3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This is the terrible comment. Checking down and knowing when to isn’t some negative comment. 

#2 of the least likely to check down list Tua #3 Nick Mullins, Trubisky at #4

Checkdowns #2 Mike Glennon #3 Derek Carr #4 Matt Ryan. 
 

The issue isn’t checking down it’s knowing when to check down and when to take shots it’s a balance 

Or be the guy with the most explosive plays in the league. Of coarse in your mind, being a Hurts hater, being the most explosive player IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE….means you suck.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This comment right here speaks volumes. The fact that you expect them to be better then Hurts says everything. And both guys are in WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY worse situations with there teams then Hurts with the Eagles.

Both guys have worse OLs, worse WRs, worse ground games, worse TEs and the expectations are they are still going to be better. 
 

This is why I think drafting a QB makes the most sense with the Eagles

A. FO does amazing job at scouting QBs they have drafted two QBs Mcnabb and Wentz we can pinpoint the character flaws with Wentz sure but the talent level was shown in full display in 2017. Mcnabb still the best Eagles QB of all time.

B. Rookie QB with a higher ceiling then Hurts would be walking into a great situation he is going to have two very good WRs, great OL, strong ground game, great TE…. Oh then Quez as a 3rd WR option. 
 

C. On top of all that your still not spending 35+m on the QB position for the next 4 years. 

How many playoff games has Wentz won again? ZERO! That’s your bar? Feels really dumb I have to point out they also drafted Hurts. Or who do you think did that?

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This comment right here speaks volumes. The fact that you expect them to be better then Hurts says everything. And both guys are in WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY worse situations with there teams then Hurts with the Eagles.

Both guys have worse OLs, worse WRs, worse ground games, worse TEs and the expectations are they are still going to be better. 
 

This is why I think drafting a QB makes the most sense with the Eagles

A. FO does amazing job at scouting QBs they have drafted two QBs Mcnabb and Wentz we can pinpoint the character flaws with Wentz sure but the talent level was shown in full display in 2017. Mcnabb still the best Eagles QB of all time.

B. Rookie QB with a higher ceiling then Hurts would be walking into a great situation he is going to have two very good WRs, great OL, strong ground game, great TE…. Oh then Quez as a 3rd WR option. 
 

C. On top of all that your still not spending 35+m on the QB position for the next 4 years. 

How many first round picks you giving up for this dream? Still the matter of the team actually trading this superstar away. If he’s such a stud….very unlikely.

The thing is…if you rank Hurts middle of the pack for his production that’s pretty good. Especially when you consider what a great leader he is. How he makes everybody else so much better. Nobody argues he supreme intangible qualities. Bringing all that and producing at 14th best really means he brings so much to the table. Like I stated: what’s important is no moment is too big for him. He doesn’t fold under pressure. Feels like to me he steps up and thrives. 

offensive coordinator Shane Steichen on Jalen Hurts: "He has a relentless effort to be great.” Also said Hurts’ time spent on footwork is "starting to show.”

Just so clearly obvious Hurts will continue to improve. Pretty exciting to me.

Malcolm Jenkinstalking with Kevin Hart about how upset he was that he wasn’t allowed his moment on the podium winning the SB. I have to admit he has a very good point. Captain of the team. Leader of the D.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How many first round picks you giving up for this dream? Still the matter of the team actually trading this superstar away. If he’s such a stud….very unlikely

3 would be the logic expectation to trade for a QB. So your out of a first for 1 draft that’s it. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

There are only two at this point. Of coarse that can change. Spencer was the Heisman favorite expected to be the number one pick….then bombed and was benched.

Kid from Miami and the kid from Kentucky and one other possible

48 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just so clearly obvious Hurts will continue to improve. Pretty exciting to me.

And yet you constantly say he can’t be one of the best he won’t be Mahomes or Allen:… don’t want a middle of the pack QB if he isn’t pushing to be a top 5 player at QB he isn’t worth paying 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

3 would be the logic expectation to trade for a QB. So your out of a first for 1 draft that’s it. 

You think three first rounders gets you the Bama QB?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The thing is…if you rank Hurts middle of the pack for his production that’s pretty good. Especially when you consider what a great leader he is. How he makes everybody else so much better. Nobody argues he supreme intangible qualities. Bringing all that and producing at 14th best really means he brings so much to the table. Like I stated: what’s important is no moment is too big for him. He doesn’t fold under pressure. Feels like to me he steps up and thrives. 

I said at best he is middle of the pack and no that isn’t pretty good that bad… because middle of the pack is like Kirk Cousins or Tannehill to me I would t want either guy think both teams were destined to fail and be nothing more the playoff teams at best because of those QBs. 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Kid from Miami and the kid from Kentucky and one other possible

I favor the Boston College kid

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How many playoff games has Wentz won again? ZERO! That’s your bar?

SO the SB year,if Wentz didn't get hurt you don;t think he could have won a playoff game?? AAAAAAHAHAHAHA

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You think three first rounders gets you the Bama QB?

Don’t want the bama QB or the Ohio st QB…. But yea 3 firsts likely gets you the QB you want. 
 

This is also all dependent on what our draft picks are in 2023 at that I think the Saints are going to be a terrible team this year top 10 pick. Think we will be middle of the pack again somewhere in the 15-19range.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Especially when you consider what a great leader he is

You are mistaking "nice guy" for leadership. everyone likes him,that is a PLUS,NOW he needs to PRODUCE

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And yet you constantly say he can’t be one of the best he won’t be Mahomes or Allen:… don’t want a middle of the pack QB if he isn’t pushing to be a top 5 player at QB he isn’t worth paying 

I don’t agree. But it is a matter of paying how much? Every player has his value. Some guys get paid the best at his position. Others get paid well but not top dollar. Team is made up of all different level of players.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How many playoff games has Wentz won again? ZERO! That’s your bar? Feels really dumb I have to point out they also drafted Hurts. Or who do you think did that?

2017 mvp caliber play before an ACL injury still holds the record for most passing TDs in franchise history played 13 games.

He did what Hurts did last season with a way worst supporting cast in 2019. Yet you love to talk about his competition level for how he got in…

But Hurts was great playing against those same bottom feeder teams to make the playoffs 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO the SB year,if Wentz didn't get hurt you don;t think he could have won a playoff game?? AAAAAAHAHAHAHA

I have my doubts actually. I was a big fan of him. But he’s just missing something. Durability and injury is just part of the game. Can’t win a playoff game on the trainers table. Just the way things work.

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

3 would be the logic expectation to trade for a QB. So your out of a first for 1 draft that’s it. 

IDK there should be a NICE QB at 10(assuming that is the NO pick). No need to even spend an extra 1. What we spend depends on who is there and how strongly we feel about one of them

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t agree. But it is a matter of paying how much? Every player has his value. Some guys get paid the best at his position. Others get paid well but not top dollar. Team is made up of all different level of players.

Low end starting QB is going to be around 35+m that handicaps your team. So yea the QB needs to be better then avg. the level of play for QB can’t be avg. in todays game making that kind of money. 

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You are mistaking "nice guy" for leadership. everyone likes him,that is a PLUS,NOW he needs to PRODUCE

Not at all. But he does seem like he’s great at both. Not even sure what you’ve heard or seen to even question his leadership. Seemed very clear and evident from the whole team as soon as he took over. Not just the O. Defenders too. It’s not just liking him. He leads by example. He works his butt off all year. 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK there should be a NICE QB at 10(assuming that is the NO pick). No need to even spend an extra 1. What we spend depends on who is there and how strongly we feel about one of them

We have no clue how the drafts play out or where we will be pickings. I’m just talking in general moving up significantly for a QB tends to cost 3 firsts. 
 

If the ended up being the cost it isn’t that terrible you still have the 1st in 2023 for the QB be out a first on 2024(we have two 2nds though) then back to normal in 2025.

On top of all that you have a QB back on a rookie deal so ton of cap savings there. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He works his butt off all year. 

He does literally what every other QB does pump the breaks on this. I don’t knock he is a good guy solid leader but his play is sub par.

Him working with a QB coach, brining players to practice with him etc. we see just about every QB doing this in the offseason now 

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You think three first rounders gets you the Bama QB?

Whether it’s couple first in the draft or couple of first for this so called aging veteran QB you seem to be available the picks will be spent. 
 

Taking the gamble on a Derek Carr or Kyler Murray whoever and his contract without picks seems far more risky to me then a rookie QB with cap space to build the team.