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1 hour ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Someone in my family tree fought at Antietam. Saw someone with the same last name that was in the battle, looked it up, and he was my great-great-grandfather (or something..don't remember how many "greats"). My wife has descendants that stormed Bunker Hill, and her family is still pretty rebellious.

I am the child of immigrants. I salute your ancestors.

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8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Based off the article and reports  3/5th of their starting oline isn’t vaccinated, Darius Leonard isn’t vaccinated and wentz isn’t. 

Yeah but wentz is the big ticket item and the "leader of the offense”

40 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Every time I log in to Twitter to see if there are any updates or hot takes today I'm reminded by Twitter that today is "acne positivity day"  WTF is that.  I wish there was a way to turn off the side bar that has ridiculous trends and sponsored content.

It's a game corporations play to drum up business.

16 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

So as the poster below mentions, I don't think JJAW will be on the team next year. I don't think Coutee would be either, and everything you've posted above doesn't scream to me, we should add this guy. We have enough injury prone players on the roster as is. Also, quite frankly, Coutee sucks. He's had 2 games of the 23 he's played where had over 100 yards receiving. His very first game he played, then one game last year he went off. That's it. 

Normally, with the Texans cutting a guy, I'd say take a look because they're a franchise in worse shape than us somehow. But Coutee isn't the guy I'd plant my flag for. And considering the Texans don't really have any WR's outside of Cooks, it's telling that they didn't think Coutee was good enough to stick around. 

None of that is to say JJAW doesn't suck as well. But why jettison a guy you know can contribute on ST for a guy who flashed a few times and likely would never see meaningful snaps here anyway? In addition to his injury history which we don't need any more of. 

First those articles I pointed out tell you he’s missed more games last two years because he was inactive on Sundays being a healthy scratch then injured. So when you bring up he’s only played 23 games cause injury that’s not true. The only year he best significant amount of time with injury was a 2018 when he was a rookie. The last two years the game said he hasn’t played happen mostly because he is a healthy and inactive scratch. So your point on he’s always hurt is not technically correct. So you’re arguing a point he’s hurt a lot is not true outside of 2018. He was inactive bunch of times in 2019 and 2020 where he was completely healthy. He missed five games in a row last year as a healthy scratch. 

Or it’s telling you that the Houston Texans the most dysfunctional team in the league does not know what they are doing.  There’s a much bigger chance the Houston Texans are a bunch of idiots like they’ve shown for the last year and a half and coutee winds up being a solid 4th or 5th wr on another team 

because I’ve at least seen Keke Coutee actually perform on offense in his playing time than Jjaw and he can also play special teams. And JJAW isn’t some outstanding special teams player. I can find 5th wrs who are special teams studs. At least coutee can Play ST and has at least shown some ability on offense. JJAW had a flash meanwhile coutee in playoff games had 11 reception game for 110 yards. Those 11 receptions are only three away from Jjaw’s entire NFL career of 14. Since the start of 2019 he’s only missed 1 game due to injuries. His 2018 (rookie season) he missed a bunch. Since then it’s been more the texans just inactivating him as a healthy scratch

 

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1 minute ago, justrelax said:

I am the child of immigrants. I salute your ancestors.

We all are at some point. 

13 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Have you read Chernow's book on Grant? It goes into really great detail about the relationship.  I think Lincoln ended up seeing in Grant someone who matched his humility and that he genuinely appreciated Lincoln's support. 

Yes, I have. Excellent book, though Chernow seems determined to include every nugget of research in everything he writes. Grant's autobiography is also a must.

1 minute ago, SNOORDA said:

Yeah but wentz is the big ticket item and the "leader of the offense”

Cause Darius Leonard isn’t their best player or leader of the defense? Add on Kelly and i believe Quentin Nelson are 2 of those offensive lineman who also didn’t. That’s three of their best players and captain on defense 

1 hour ago, Original Sin said:

The south was just outmanned 21 million to 6.5 million , hard to overcome those numbers , towards the end the south had way more guns then men . The impressive part is that they lasted as long as they did , and that they took it to the north the first 2 years .

I think viewing the South as taking it to the North in the first 2 years of the War is really tied to the Lost Cause narrative.  I don't think that's an accurate view of the war.  I mean Grant's western campaign was in early 1862.  The Union had secured New Orleans by April of 1862.  So a year into the conflict they lost their biggest port. Then you also have to take into account that most of the war was fought in the south.  The civilian population of the Union was left unscathed.  Southerners suffered far more because of the conflict.  It wasn't glorious or noble at all for most southerners.    

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Cause Darius Leonard isn’t their best player or leader of the defense? Add on Kelly and i believe Quentin Nelson are 2 of those offensive lineman who also didn’t. That’s three of their best players and captain on defense 

Reading an article on the Colts captains predictions, all players mentioned are non vaccinated players.  

29 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

 

No clue what’s correct. 

2 minutes ago, justrelax said:

That Ewell's failure to take Culp's Hill on July 1 turned the battle has long been debated. I don't think the issue is as clear as do some. Ewell's men were tired from their march and there were reports of Union forces approaching on the Hanover Road. There is a timing issue, too. Lee had ordered Ewell to take a position on the Confederate right. Ewell had sent a unit to see if Culp's Hill was occupied and they ran into an Indiana regiment that drove them back. Ewell thus believed Culp's Hill was occupied in force. He did talk Lee into letting him stay on the Confederate left but by then it was dark and too late to take the hill(s).

All that said, yes, I agree, if Ewell had taken Culp's Hill the Union position would have been almost untenable and I expect Meade would have pulled back to his prepared position at Pipe Creek.

As for the death of Stonewall Jackson, yes, it was a terrible blow but Jackson was but a unit commander though in that role he had almost no peer. The largest force he ever commanded was about 18,000 men. Lee, for all his brilliance, was a regional commander. What went on in other theaters of the war was out of their scope. Jackson never addressed logistics, lines of supply, etc. - the nuts and bolts of commanding an army. McClellan was good at that but he had no stomach for fighting. Grant had it all and, to a slightly lesser extent, so did Sherman. They could fight and they could run a large force. Their decision for Sherman to cut loose from supplies after Atlanta for his march, worked out between the two of them, was something fairly new. Grant had worked it out in the Vicksburg campaign. 

I would argue that Winfield Scott Hancock was Jackson's equal. I would certainly agree that no one in the Army of Northern Virginia after Jackson was nearly as good as he. 

Agreed on all points.  Ewell being asked to take a position on the right, rather than the left, just highlights the disorganization of the army at the onset of that battle.  They were scattered everywhere, and had no real sense of the land.  Their lines of communication were just scattered.

And yes, Hancock was an awesome general that is often forgotten about.  Being that corps commander level general though can really swing the tide of a battle.   Grant and Sherman absolutely changed the face of warfare.  Sherman in breaking away from the supply chain, only to pop out in Savannah was brand new.  Grant's trenches in the long campaign of the Wilderness and just constantly moving by the Left Flank was so foreign to the scope of what war had been up to that time, which organically morphed into the siege of Petersburg... really bringing in the age of trench warfare that was so devastating in WWI.  

Great discussion to be had on all points.  I'm not dogmatic about any of these, but feel that the loss of Jackson really was the turning point, because Lee having Jackson enabled him to be a far more aggressive general than his logistics should have allowed, and enabled him to take far greater risks than he should have been able to do.  And I think Gettysburg served as the lesson for Lee that he couldn't continue to take the same level of risks and expect the men under Ewell to do what they had done under Jackson.  (Recall, under Jackson, that corps was known as the foot cavalry, given their propensity to traverse huge distances relatively quickly and just pop up in unexpected places... as they did at Chancellorsville in splitting the army.)   And I think Lee, early on, treated Ewell's corps the same as he would have Jackson, but he just didn't have the same innate ability as a corps commander.

Embiid basically confirming no pro athlete wants to play in Philly due to the fans. 

11 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

This kind of comment is what makes me sad... 

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In response to Schefter's tweet, apparently reading one paragraph is too much effort.  

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Reading an article on the Colts captains predictions, all players mentioned are non vaccinated players.  

Exactly. You want to go after wentz for not being vaccinated go ahead but the most important players and pillars on the Colts besides wentz are also non vaccinated. 

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

 

The Jaguars end up with a better record then the Eagles me thinks

 

Kind of easy to win a lot when you play cupcakes, pay recruits, make your own schedule. 

I think the Jaguars don't have a good team.  My guess is they only have one or two wins in their first 8 games.  I think the Eagles aren't going to be good but they won't be as bad as the Jaguars.  

9 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Yes, I have. Excellent book, though Chernow seems determined to include every nugget of research in everything he writes. Grant's autobiography is also a must.

That's on my list of 'someday' books.   Is Chernow's book the one that the documentary "Grant" on the History Channel was based on?  

15 minutes ago, justrelax said:

That Ewell's failure to take Culp's Hill on July 1 turned the battle has long been debated. I don't think the issue is as clear as do some. Ewell's men were tired from their march and there were reports of Union forces approaching on the Hanover Road. There is a timing issue, too. Lee had ordered Ewell to take a position on the Confederate right. Ewell had sent a unit to see if Culp's Hill was occupied and they ran into an Indiana regiment that drove them back. Ewell thus believed Culp's Hill was occupied in force. He did talk Lee into letting him stay on the Confederate left but by then it was dark and too late to take the hill(s).

All that said, yes, I agree, if Ewell had taken Culp's Hill the Union position would have been almost untenable and I expect Meade would have pulled back to his prepared position at Pipe Creek.

As for the death of Stonewall Jackson, yes, it was a terrible blow but Jackson was but a unit commander though in that role he had almost no peer. The largest force he ever commanded was about 18,000 men. Lee, for all his brilliance, was a regional commander. What went on in other theaters of the war was out of their scope. Jackson never addressed logistics, lines of supply, etc. - the nuts and bolts of commanding an army. McClellan was good at that but he had no stomach for fighting. Grant had it all and, to a slightly lesser extent, so did Sherman. They could fight and they could run a large force. Their decision for Sherman to cut loose from supplies after Atlanta for his march, worked out between the two of them, was something fairly new. Grant had worked it out in the Vicksburg campaign. 

I would argue that Winfield Scott Hancock was Jackson's equal. I would certainly agree that no one in the Army of Northern Virginia after Jackson was nearly as good as he. 

I have a naive question.

Wasn't Hood's failure to capture the Roundtops as much as a failed opportunity as was Ewell's failure to capture Culp's Hill?

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Cause Darius Leonard isn’t their best player or leader of the defense? Add on Kelly and i believe Quentin Nelson are 2 of those offensive lineman who also didn’t. That’s three of their best players and captain on defense 

It’s a QB driven league. They’re going to most praise and blame. 
 

We should see if the guy on the left is available. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's on my list of 'someday' books.   Is Chernow's book the one that the documentary "Grant" on the History Channel was based on?  

The good thing about that book is that you can pick it up and put it down.   I read it over the course of a year.  

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Embiid basically confirming no pro athlete wants to play in Philly due to the fans. 

Embiid can't speak on behalf of all pro athletes.  But its cool.  Do you have a source on this comment, or just throwing stuff at the wall?  

3 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

It’s a QB driven league. They’re going to most praise and blame. 
 

We should see if the guy on the left is available. 

That’s fine but that doesn’t take away from the fact you have four of your best players on your team aren’t vaccinated. You don’t think the Colts are going to see a drop off off if Kelly, Nelson, and Darius Leonard aren’t out there due to covid? When the top five players on your team aren’t vaccinated it might speak more to your organization handling and educating their players then just one specific player in the organization

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

First those articles I pointed out tell you he’s missed more games last two years because he was in active on Sundays being a healthy scratch then injured. So when you bring up he’s only played 23 games cause injury that’s not true. The only year he best significant amount of time with injury was a 2018 when he was a rookie. The last two years the game said he hasn’t played happen mostly because he is a healthy and active scratch. So your point on he’s always hurt os not technically correct. So you’re arguing a point he’s always hurt that is not true. He was inactive bunch of times in 2019 and 2020 where he was completely healthy. He missed five games in a row last year as a healthy scratch. 

Or it’s telling you that the Houston Texans the most dysfunctional team in the league does not know what they are doing.  There’s a much bigger chance the Houston Texans are a bunch of idiots like they’ve shown for the last year and a half and coutee winds up being a solid 4th or 5th wr

because I’ve at least seen Keke Coutee actually perform on offense in his playing time than Jjaw and he can also play special teams. Since the start of 2019 he’s only missed 1 game due to injuries. His 2018 (rookie season) he missed a bunch. Since then it’s been more the texans just inactivating him as a healthy scratch

 

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Doesn't it concern you that he was a healthy scratch for that many games? Maybe it's the Texans being dumb, but I find it difficult to believe they just would refuse to dress him if he was good.

In the games he did play, he averaged 3.6 catches per game, with 41 yards per game. That's not good. 

Also, JJAW is 6'2, 225 compared to Coutee's 5'11, 180 lbs frame. It's very possible our coaches want that bigger bodied receiver to complement our smaller guys. 

Again, Coutee has had some nice flashes and ultimately is a better receiver than JJAW. For the make up of this team, and for what Coutee really brings to us, I don't see the value in bringing him in. I just don't think he's that good. 

1 minute ago, Desertbirds said:

I have a naive question.

Wasn't Hood's failure to capture the Roundtops as much as a failed opportunity as was Ewell's failure to capture Culp's Hill?

That's a great question, but I don't think Hood was in Gettysburg until late that night (IIRC), but was then tasked with hitting the Union leftt the next day.  They kept moving to the right to get around the flank, and the Union matched their movements, finally getting to Little Roundtop and holding it with Colonel Vincent Strong's troops, including the 2nd Maine under Col. Joshua Chamberlain.   But, I don't believe that Hood was in place to make a move on the Union left on July 1st... Longstreet was the final corps to move up into Gettysburg... with Pickett's Division in the rear, who didn't actually show up in Gettysburg until the night of July 2nd, leading them to be the logical selection for 'Pickett's Charge' as they were the only division that hadn't been engaged previously (aka, they were the freshest).

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

No clue what’s correct. 

I actually thought Auman’s reporting seemed odd  , but who knows 

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