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1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

6’7 think he run more like a 4.5-4.6

He ran a 4.59 at the combine in 2019

OH OK, I heard different on the radio. I guess they exaggerated a bit......

 

 

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2 minutes ago, stine said:

OH OK, I heard different on the radio. I guess they exaggerated a bit......

 

 

He could be faster now but that was his combine numbers I do think Jackson tested better then Pitts in other drills though like the 3 cone etc. 

Not to take away from Pitta but also think there big of an * next to all the players this year since everything was unofficial almost every player seemed to run a 4.4

Sounds like our RB room might be decided… Sanders as the lead back

Scott- change of pace 

Howard- pass protector big RB

Gains- receiving back 

Only real question I’d have now is do we carry 5 and bring Huntley 

7 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

He could be faster now but that was his combine numbers I do think Jackson tested better then Pitts in other drills though like the 3 cone etc. 

Not to take away from Pitta but also think there big of an * next to all the players this year since everything was unofficial almost every player seemed to run a 4.4

 Sounds like he might be worth keeping, especially if someone trades for Ertz......

8 minutes ago, stine said:

 Sounds like he might be worth keeping, especially if someone trades for Ertz......

He has had a strong camp made some plays vs the Steelers as well… For a guy that only been playing TE for a year now and is only 23 I think he should definitely be kept.

Shown more growth the guys like JJaw or Butler etc. 

A recap of practice from a Pats reporter.

Eagles Win Day 1 of Joint Practice vs Patriots #QuickHitters - YouTube

A lot to be excited about. Yes, it's just practice, but Jalen Hurts is the type of qb who should look a lot worse in these settings than in a game. The fact that he is playing well is very, very encouraging.

As I have said before, there is a universe where the Eagles are really good this year. If we get some young players to step up on offense - Hurts, Watkins, Smith, Mailata - then we are going to be hard to stop. We know what we have in Sanders, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson, Seumalo and Goedert.

On defense, we have some aging players in Cox, Graham and Slay, but also emerging players in Milton Williams, McPhearson and Sweat/Barnett. Plus we have five draft picks in the first three rounds next season. That would allow us to replace a lot of aging players.

I know it's never a great idea to get excited about a team in August, but them playing well right now is a lot more encouraging than them playing poorly. And this is against a team who just beat up on the WFT.

Most importantly, Hurts is getting solid reviews. Not having to draft a qb or trade a lot of picks for an established vet next year would be huge for this team. 

8 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

A recap of practice from a Pats reporter.

Eagles Win Day 1 of Joint Practice vs Patriots #QuickHitters - YouTube

A lot to be excited about. Yes, it's just practice, but Jalen Hurts is the type of qb who should look a lot worse in these settings than in a game. The fact that he is playing well is very, very encouraging.

As I have said before, there is a universe where the Eagles are really good this year. If we get some young players to step up on offense - Hurts, Watkins, Smith, Mailata - then we are going to be hard to stop. We know what we have in Sanders, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson, Seumalo and Goedert.

On defense, we have some aging players in Cox, Graham and Slay, but also emerging players in Milton Williams, McPhearson and Sweat/Barnett. Plus we have five draft picks in the first three rounds next season. That would allow us to replace a lot of aging players.

I know it's never a great idea to get excited about a team in August, but them playing well right now is a lot more encouraging than them playing poorly. And this is against a team who just beat up on the WFT.

Most importantly, Hurts is getting solid reviews. Not having to draft a qb or trade a lot of picks for an established vet next year would be huge for this team. 

It’s good we are doing well but way to early to get overly excited about anything… Until meaningful games start to happen and teams get more film and start to game plan for Hurts and Siri O will be the real test in my eyes. 

Tomorrow and game day will be interesting for this O…. Belicheat and Co. will have a sense of what to expect from our O they will make some adjustments. 
 

All and all it’s good to hear our O is having good days especially after struggling vs our D most of camp so far 

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18 hours ago, jsb235 said:

Some thoughts after watching way too much preseason football.

1. I can't say if Hurts will be any good, but he certainly doesn't look appreciably worse than any other young qb. He missed one deep shot to Watkins, but was on target with every other pass. He also got rid of the ball when he needed to and generally looked decent while on the field. As a comparison, Lance took four sacks. Sure, the guy has a cannon for an arm, but that many sacks in a preseason game is scary. If you made me watch Lawrence, Wilson, Lance, Fields, Jones, Tua and Hurts, and asked me which one wasn't the first round pick, I wouldn't be able to tell you it was Hurts unless I had that info beforehand. It was actually comical listening to the 49ers announcers whine that the Chiefs were playing their starters against the 49ers backups, when 1. Garoppolo played behind the same line and didn't get sacked and 2. The 49ers had some of their starters playing, so there were at most two backups in.

2. The division might be real bad again, which is good news for us. The Giants have serious oline problems. The Cowboys have holes all over the defense. The WFT is going to be bad on offense. We have our own set of problems, but ours seem less problematic after the first preseason game. Our defense played well. We might all demand the team get better linebackers, but Singleton and Wilson seem at least competent. Our WRs are an issue but Quez Watkins has been a pleasant surprise. Hurts, as I noted, looks good. Meanwhile the Cowboys are in deep trouble at CB and DT, and there's no help on the horizon. They also seem unsure who will play center. The Giants aren't suddenly going to find five competent oline starters. The WFT isn't going to suddenly have a great offense (although I do think they are the best team in the division, but one that is really lacking in depth.)

3. We could be sneaking up on people. I can't remember a preseason where we didn't call a single blitz on defense or when we ran on offense with absolutely no creativity. All of our receiver routes were vanilla, a go route from Watkins, out routes from Reagor and Goedert, a curl route from Ertz. (Come to think of it, it resembled our offense and defense from last year.) But we know the regular season is going to be different. Gannon is going to bring pressure from all over the field. Sirianni is going to run more creative routes. It's one reason why I am not putting much stock in what I am seeing from a scheme standpoint on either side of the ball. On offense, I am simply watching for things like blitz pickup from the running backs, good decisions from the QB and good routes from the wrs. On the defense, I am looking for pressure from defensive line, solid tackling and decent coverage. We got all of those things in the first half last week, and hopefully we will see it continue from the players who matter next week.

I would hope Siri can run more creative routes. But he’s limited to the personnel. That’s what we should make sure to remember about Pedey. Last year he was limited to rookies Reagor and Hightower week one. Reagor wasn’t even barely in TC. Then he even went out early to injury. Fulgham came in with no experience. No chemistry built between Wentz and these guys either. Siri specialty is supposedly pass catcher teaching. So it’s up to how quickly he can get these young guys up to speed. DeVonta should be a huge addition to help with this. Actually get some blocking going and maybe there will be time for more routes to develop also.

49 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

would hope Siri can run more creative routes. But he’s limited to the personnel.

Siri stated he was going to keep it vanilla not tip his hat on what we are going to do before the season. I’d image that to stay true. 

19 hours ago, jsb235 said:

The WFT is going to be bad on offense. We have our own set of problems, but ours seem less problematic after the first preseason game.

I think your underestimating this WFT over one preseason game. I don’t think they will have an elite offense but one that can do damage paired with there defense they should be the easy favorite for the East. 

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I think your underestimating this WFT over one preseason game. I don’t think they will have an elite offense but one that can do damage paired with there defense they should be the easy favorite for the East. 

Last year they had the 25th ranked scoring offense. Obviously they added two big pieces to the offense in Fitzpatrick and Samuel, but they also subtracted a really good right tackle in Moses, and added a pedestrian Leno at LT.

I don't think I am underestimating the WFT's offense, it's just not a good group. There's not one person on the squad who is likely to exceed expectations. Thomas and McLaurin are really good. Samuel is a nice complementary piece. Fitzpatrick runs hot and cold. Gibson is pretty average, and was Gainwell's backup in college. Scherff is a really good guard. After that, there's not a lot there.

Will their defense keep them competitive? Yes. But as far as their offense goes, you know what they are. It's not like they are going to surprise anyone and be a dominant force. Their problems on offense are still their problems on offense.

That's why I am positive about this year. Our problems look like they have a solution. Does that mean we are going to have a great season? Absolutely not. But the prospects of us having a great season are a lot better today than they were three weeks ago, when we had no idea how Hurts, Watkins and other young players were going to look in training camp.

Now that they have exceeded expectations, it's okay to feel good about that.  

 

16 hours ago, jsb235 said:

A recap of practice from a Pats reporter.

Eagles Win Day 1 of Joint Practice vs Patriots #QuickHitters - YouTube

A lot to be excited about. Yes, it's just practice, but Jalen Hurts is the type of qb who should look a lot worse in these settings than in a game. The fact that he is playing well is very, very encouraging.

As I have said before, there is a universe where the Eagles are really good this year. If we get some young players to step up on offense - Hurts, Watkins, Smith, Mailata - then we are going to be hard to stop. We know what we have in Sanders, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson, Seumalo and Goedert.

On defense, we have some aging players in Cox, Graham and Slay, but also emerging players in Milton Williams, McPhearson and Sweat/Barnett. Plus we have five draft picks in the first three rounds next season. That would allow us to replace a lot of aging players.

I know it's never a great idea to get excited about a team in August, but them playing well right now is a lot more encouraging than them playing poorly. And this is against a team who just beat up on the WFT.

Most importantly, Hurts is getting solid reviews. Not having to draft a qb or trade a lot of picks for an established vet next year would be huge for this team. 

   To think the Eagles are going to be competing for the division is wishful thinking, but I love your optimism. What we have seen is one PS game which you can not draw any conclusions on. The Coaches seem organized. No one got injured. These are about the only solid opinions you can make. Some players have looked better than others.... Just not going to formulate any conclusion at this point. We are still old in some areas and I feel it is going to show later in the season. Hurts is a huge ?. Do we have ample depth? The way this teams has injuries every year needs to be thought about.....

13 hours ago, jsb235 said:

don't think I am underestimating the WFT's offense, it's just not a good group. There's not one person on the squad who is likely to exceed expectations. Thomas and McLaurin are really good. Samuel is a nice complementary piece. Fitzpatrick runs hot and cold. Gibson is pretty average, and was Gainwell's backup in college. Scherff is a really good guard. After that, there's not a lot there.

They have arguably the best WRs in the division probably the 2nd best TE, underrated RB who really flashed last year toward the end and should get better who cares what he was in college literally means nothing in the nfl. And Fitz who is better even cold then anything they had at QB last year. Along with easily the best coach in the division.

So yea think your underestimating the WFT offense. 
 

I get it want to be optimistic toward Philly but there is a lot to like on that Washington team on the defense and offense not they are not a finished product just like we aren’t. But I’d say they are in a better spot the us at the moment. 

Gibson in 14 games 795 yards rushing 4.7 per carry 11 Tds to go with 36 catches 247 yards. 
 

Miles Sanders in 12 games 867yards 6 tds 5.3 28 catches 197 yards 

Make the case that Gibson was just as good if not better then Sanders last season.  Gibson was a rook at that. 

 

Reagor making plays in camp I didn’t think he had a terrible first game either sounds like there is a ton to be excited for with Reagor just hopes he can put it all together in actual games 

Right now it seems like the top 3 WRs are Smith,Quez,Reagor and it is not even close…

Hurts having another strong days from the sounds of it more impressed about today then yesterday with NE at least now having a feel for Siri and Hurts. 
 

Now he just needs to translate it to the preseason game expecting the starters to play most the half vs NE 

Kvon Wallace really seems to be coming into his own be huge for this team for him to develop a starting caliber player. Our Defense needs some young talent to possibly build around. Sweat/Wallace/ Taylor(though got injured)/Milton could be those guys. 

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Right now it seems like the top 3 WRs are Smith,Quez,Reagor and it is not even close…

Has Fulgham played much?

47 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Has Fulgham played much?

Haven’t heard much on him read reports he hasn’t really shined in camp but hasn’t been bad either. So hard to really judge when we don’t get to see them actually play.

Just to point out how little I’ve heard on Fulgham and Ward for that matter I’ve heard more positive for JJaw. Though JJaw always sounds like he does well in camp/practice  but nothing on game days 

Sooooo going against a different team and yes it’s just practice so not jumping the gun but the offense and defense both did well it sounds like…. have to like hearing that 

We waived Kerryon(good new for Howard I’d guess), Jurgia and Casey Tucker. 

5 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Gibson in 14 games 795 yards rushing 4.7 per carry 11 Tds to go with 36 catches 247 yards. 
 

Miles Sanders in 12 games 867yards 6 tds 5.3 28 catches 197 yards 

Make the case that Gibson was just as good if not better then Sanders last season.  Gibson was a rook at that. 

 

There is a pretty wide gap between a back that averaged 4.7 yards per carry and one that averaged 5.3 yards a carry. Miles Sanders was the fifth ranked back in this category, while Gibson was T-15. And Gibson's offensive line was largely healthy. Sanders was often running behind inexperienced starters. Four of the WFT's linemen played roughly 80 percent of the snaps.

Being the 15th best running back in the league is the definition of average. And he achieved that under the best possible circumstances.

As for their receivers, Adam Humphries doesn't excite me. And certainly not as much as Quez Watkins or Jalen Reagor. Samuel was the third option at WR in Carolina last year, and half the time they took him off the field for a fullback or extra TE.

Their offense should be okay. That might be good enough to win the division. But you don't want to start digging yourself into a position where you are looking up obscure stats about Fitzpatrick, Humphries, Samuel and Gibson to try and make a point that they are going to be anything other than an average offense, because that's just a waste of everyone's time. 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Being the 15th best running back in the league is the definition of average. And he achieved that under the best possible circumstances.

Do you want to talk the 11 Tds lmao where he is top 5 at RB last year the fact he had 2 less fumbles then Sanders… 

.6 of a yard is what your talking about I’ll take the guy who scores and protects the rock better. Not to mention was a rookie with terrible QB play. 

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