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4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

What i think i think and the reason i think i kneel is because like 3rd reich flag and confederate flag and all flags they represent a set of ideals and or values. 3rd reich flag is associated with white nationalism, and German Pride and Genocide. The national Pride part in itself isnt horrible, not my cup of tea, but the white nationalism and genocide very horrible. Confederate flag represents Southern Pride, rebels, and slavery. State Pride not horrible rebelling also represented by US flag as they rebelled against England, one could argue many flags represent rebels, slavery though, bad.

The US flag originally represented a succession from the tyrannical rule of England, it was supposed to rep freedom liberty and justice for all.

Kids in cages, systemic racism, increasing poverty, an unequal justice system increased war and spending on immoral wars dont to me represent freedom ,liberty and justice for all the intended representation of the US flag.

When the nation that flag represents incorporates and lives freedom liberty and justice for all ill get off my knees and gladly salute those ideals until then i kneel😞 

People may ask how does kneeling change anything in the country? To which i reply " i dont do it to change the country i do it so the country doesnt change me"

I hope people even if they disagree or find it disrespectful can at least respect my 2nd amendment right to kneel. 

When you post things like this, you really hurt your overall point.  

 

secession or 'separation'... and the right to bear arms has nothing to do with kneeling.  Unless you are kneeling while holding a rifle.

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5 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Coaching encompasses more than knowledge of football, its also about relating to people and building trust and a learning atmosphere.

Most people learn better in a positive learning environment, washburn isnt known for creating a positive learning environment unless i guess your name is jason babin.

Im sure washburn has good things to teach barnett its the way he teaches them and attitude he instills in others that id be leary of my players associating with.

It’s a short amount of time, and the Eagles are very familiar with him. It’s no issue. 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

When you post things like this, you really hurt your overall point.  

 

secession or 'separation'... and the right to bear arms has nothing to do with kneeling.  Unless you are kneeling while holding a rifle.

sorry about that meant 1st amendment right of free speech, not 2nd amendment to bare arms😄

 

Just now, Utebird said:

sorry about that meant 1st amendment right of free speech, not 2nd amendment to bare arms😄

 

Keep your sleeves on.

14 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Barnett was drafted off technique in the first place.  His knock was being an unexplosive sub-par athlete for the position.  He's not at all bad, but you can only squeeze so much water from that stone by refining his technique.  

I don’t agree with the bolded at all. He really wasn’t polished or particularly refined as a pass rusher. His technique largely consisted of jumping the snap count and having a relentless motor. He had no inside move or quality counters to speak of. His spin move was beyond pathetic. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

It’s a short amount of time, and the Eagles are very familiar with him. It’s no issue. 

They are familiar with him, which is why they fired him mid season.

To my knowledge washburn was the only coach Reid fired mid season.

Because washburn was toxic.

 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I don’t agree with the bolded at all. He really wasn’t polished or particularly refined as a pass rusher. His technique largely consisted of jumping the snap count and having a relentless motor. He had no inside move or quality counters to speak of. His spin move was beyond pathetic. 

I agree Barnetts spin move is pathetic😊

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I don’t agree with the bolded at all. He really wasn’t polished or particularly refined as a pass rusher. His technique largely consisted of jumping the snap count and having a relentless motor. He had no inside move or quality counters to speak of. His spin move was beyond pathetic. 

His hand usage in his pass rush moves was widely considered to be the best in the entire draft.  

Regardless, he's not some prospect oozing with talent who just needed a little seasoning before transforming into a new force.  He's a high motor player who gets some opportunistic sacks, does well in contain against the run due to effort, and has a penchant for bad penalties due to said motor.  That's who he is and it's not going to change with seasoning.  

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

They are familiar with him, which is why they fired him mid season.

To my knowledge washburn was the only coach Reid fired mid season.

Because washburn was toxic.

 

Meh. He coached under Schwartz for eight seasons. His son is the assistant DL coach. I can look past his two seasons here and focus on his other 38 seasons of coaching experience. 

I think you’re overreacting here. 

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I agree Barnetts spin move is pathetic😊

Was. 

Just now, eagle45 said:

His hand usage in his pass rush moves was widely considered to be the best in the entire draft.  

Regardless, he's not some prospect oozing with talent who just needed a little seasoning before transforming into a new force.  He's a high motor player who gets some opportunistic sacks, does well in contain against the run due to effort, and has a penchant for bad penalties due to said motor.  That's who he is and it's not going to change with seasoning.  

I think Barnett maxed out in college. Sure his technique can improve but like you say that was his calling card in college and pre draft, elite hand technique.

I just dont see barnett being much more than hes shown, maybe if he can stay healthy his stats will reflect his effort but as of now hes been mediocre to me.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

His hand usage in his pass rush moves was widely considered to be the best in the entire draft.  

Regardless, he's not some prospect oozing with talent who just needed a little seasoning before transforming into a new force.  He's a high motor player who gets some opportunistic sacks, does well in contain against the run due to effort, and has a penchant for bad penalties due to said motor.  That's who he is and it's not going to change with seasoning.  

You’re right about the hand usage. 

But I think you’re wrong in saying he can’t change with seasoning. Improved technique can make a difference.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Meh. He coached under Schwartz for eight seasons. His son is the assistant DL coach. I can look past his two seasons here and focus on his other 38 seasons of coaching experience. 

I think you’re overreacting here. 

Was. 

The only thing jim washburn is going to tell barnett that he hasnt heard from schwartz or washburn Jr is that hes a little girl or some other demeaning remark.

I wouldnt let any of my players any where near that bigoted D bag😠

12 minutes ago, Utebird said:

sorry about that meant 1st amendment right of free speech, not 2nd amendment to bare arms😄

 

...in order to keep a well-regulated militia.

 

Anyone interested in a Blog militia?

16 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Meh. He coached under Schwartz for eight seasons. His son is the assistant DL coach. I can look past his two seasons here and focus on his other 38 seasons of coaching experience. 

I think you’re overreacting here. 

Washburn coached over Schwartz as well.  Schwartz was just a Def assistant with Tennessee when Washburn was the DL coach and that's when he developed (Schwartz, not Washburn) the Wide-9... which was designed as a run defense, specifically to stop the Outside Zone of Indy.   It was so effective, that he moved up to LB coach, and then leapfrogged Washburn at Tennessee, before he went to Detroit as the HC.

 

I know that folks around here get frustrated with Schwartz at times... but I truly do believe that he's a darn good DC, and its good having him.  He has his warts, as does any coach, but there's far far worse.  

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

...in order to keep a well-regulated militia.

 

Anyone interested in a Blog militia?

What exactly would that look like and how would it function?

Im intrigued😊

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

...in order to keep a well-regulated militia.

 

Anyone interested in a Blog militia?

There's a rabbit hole we can go down, but I don't think that's necessary.  We've got enough debate going right now about the 1st Amendment, let's not branch out into #2.  

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Washburn coached over Schwartz as well.  Schwartz was just a Def assistant with Tennessee when Washburn was the DL coach and that's when he developed (Schwartz, not Washburn) the Wide-9... which was designed as a run defense, specifically to stop the Outside Zone of Indy.   It was so effective, that he moved up to LB coach, and then leapfrogged Washburn at Tennessee, before he went to Detroit as the HC.

 

I know that folks around here get frustrated with Schwartz at times... but I truly do believe that he's a darn good DC, and its good having him.  He has his warts, as done any coach, but there's far far worse.  

I like schwartz hes a little abrasive as a person but his players even if they dont like him respect him and even if other coaches dont like him they respect him, excluding jim harbaugh😊

Barnett didn't have a spin move when he entered the NFL, and now he does. He also uses a push-pull move, which he did not have in college either.

The push-pull is the 2nd play in the clip. That was right before he got hurt. He was playing well in 2018 before the shoulder injury. 

47 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I don’t need to look for things to complain about, they made it pretty easy to find on draft day. They valued a backup QB more than Lamb because they didn’t want to part ways with their second rounder to Atlanta to jump Dallas. 

I think this is a poor argument. If you want to go down that path, you should argue that the Eagles valued "Reagor plus Hurts" more than Lamb. In your equation, you're excluding Reagor completely.

But even then, it's never been verified that the Falcons would have agreed to that proposal anyway.

6 minutes ago, Utebird said:

What exactly would that look like and how would it function?

Im intrigued😊

Not sure....but the first thing we'll need is a name and a logo/insignia.

48 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I don’t need to look for things to complain about, they made it pretty easy to find on draft day. They valued a backup QB more than Lamb because they didn’t want to part ways with their second rounder to Atlanta to jump Dallas. 

They valued the 2 players more than the one. Do I agree with that? I would have probably grabbed a different player but it really still doesn't translate to now Reagor has to be better than Lamb.

5 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I like schwartz hes a little abrasive as a person but his players even if they dont like him respect him and even if other coaches dont like him they respect him, excluding jim harbaugh😊

The fact that Jim Harbaugh doesn't like Schwartz, makes me like Schwartz more.

1 minute ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I think this is a poor argument. If you want to go down that path, you should argue that the Eagles valued "Reagor plus Hurts" more than Lamb. In your equation, you're excluding Reagor completely.

But even then, it's never been verified that the Falcons would have agreed to that proposal anyway.

Forget it...he's rolling...

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9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

...in order to keep a well-regulated militia.

 

Anyone interested in a Blog militia?

Absolutely!!!!!!! 

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