3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So,how about a 1 year stop gap contract on Gipson? Bates-16 games-Gipson 12 games. Looks pretty similar and alot cheaper. Just a fill,not suggesting a long term,but we could use the help

You want an undrafted guy that’s old

I don't recall a major dropoff going from 34 to 43. Once again you are creating problems that may not be there

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You want an undrafted guy that’s old

1 year,31 isn't old,we have guys older than that LOL. WHo cares if he was undrafted? he's played alot of game for alot of teams(he must really suck to keep getting contracts)

Look at the stats I posted,bates-16 games,Gipson 12 games but looks like the per game stats are pretty close. 1 year,stop gap and he's not expensive either(and a FA so no BS about contract obligations)

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You want an undrafted guy that’s old

Get the walker out for Cox then,he's REALLY old

Harris is 30,better tell him to hit the bricks(Gipson is 31 and already 5 years over the hill lol)

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Depends, if the rookies played in a 34,the learning curve isn't all that hard. Define "flawless" LOL. Nothing is perfection. How bad were we when we lost barwin and changed to the 43? And why can't we use both 34 and 43 as needed? 

Sure….we’ll be the guys that are great at every defense. Think that will be the way things work though. With everybody knowing it takes two years to switch. Do a half hybrid switch this year. Could use different players possibly. Like Barnett and Graham play 4-3 DE. Reddick comes in at OLB for 3/4. Just feels like every time defenders are thinking too much they aren’t reacting as fast. Also feel most players can work on mastering a few things. Not many can be masters at everything. So we just looking for decent Jack-of-all-trades….are really good at a few things?

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I don't recall a major dropoff going from 34 to 43. Once again you are creating problems that may not be there

Known NFL fact. Or theory that it seems every coach believes.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure….we’ll be the guys that are great at every defense. Think that will be the way things work though. With everybody knowing it takes two years to switch. Do a half hybrid switch this year. Could use different players possibly. Like Barnett and Graham play 4-3 DE. Reddick comes in at OLB for 3/4. Just feels like every time defenders are thinking too much they aren’t reacting as fast. Also feel most players can work on mastering a few things. Not many can be masters at everything. So we just looking for decent Jack-of-all-trades….are really good at a few things?

Known NFL fact. Or theory that it seems every coach believes.

OK show me the stat drop off between defenses the year we changed over.I'm fine if we use both this year making the changeover. We have the players with versatility to do so

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

1 year,31 isn't old,we have guys older than that LOL. WHo cares if he was undrafted? he's played alot of game for alot of teams(he must really suck to keep getting contracts)

Ohhh so now an undrafted guy gets a chance and can start…it’s a miracle. He turns 32 for this season. I believe our need is more a faster FS type that can Man up some. He’s getting pretty small contracts now. One year…1 mil. Then one year..2.2 mil. Of which they didn’t want to keep him. Not saying he’s the worst idea ever. Emergency stop gap option.

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Harris is 30,better tell him to hit the bricks(Gipson is 31 and already 5 years over the hill lol)

Harris has lost a step. I would have been fine with him hitting the bricks. Didn’t play all that great. His benefit for Gannon is enabling the full defensive playcalling with his experience in the system. One more year stop gap from Harris option. Gipson 31 and 265 days old or something. So 32 this season. 

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ohhh so now an undrafted guy gets a chance and can start…it’s a miracle. He turns 32 for this season. I believe our need is more a faster FS type that can Man up some. He’s getting pretty small contracts now. One year…1 mil. Then one year..2.2 mil. Of which they didn’t want to keep him. Not saying he’s the worst idea ever. Emergency stop gap option.

LMAO welp,he was undrafted a LONG time go. He's played every year SINCE then. Show me where he was out of football if he is so bad? The stats are similar to Bates,the guy you want to sell the farm for

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Harris has lost a step. I would have been fine with him hitting the bricks. Didn’t play all that great. His benefit for Gannon is enabling the full defensive playcalling with his experience in the system. One more year stop gap from Harris option. Gipson 31 and 265 days old or something. So 32 this season. 

And besides him we have?????? It's a ONE year thing Ham,I'm not signing him to a 5 year deal

 

Jason Kelce	62	C	6-3	295	34	12	Cincinnati
	Brandon Graham	55	DE	6-2	265	34	13	Michigan
	Lane Johnson	65	T	6-6	325	32	10	Oklahoma
	Darius Slay	2	CB	6-0	190	31	10	Mississippi State
	Fletcher Cox	91	DT	6-4	310	31	11

Tell all these guys to pack up and go home,because they are TOO OLD to play

Kelce,Graham,Johnson,Slay,Cox,they all need to go 🤣. Your excuse is weak at best and ridiculous at worst

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Harris has lost a step

Cut him,he's too old anyway. Slay needs to go as well,Too old

So,IDK what we do,just seems to me for a 1 year cheap stop gap,he would be fine while we figure out what the young guys have to work with

BTW in 2015 he was a pro bowler-just AWFUL lol

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mailata has lots of bench experience. Didn’t even play football until not that long ago. Don’t know if Seumalo is the starter and stays. Could open up money if we move on from him. Then you got rookie Jergens, Driscoll or Opeta. Sanders only played his Senior year of college and hasn’t stacked up a ton of carries in any season…or really game yet. He’s a RB but clearly can see he is still growing on the passing game areas. Stoll year two. You would think he still contributes quite a bit. 

 Defense:  Epps.  potential outside CB opposite Slay. I figure a Young Corner is used plenty in special packages and to get guys a breather possibly. Milton. Davis. Edwards. Maybe Taylor happens this year. Then you got Sweat and Maddox just off rookie contracts. Dean is a stud. But we are changing the D. How ready  is our D for that? Just don’t believe you can get but so far in TC. I’d expect they keep adding new parts as they go instead of super swamping everything.

And look at the other teams....tell me which teams that we are playing against have less experience?   From position to position throughout the roster with the guys that will play. 

It's hilarious you go into 8th and 9th OL to try to spin things.   

Every team has young players added to the mix... we have experience throughout the roster... with a 3rd year QB now..not a rookie with 10 more years to go before he qualifies for a contract extension.    

Lurie and Howie are not going to give your boy any excuses!    

49 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So your opinion is the first year switching over from a 4-3 to 3-4 is flawless and at its peak week one? Just flip the switch. Sure everybody has rookies. Rookies are notorious for not being on the top of their game week one jumping into the league. Their is a learning curve. Traditionally it’s been a considered known fact it takes two seasons to transition fully to a 3-4. Heard DC after DC explain that logic.

Spin ....spin ....spin.... spin. 

Unbelievable 

43 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Get the walker out for Cox then,he's REALLY old

He definitely had a down season last year. They reworked his deal for this to be his last.

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

BTW in 2015 he was a pro bowler-just AWFUL lol

It’s 2022

28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO welp,he was undrafted a LONG time go. He's played every year SINCE then. Show me where he was out of football if he is so bad? The stats are similar to Bates,the guy you want to sell the farm for

Sell the farm? A second round pick for a top S that is young. Think the Eagles farm a little bigger than those there in Carolina.

I mean... in the Novacare complex there must be extra obstacles in the learning phases...  no other teams ever have to learn anything in the NFL.

What we do here is.... we pin point one out of the many facets and spin that to try to force a narrative. 

The 2017 was not the most talented team in the league...forget pro bowlers and depth at plenty of positions... let's focus on Darby and Mills,not the other 51 guys....lol

The Eagles are inexperienced... Goedert is a new starter....he needs time to learn the routes and the blocking scheme....lol

28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Kelce,Graham,Johnson,Slay,Cox,they all need to go 🤣. Your excuse is weak at best and ridiculous at worst

That group needs some experience.   

26 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Kelce,Graham,Johnson,Slay,Cox,they all need to go 🤣. Your excuse is weak at best and ridiculous at worst

Kelce been year to year. Probably his last also honestly. Unbelievably great career. Johnson you do have to consider …but they reworked his deal if I remember. Graham major questions how good he’ll be. Sounds like he’s taking the backup role that rotates in a good amount. Likely last season. But he played very sparingly for years in the beginning. Slay killing it. Riding that horse!

Just now, joemas6 said:

That group needs some experience.   

Will Cox even be here this year? Clearly saw he had issues with the switch to Gannon last season. Didn’t want to have a role where he can’t attack into the backfield. Think he will accept not charging ahead for plays in the backfield in his contract year now?

29 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Kelce,Graham,Johnson,Slay,Cox,they all need to go 🤣. Your excuse is weak at best and ridiculous at worst

You know... it was amazing 2017.   Look at the situation.  2nd year coach.. I mean what a pedigree he had prior?    The inexperienced RBs...Blount and Ajayi had to learn a new system...incredible.   The way Alshon and Torrey Smith came in... just like AJ Brown ...it's tough.   Ertz going into year 5.. he wasn't a starter for long.  How did he do it?   Brooks was only year 6 playing next to Lane who was only year 5.... but also was suspended and missed that experience.  

Ohhh ohh...the humanity ,how did they ever win???   Lol.