abigail. I am first generation, father from Germany fleeing Hitler, mother from Ireland, fleeing starvation. My wife’s ancestors were brought over on the slave boats in the late 17th century.. 

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/richard-sherman-white-quarterbacks-carson-wentz-speak-up-racism-nfl

3 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

FWIW, Buddy wasn’t the correct hire either 

Who else should have been hired??? Buddy was coming off a super bowl win as the DC of the best ever assembled defense. Its common for coaches from super bowl winning teams to get hired as head coaches for other teams. Not too mention i dont think it would have mattered who was hired because the owner was an idiot 

Non-political opinion for the early morning. Because I just read and keep reading all these posts from black people taking about how white people speak up for all other injustices unless it involves black people. And Richard Sherman happy Wentz and other white QBs have said something because they usually dont. Ive seen a bunch of these types of comments.

Seriously? We just going to pretend that for generations any time a white person even attempts to sympathize they get told "You aint black! You can never understand! Your family wasnt slaves! Stop pretending you understand! Shut yo mouth!"

Uhhhh... yeah. Thats why you cant get more white people to fight for your cause. Cause you are just as racist and for generations you havent allowed anyone who isnt black to stand with you. 

And look at every time a white person speaks up on this. Usually leads off with, but always in there somewhere "Im not black. I could never understand. But...." Hell Carson is being praised for his perfect statement and 2 out of the 4 paragraphs are literally him cheapening his position by explaining he knows he can never understand but wants to say something anyway. Guys, itd mean more to people, and would help more if you didnt tell the people who want to help that they dont know what theyre talking about. If they didnt have to lead with a disclaimer that "This opinion is coming from an outsider who doesnt know what hes talking about but gonna say something anyway" It might hold more weight.

Why do you think everyone has to lead off with these disclaimers? They know theyre about to be attacked by a black person for even saying anything at all. So they try to minimize it by putting in that disclaimer. For generations we have been conditioned to stay quiet about racial relations. I saw some idiot in this very thread not too long ago tell WestPA that saying "black" is offensive. How ridiculous. Now dont Fing act like we never wanted to help. YOU didnt let us. We cant even say "black" without being scared to offend. Now youre going to get mad about us not speaking on it. Idiots....

To be fair, they're right. We can't ever understand. I've never had to worry about a traffic stop, or walking in my neighborhood at night, or jogging in my neighborhood, or literally just existing in a park. 

When I see other white people getting ish for saying something it's usually one of a couple things: them trying to say how a certain protest/action should be done; cherry picking MLK quotes for whatever argument they're trying to make regarding the first issue (one I'm seeing a lot currently because of the riots, but many don't realize he has a quote about rioting being "the language of the unheard"); saying "all lives matter" at any point. Those are some big ones that I usually see, others may know more.

I THINK that for us as white people, it is more about listening than speaking. We need to listen to what their community has to say before we start trying to drown them out with our own opinions on the situation.

3 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Non-political opinion for the early morning. Because I just read and keep reading all these posts from black people taking about how white people speak up for all other injustices unless it involves black people. And Richard Sherman happy Wentz and other white QBs have said something because they usually dont. Ive seen a bunch of these types of comments.

Seriously? We just going to pretend that for generations any time a white person even attempts to sympathize they get told "You aint black! You can never understand! Your family wasnt slaves! Stop pretending you understand! Shut yo mouth!"

Uhhhh... yeah. Thats why you cant get more white people to fight for your cause. Cause you are just as racist and for generations you havent allowed anyone who isnt black to stand with you. 

And look at every time a white person speaks up on this. Usually leads off with, but always in there somewhere "Im not black. I could never understand. But...." Hell Carson is being praised for his perfect statement and 2 out of the 4 paragraphs are literally him cheapening his position by explaining he knows he can never understand but wants to say something anyway. Guys, itd mean more to people, and would help more if you didnt tell the people who want to help that they dont know what theyre talking about. If they didnt have to lead with a disclaimer that "This opinion is coming from an outsider who doesnt know what hes talking about but gonna say something anyway" It might hold more weight.

Why do you think everyone has to lead off with these disclaimers? They know theyre about to be attacked by a black person for even saying anything at all. So they try to minimize it by putting in that disclaimer. For generations we have been conditioned to stay quiet about racial relations. I saw some idiot in this very thread not too long ago tell WestPA that saying "black" is offensive. How ridiculous. Now dont Fing act like we never wanted to help. YOU didnt let us. We cant even say "black" without being scared to offend. Now youre going to get mad about us not speaking on it. Idiots....

"Shut yo mouth"  "You ain't black."  Black people don't say "your" and "aren't "?  This is using language to stereotype.  The argument is far more eloquent than that.

Of course, its true and accurate that white people can't fully understand what it has and is to experience life in America as a black person.  Direct experience is education and understanding.  Is it any different than people in here say something to the effect of, "I'm not a doctor but..."  and then people like you respond with an explanation based in education and experience?  I don't think so.

I dont mind Wentz or other athletes speaking up on their private time.  I just dont like that he used the term "institutional racism."

I hate that phrase, I dont think its accurate and I dont think there are many actual racist "institutions" left in this country.  I think using that term just perpetuates the notion that all police and the judicial system are racist

I believe there are racist individuals and racist acts, and I hope what Carson meant was that this was a racist act by an institution (the police) and not just one example of that institution being racist