7 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yea mainly because Hurts couldn’t complete easy throws to save his life to wide open guys numerous times. 

Yep, pure Hurts hater agenda here.  If all you saw was Hurts struggling. The whole entire team struggled. Everybody.

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

But a punt was shanked...it's the key reason we were down 30-0.   Plus going back to the college game plan.  

The opponent had nothing to do with why we just couldn't own their DL and run all game like vs Detroit,  Jets,  etc.... in those games the punter and play calling were simply better.

   Oh yeah... Reagor dropping 2 punts was huge too. In a 30-0 game, those 5 yards are key.

They scored on a short field from that shank. Five yards on Reagor fumbling? They recovered the ball and scored. Heck yeah these things were key. The whole team stunk it up.

54 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We are just haters because we value a position that based on passing on there ability to pass the ball shocker 

Where you miss so much. QB1 is the leader of the team. Much more than just chucking the ball around to that job. You’ve been watching the game for so long to have not picked up on any of that.

14 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yep, pure Hurts hater agenda here.  If all you saw was Hurts struggling. The whole entire team struggled. Everybody.

Yea hurts missing WIDE OPEN WRs I’d the WRs struggling how dare they not be able to make the QB throw a good ball…

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Doesn't seem like anyone is in a rush to pay Murray or Lamar either?    Idk..  maybe throwing actually matters?

Baltimore runs their business much different than the rest of the league. I respect that. Seems more like the Cards are ready to throw anything at Murray. More like he is questioning them.

The Cards talk about having Murray around for years. He’s distanced himself from them.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Where you miss so much. QB1 is the leader of the team. Much more than just chucking the ball around to that job. You’ve been watching the game for so long to have not picked up on any of that.

Lmao 😂 you are the senses person ever football is way more then just intangibles as well need the TALENT to back it up especially at the top position QB. 
For you to have been watching football for so long and not picked up on that is the real concern 

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Doesn't seem like anyone is in a rush to pay Murray or Lamar either?    Idk..  maybe throwing actually matters?

Kyler is our long-term future, and there's no doubt that we want him here in Arizona."  their GM

 

FAIL….try again

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao 😂 you are the senses person ever football is way more then just intangibles as well need the TALENT to back it up especially at the top position QB. 
For you to have been watching football for so long and not picked up on that is the real concern 

I utilize all five senses

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I utilize all five senses

Clearly you don’t or your blind 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mostly because he’s only played one season. We just paid that other bone head the biggest contract in franchise history that blew up in our faces immediately.

Wow....you really have PTSD about Wentz....let it go man.  The team wasn't winning anything either way these last few years.   They got out of the contract with some nice draft picks that they flipped nicely.    Eventually we need to pay a guy to play QB ... just like #5, Vick, Wentz...etc.  That's how it works.    With the Eagles they jump out ahead and when they bail, they do pretty well...  unlike doing it Dallas way where BOTH Romo and Dak's deals are preventing them from signing free agents ,and so far no picks back either. 

 Relax and look at the big picture. Right now your QB needs to learn how to throw at the 2022 level... and if he sticks, he is going to get the biggest contract in team history.  It is what it is.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No Qb over 40 had ever won a SB….until one did.

Age isn't playing style.  Not even close.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yep, pure Hurts hater agenda here.  If all you saw was Hurts struggling. The whole entire team struggled. Everybody.

Usually happens if the QB does.   Tampa shut down his running and forced him to pass.    That's the typical game plan vs a running QB.  Different in the playoffs when the defense is in win or go home mode compared to a random regular season game when they go half way in on the strategy because they go back to a normal one the following week. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Where you miss so much. QB1 is the leader of the team. Much more than just chucking the ball around to that job. You’ve been watching the game for so long to have not picked up on any of that.

But what you miss....the rest don't matter if you can't chuck it around.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Baltimore runs their business much different than the rest of the league. I respect that. Seems more like the Cards are ready to throw anything at Murray. More like he is questioning them.

Is that what it seems to you?  Murray is turning down money because every team would pay him huge money after all his success?    Every team wants him so much?   

You respect Baltimore way of doing this... what do you expect the outcome to be here?  

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Kyler is our long-term future, and there's no doubt that we want him here in Arizona."  their GM

 

FAIL….try again

And where is the $$$$$$   

Because you have been paying attention this whole time...  but you can't recognize the standard line here???      " clear throat.... uhhhh you godda do a beder job dare" 

9 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Because Minshew is a superior passer even when he came into games last year you seen a massive difference.

Minshew was going blow for blow with Dallas with backups last year until we pulled the 2nd stringers. 

Well you know I said I felt he was better for this team. Must be frustrating for him. All the guys like him as well and let's face it,Jags had a crap team assembled for him in Jax. While I still consider him a BU,IMO he is a borderline starter with the right team (this team is right for him)

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yep, pure Hurts hater agenda here.  If all you saw was Hurts struggling. The whole entire team struggled. Everybody.

He's the "Leader" who failed to put the team on his back and carry them when needed. Let's see how he does this year when he is behind the 8 ball. been reading alot on him,he DID work very hard this off season,let's hope that pays dividends

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Kyler is our long-term future, and there's no doubt that we want him here in Arizona."  their GM

 

FAIL….try again

My(ex) son in law lives in Phoenix. They are 100% all in on Murray. They are rebuilding like we are. Still alot of pieces to go,they are about a year behind us in the process. I would imagine like us,they COULD draft a rook QB, but like us this year,they have other holes to fill. The FO is WORSE than ours as far as mismanagement of said roster. In a tough division also. My(ex) son in law said they are looking for .500 this year. Very similar position to what we had last year. Murray needs weapons and Murray will stay there until the team is rebuilt,just like Hurts is for us. In both cases it's "wait and see"

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

My(ex) son in law lives in Phoenix. They are 100% all in on Murray. They are rebuilding like we are. Still alot of pieces to go,they are about a year behind us in the process. I would imagine like us,they COULD draft a rook QB, but like us this year,they have other holes to fill. The FO is WORSE than ours as far as mismanagement of said roster. In a tough division also. My(ex) son in law said they are looking for .500 this year. Very similar position to what we had last year. Murray needs weapons and Murray will stay there until the team is rebuilt,just like Hurts is for us. In both cases it's "wait and see"

Murray wants to get paid now. These guys " without intangibles " are in a rush to get their money.... but Hurts will play for us at a discount because he has intangibles.   Only Ham sees it though, the rest of us expect Hurts to get paid if he sticks.

https://section215.com/2022/05/23/philadelphia-eagles-minshew-interest/  FWIW

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Murray wants to get paid now. These guys " without intangibles " are in a rush to get their money.... but Hurts will play for us at a discount because he has intangibles.   Only Ham sees it though, the rest of us expect Hurts to get paid if he sticks.

As far as my(ex) son in law,he thinks the Cards will pay him. IDK what the plan is long term out there,but similar to Carr,if he's going to stay he should be paid and really this is a case of FO mismanagement(what my SOL tells me). Not the QB's fault the FO can't build around him. Lost some top WR's,so it's a long year or 2 for them to get back

Brady vs Hurts-JMO. Hurts is a "nice guy",so is Brady,but on the field Brady takes no BS. He would have had a visible"fit" if Reagor dropped passes constantly and would demand his removal. Hurts needs to grow a pair and do the same. Sometimes being a leader means you cannot afford "nice" if you want to get the job done. Unfortunately the FO did the work for him and Reagor is on the back burner now. 

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

As far as my(ex) son in law,he thinks the Cards will pay him. IDK what the plan is long term out there,but similar to Carr,if he's going to stay he should be paid and really this is a case of FO mismanagement(what my SOL tells me). Not the QB's fault the FO can't build around him. Lost some top WR's,so it's a long year or 2 for them to get back

Their WRs were pretty good last year! What happened?

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Their WRs were pretty good last year! What happened?

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/crd/2021.htm