1 hour ago, Utebird said:

I totally agree.

Sidney Jones played very little last year but towards the end of the year with the limited snaps he did get he made some plays. Can he do that for a full year or was it an anomaly?

Barnett was the 14th pick and his high in sacks is what 6.5? Thats not a good return on ones investment.

JJAWs future looks bleak, hopefully he can turn it around. He had some opportunities to make some big plays, lions game comes to mind, and he didnt.

I agree with Mailata as well. Everyone knew he would be a project well now is year 3 time to put that project into action.

I think this is a put up or shut up year for Mills as well. Hes on a 1 year prove it deal, is it a prove it to the eagles orva prove it to the rest of the paying league. We know schwartz loves him does he love him enough to convince howie to give him a multi year contract?

Derek Barnett has been fine. Look up Brandon Graham’s first 3 seasons.

2 hours ago, greend said:

If you feel the company you work for pays unfairly then move on or try and do something about it, seriously. I'm 100% happy with they way my company rewards those that deserve it for the most part and even people who don't deserve it get rewarded because of the esop.

Not looking for further regulations so that "everyone" makes more money.

Who is talking about regulations?  You guys get so worried about regulations then turn a blind eye to deregulation.  Here is a good example: paid time off.  Industry is now moving aggressively towards a platform of A) Vacation time is accrued rather than a benefit and B) having to use accrued vacation for sick days, doctor appointments,  unforseen emergencies, meaning a person could work for 6 months, only accrue 40 hours of vacation,, may have to use up 20 hours for doctors appointments for self and family,, then can't even take a week off for vacation, without borrowing from future accrued vacation time..  What a splendid way to treat people you rely on for great customer service,, consistent product, loyalty)  Myself and the management team, we are working with our board to buck awful trends such as this.

Just now, Casey @ Bat said:

Derek Barnett has been fine. Look up Brandon Graham’s first 3 seasons.

Yup Brandon grahams first 3 seasons were very similar due to injury then afterwards tough to judge as he was switched to LB as i thought he gave a good acounting if himself there.

With Brandon compared to barnett i could always see the explosion and strength. As a rookie there were certain times hed just blow OL up and it was impressive.

Barnett doesnt really have those same athletic traits. He was billed as more of a technician high motor guy with good bend. Hes not the strongest guy and hes not as athletic as say sweat or as explosive as others. Where as graham is really strong and more explosive and has an even higher motor.

I think barnett can get better but its going to have to come mostly from his improved technique and increased or sustained effort cuz athletic wise hes maxed out and his maxed athletic profile is average at best.

Am I wrong in believing that Sweat's knee injury dates back to high school? If he's been struggling with it for six years now, I think we're at the stage where "it is what it is" with him. 

1 minute ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

Who is talking about regulations?  You guys get so worried about regulations then turn a blind eye to deregulation.  Here is a good example: paid time off.  Industry is now moving aggressively towards a platform of A) Vacation time is accrued rather than a benefit and B) having to use accrued vacation for sick days, doctor appointments,  unforseen emergencies, meaning a person could work for 6 months, only accrue 40 hours of vacation,, may have to use up 20 hours for doctors appointments for self and family,, then can't even take a week off for vacation, without borrowing from future accrued vacation time..  What a splendid way to treat people you rely on for great customer service,, consistent product, loyalty)  Myself and the management team, we are working with our board to buck awful trends such as this.

In that case.............awesome

3 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Am I wrong in believing that Sweat's knee injury dates back to high school? If he's been struggling with it for six years now, I think we're at the stage where "it is what it is" with him. 

No youre not, from what I understand he had a pretty gruesome knee injury in high school.

2 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Am I wrong in believing that Sweat's knee injury dates back to high school? If he's been struggling with it for six years now, I think we're at the stage where "it is what it is" with him. 

He had a brutal injury, almost had to amputate.  Really good pre-draft article about him.  

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2770048-the-josh-sweat-miracle-from-leg-snapped-in-half-to-fastest-de-in-the-draft

3 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I attended my university commencement as an undergrad as favor to my parents... they wanted to sit there for my 5 seconds of fame.  It was 3 hours long, and was never really about the graduates.  It was mostly about the guy getting his honorary PhD.  It was inside an un-air conditioned gym at Drexel and was 90plus degrees outside, and about 100plus inside.  I skipped my Masters ceremony entirely.

 

It's a big deal to some, not all.

So did the Drexel graduation "drag on"?

 

You're welcome.

2 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

It's Sidney, by the way. Not Sydney.

Hockey training camps to open on July 10th!  Hopefully NFL 10 days later.  We can see the light!  

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

I totally agree.

Sidney Jones played very little last year but towards the end of the year with the limited snaps he did get he made some plays. Can he do that for a full year or was it an anomaly?

Barnett was the 14th pick and his high in sacks is what 6.5? Thats not a good return on ones investment.

JJAWs future looks bleak, hopefully he can turn it around. He had some opportunities to make some big plays, lions game comes to mind, and he didnt.

I agree with Mailata as well. Everyone knew he would be a project well now is year 3 time to put that project into action.

I think this is a put up or shut up year for Mills as well. Hes on a 1 year prove it deal, is it a prove it to the eagles orva prove it to the rest of the paying league. We know schwartz loves him does he love him enough to convince howie to give him a multi year contract?

At least Mailata wasn't a 2nd round pick or a 1st round pick

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I didn't get a Harumph out of that man!

Give the Governor a Harumph! 

 

Man so many good one liners.

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

At least Mailata wasn't a 2nd round pick or a 1st round pick

Yup which is why no one if any should have issues with him not playing his first 2 years. Everyone knew he was a project and it would take time. He has elite size and athletic traits at that size and i thought he looked pretty good last preseason and was hoping maybe he could get his feet wet a little during the season in extra tackle heavy sets or garbage time but his back kept him from playing.

Hopefully the back is all good and hes ready to roll cuz this year 3 for him is now or never imo

9 minutes ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

Who is talking about regulations?  You guys get so worried about regulations then turn a blind eye to deregulation.  Here is a good example: paid time off.  Industry is now moving aggressively towards a platform of A) Vacation time is accrued rather than a benefit and B) having to use accrued vacation for sick days, doctor appointments,  unforseen emergencies, meaning a person could work for 6 months, only accrue 40 hours of vacation,, may have to use up 20 hours for doctors appointments for self and family,, then can't even take a week off for vacation, without borrowing from future accrued vacation time..  What a splendid way to treat people you rely on for great customer service,, consistent product, loyalty)  Myself and the management team, we are working with our board to buck awful trends such as this.

Don’t disagree.  It is because HR types and C-suite types don’t tend to have original thoughts on personnel.  I remember being in a meeting with the executives in our department and our designated HR executive was speaking and started talking about "headcount”. I spoke up and told her I found that term offensive. I quoted our mission statement and code of conduct about how we value our people and asked her if our people would feel valued if they heard us refer to them as headcount.  She was surprised. Our top executive asked me how I would address it.  I told her they were people.  From a staffing model perspective I knew how many people I needed at each skill set level.   I knew where my staffing met, exceeded or needed to be addressed in each of those levels. My boss and my peers had plans for it down to the individual person, by name.  That term was dropped from our vernacular.  The only reason we ever had that term was some management book or seminar.   I represented my company at several industry organizations and found my peers from other organizations were experiencing the same language.

Paid time off (PTO) came in the same way.  HR combined sick days, personal holidays and vacation time and made it sound like they were doing us a favor.  I don’t get sick much so I actually gained days.  But as a manager, it was a nightmare. People would save days right up towards year end against the possibility they got sick. We allowed five days to be carried over. Most people banked that five days as a blanket but December time off was a nightmare. 

21 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

My favorite movie of all time

55 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

His contract seems to be specifically structured so that he is here for 2021 as well.

 

Yup. A trade is the only out they really have

43 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Am I wrong in believing that Sweat's knee injury dates back to high school? If he's been struggling with it for six years now, I think we're at the stage where "it is what it is" with him. 

It does and he has worn a knee brace ever sense. Makes sense to protect his knee and doesn’t seem to affect his athleticism or speed.  Most OL wear them in college. If I was an OL or DT, I think I would seriously consider wearing the braces. 

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

It does and he has worn a knee brace ever sense. Makes sense to protect his knee and doesn’t seem to affect his athleticism or speed.  Most OL wear them in college. If I was an OL or DT, I think I would seriously consider wearing the braces. 

Tra Thomas went on a rant recently about how linemen should wear knee braces. The most common injury is getting rolled up from behind. There's no way to protect yourself from that because you're engaged and you can't see it coming. Stoutland made a good point in one of those videos with Fran Dufy. The clip showed Dillard throwing a man to the ground, Duffy thought it was impressive, but Stoutland said no, he could be throwing the man into his own player's legs.

I can definitely see tackles using knee braces. Guards and centers not so much, especially centers like Kelce, because they run so much.

7 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

It does and he has worn a knee brace ever sense. Makes sense to protect his knee and doesn’t seem to affect his athleticism or speed.  Most OL wear them in college. If I was an OL or DT, I think I would seriously consider wearing the braces. 

Yup.

Tra thomas is always talking about how it drives him nuts that OL dont wear knee braces in the pros. As in college its required by a lot of colleges for o lineman to wear a knee brace but come pros they shed them along with knee hip and thigh pads to look cool.

9 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

It does and he has worn a knee brace ever sense. Makes sense to protect his knee and doesn’t seem to affect his athleticism or speed.  Most OL wear them in college. If I was an OL or DT, I think I would seriously consider wearing the braces. 

I think it's a requirement at some schools or maybe even conferences for all OL to wear knee braces. 

3 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

This is obviously a put up or shut up year for several Eagles.

Barnett and Sidney Jones being the top 2. JJAW needs to make a big leap to at least be productive. Mailata has gotten a bit of a pass because of where he was drafted but if he cant be a contributor this year even as a first backup it's time to cut him loose too.

It's a big year for JJaw and Jones but not for Barnett and Mailata.

I would like to Mailata have a role and make the roster but he is 23.  He is a year younger than Dillard.  He has shown promise in pre-season games.  He's not old.  He's not in a put up or shut up year.  Jason Peters wasn't a full-time starter at his age. Alejandro Villanueva was 27 before he started a game. Evan Mathis didn't become a above average player until he was nearly 30.  There are plenty of O-linemen who take time to develop.  Mailata has physical attributes and has shown enough to warrant continued investment.  

If you don't think Barnett has shown he's at least an average NFL player, then I'm not sure what you expect.  I would like Barnett to break out as a star but he's not going to be off the team if he doesn't put up double digit sack numbers next season.  He needs to cut down on his mistakes and stay healthy.  If he does those 2 things, he will improve.  

Jones needs to learn how to tackle.  If you look at the Green Bay game where he got pulled in the first half, it was due to his inability to tackle.  He needs to improve or he's not going to be on the team after this season.  

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

It's a big year for JJaw and Jones but not for Barnett and Mailata.

I would like to Mailata have a role and make the roster but he is 23.  He is a year younger than Dillard.  He has shown promise in pre-season games.  He's not old.  He's not in a put up or shut up year.  Jason Peters wasn't a full-time starter at his age. Alejandro Villanueva was 27 before he started a game. Evan Mathis didn't become a above average player until he was nearly 30.  There are plenty of O-linemen who take time to develop.  Mailata has physical attributes and has shown enough to warrant continued investment.  

If you don't think Barnett has shown he's at least an average NFL player, then I'm not sure what you expect.  I would like Barnett to break out as a star but he's not going to be off the team if he doesn't put up double digit sack numbers next season.  He needs to cut down on his mistakes and stay healthy.  If he does those 2 things, he will improve.  

Jones needs to learn how to tackle.  If you look at the Green Bay game where he got pulled in the first half, it was due to his inability to tackle.  He needs to improve or he's not going to be on the team after this season.  

I hear what you're saying about Mailata but if he doesn't show he can be a capable and healthy OT then this is a put up or shut up year.  Yes, he has youth on his side which is great but if he is healthy he NEEDS to have a role.  He needs to be counted on and trusted to be a swing tackle.  They can't afford to just keep a guy on the roster if he isn't going to contribute.  

I think he's got what it takes.  We need to see a healthy back and some instincts to develop.

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

It's a big year for JJaw and Jones but not for Barnett and Mailata.

I would like to Mailata have a role and make the roster but he is 23.  He is a year younger than Dillard.  He has shown promise in pre-season games.  He's not old.  He's not in a put up or shut up year.  Jason Peters wasn't a full-time starter at his age. Alejandro Villanueva was 27 before he started a game. Evan Mathis didn't become a above average player until he was nearly 30.  There are plenty of O-linemen who take time to develop.  Mailata has physical attributes and has shown enough to warrant continued investment.  

If you don't think Barnett has shown he's at least an average NFL player, then I'm not sure what you expect.  I would like Barnett to break out as a star but he's not going to be off the team if he doesn't put up double digit sack numbers next season.  He needs to cut down on his mistakes and stay healthy.  If he does those 2 things, he will improve.  

Jones needs to learn how to tackle.  If you look at the Green Bay game where he got pulled in the first half, it was due to his inability to tackle.  He needs to improve or he's not going to be on the team after this season.  

i agree with giving mailata time. As long as he keeps showing improvement and he keeps busting his butt, I think it would be a disservice to the team to cut bait

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I hear what you're saying about Mailata but if he doesn't show he can be a capable and healthy OT then this is a put up or shut up year.  Yes, he has youth on his side which is great but if he is healthy he NEEDS to have a role.  He needs to be counted on and trusted to be a swing tackle.  They can't afford to just keep a guy on the roster if he isn't going to contribute.  

I think he's got what it takes.  We need to see a healthy back and some instincts to develop.

I'd like to see him make the roster outright and another "IR" year would not make me happy. I don't think he has to have a role.  In fact, if he was activated for more games than not, I would think that was a giant leap.  He is going to take time.  He's not a failure if he's not swing tackle.  

1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I think it's a requirement at some schools or maybe even conferences for all OL to wear knee braces. 

It is. Not an NCAA rule, however.