Ready for those practice tweets today, been waiting since January for them. 

1 hour ago, Wentz_Era said:

I get what you meant, but in the grand scheme of things, it was a pretty darn good draft considering how much the SB depended on those players.

2016 was objectively a good draft.  Wentz, Seumalo and Mills were all starters for the better part of 5 years (though heaven knows I’m not high on Mills, he started for the whole tenure).  Their third pick wasn’t even until the 150s

2018 still has a chance to be a really good draft depending on what they get from Goedert, Mailata and Maddox moving forward 

2 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

They got a lower score than Russia in qualifying with Biles competing, without Biles they were worse, Biles cost them nothing. The other gymnasts weren't good enough to win Gold period.

Biles in the qualifying was not as good as she used to be.  Her landing was off.  The Russian beat them in that round.  

Further, Biles was not performing well, not at the level of her past excellence, in the US Championship and team trial.  The pressure was affecting her then and it was magnified during the Olympics.  All the hype of GOAT and her feature commercials must have got to her and affected her mental status. 

One encouraging sign was that she was very well involved in the cheering for her teammates at the sideline after she withdrew.  Being involved yet not under the spot light to perform could help her to regain the joy of the games.  Maybe she is not completely out of this Olympics yet.

Makes all the sense in the world as to why Hurts has a visor, now. Makes the defence have a slightly harder job seeing the one read his eyes are locked on.

We're onto you, Hurts.

Nice article about Lane Johnson's "Bro Barn" where a lot of guys have been working out.  A few quotes stuck out to me. 

The first, regarding Hurts...uh OK.  Check his workout highlights he posts.

The 2nd quote I look at in two parts.  First, locker room banter and making fun of each other is one of the best things about sports and building a team.  Being able to rag on your buddies and get it back is one of the ultimate signs of acceptance to a team.  I wish our society wasn't so thin skinned.  Then regarding Herbig.  It's clear to me that he was just the big fat kid who was good at football.  He now has to work on being an athlete.  I'm really excited to see what he brings to the table.

Lastly, Lane Johnson, for as great as he is, only has 3 Pro Bowls?  Thought he had more.  4 more years is his goal. 

-Hurts, not one to put the spotlight on himself, typically doesn't allow cameras into his workouts and declined to be interviewed by ESPN about them.

-Being on their best behavior doesn't keep the NFL players from making fun of one another. Herbig is often the target. He has been known to "bust his ass" (lose his balance and fall) during box jumps, as he did Monday. He also stumbled out of the gates one time during 10-yard splits and hit the deck, drawing the biggest smiles of the day. To this group, there is no greater gift.  But Herbig has also been one of the biggest success stories of this Eagles' offseason. He has dropped roughly 50 pounds and was on target to arrive at training camp at 325, while gaining strength. Some of those strides have been in pursuit of Johnson.

-Johnson, a three-time Pro Bowler, is entering his ninth NFL season. The scars running down either side of his ankle, the result of multiple surgeries over the past year, are reminders the game is taking its toll. The plan for now is to play four more seasons,

 

 

11 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

to be clear here, I dont think Biles has, or has been diagnosed today with any mental illness. By her answers in the media after the event it really just sounds like she was just nervous. Thats totally different. One is acceptable and deserving of support. The other is chicken ish, and deserving of blame for letting the team down. 

Totally agree with your take

If people were watching, she has been crappy going all the way back to US qualifications. She was faced with her own mortality and failure and decided to quit and cite "mental health"

Thats fine. But Im not celebrating her as some sort of hero.  She took a spot from another potentially more deserving athlete and then was clowning around after quitting.  That tells me all I need to know.  She should go sit in the bleachers and let the other athletes compete, if youre worried about your mental health you dont sit around mugging for the cameras and laughing and joking with your teammates who are trying to compensate for you quitting on them mid-competition.

But of course now we have to celebrate this surrender as if its somehow heroic to quit at the first sign of failure. 

I did wonder earlier if Biles just doesn't want to be there and isn't feeling the desire to compete any longer; there is nothing wrong in saying, I'm done with the silly training schedule, done with the wear and tear on my body;  I just want to live my life and enjoy the fruits of my labour.  I wish Simone Biles ongoing health and happiness; she's been a great Olympian and an inspiration to many. 

However, there is nothing wrong in people asking questions of Biles decision or the timing of it. If we can't discuss her decision to drop another team mate in it at short notice (not considering their mental health outcomes), without the screeching harridans shouting people down, there is something wrong.

11 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Totally agree with your take

If people were watching, she has been crappy going all the way back to US qualifications. She was faced with her own mortality and failure and decided to quit and cite "mental health"

Thats fine. But Im not celebrating her as some sort of hero.  She took a spot from another potentially more deserving athlete and then was clowning around after quitting.  That tells me all I need to know.  She should go sit in the bleachers and let the other athletes compete, if youre worried about your mental health you dont sit around mugging for the cameras and laughing and joking with your teammates who are trying to compensate for you quitting on them mid-competition.

But of course now we have to celebrate this surrender as if its somehow heroic to quit at the first sign of failure. 

So you're her psychologist???

You know her mental state???

Her own teammates said they support her and that they wouldn't be where they were without her yet your observation of them invalidates their own statements???

If she says she needs a break to recharge mentally and emotionally why question it?

Why are you or anyone else so bent about her withdrawing from the competition?

Did you and others have money riding on it?

I just don't get why grown men in a football message board would be so upset that a struggling athlete would cite mental health and detractors feel the need to rip her and minimize mental health.

The tropes being repeated on this board about the situation do nothing to decrease the negative stigmas around mental health.

8 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

I did wonder earlier if Biles just doesn't want to be there and isn't feeling the desire to compete any longer; there is nothing wrong in saying, I'm done with the silly training schedule, done with the wear and tear on my body;  I just want to live my life and enjoy the fruits of my labour.  I wish Simone Biles ongoing health and happiness; she's been a great Olympian and an inspiration to many. 

However, there is nothing wrong in people asking questions of Biles decision or the timing of it. If we can't discuss her decision to drop another team mate in it at short notice (not considering their mental health outcomes), without the screeching harridans shouting people down, there is something wrong.

Questioning it is fine 

Drawing conclusions and disparaging her or her choice or minimizing the seriousness of mental health is not.

7 hours ago, WentzFan11 said:

 

By far the worst take with all this Covid stuff. 
 

here’s the tweets since he’ll probably delete them

 

Wow, I never realized the sentiment among some players against the vaccine was that strong.  I figured the players that didn't want to get it were fine with just not being forced to get it.  Never realized that (some) players really think this is an "us vs. them" war. 

Granted, Rivera tweeted it first but his tweet had more to do with letting people know that he's "nervous" because he has a weakened immune system.  He never once said he wanted the players to be mandated to get the vaccine nor did he blame them.  Being "frustrated" because you fear for your health/life isn't the same as "blaming the players".

Then TJ Ward comes back and basically tells him to retire because he didn't take good enough care of himself and if he were to get covid, it's his own fault.  (This is after Rivera beat cancer).   

Is this really happening? Smh.

 

5 minutes ago, Utebird said:

So you're her psychologist???

You know her mental state???

Her own teammates said they support her and that they wouldn't be where they were without her yet your observation of them invalidates their own statements???

If she says she needs a break to recharge mentally and emotionally why question it?

Why are you or anyone else so bent about her withdrawing from the competition?

Did you and others have money riding on it?

I just don't get why grown men in a football message board would be so upset that a struggling athlete would cite mental health and detractors feel the need to rip her and minimize mental health.

The tropes being repeated on this board about the situation do nothing to decrease the negative stigmas around mental health.

You think her teammates are going to criticize her publicly?  Dont be foolish

Great, she needs a break.  She should have not gone to Tokyo then because shes been struggling for months now.  Sorry, thats not how it works.  You dont get to show up and then quit halfway through the competition without any criticism.  

Spare me the white knight act, I couldn't care less and I don't feel badly at all, save your guilt trip for someone else.

Somehow shes healthy enough to stand around and joke around in front of the cameras, she just can't compete.  Not buying it.  She knew shed fail so she quit. 

Athletes are humans, they all have private lives.  That's why the elite of the elite are adored the way they are, because theyre able to rise above those challenges and achieve remarkable things.  She failed.  Period.  Its not an achievement to quit

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Wow, I never realized the sentiment among some players against the vaccine was that strong.  I figured the players that didn't want to get it were fine with just not being forced to get it.  Never realized that (some) players really think this is an "us vs. them" war. 

Granted, Rivera tweeted it first but his tweet had more to do with letting people know that he's "nervous" because he has a weakened immune system.  He never once said he wanted the players to be mandated to get the vaccine nor did he blame them.  Then TJ Ward comes back and basically tells him to retire because he didn't take good enough care of himself and if he were to get covid, it's his own fault.  (This is after Rivera beat cancer).   

Is this really happening? Smh.

 

A football team is like a family and as s family they should look out for each other 

I recently went out of state to visit my family 

Before leaving I talked to them and said we wouldn't be visiting anyone that wasn't vaccinated as I'm immuno depressed because of cancer, most my family understood this and cared enough about me to be vaccinated before we visited, except for my sister, she refused to get vaccinated but was adamant that I come and visit her and her kid, ward is the entitled sister that doesn't care about anyone in his family of the NFL with his statements👎

5 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Questioning it is fine 

Drawing conclusions and disparaging her or her choice or minimizing the seriousness of mental health is not.

Yeah, people are speaking with way too much certainty with their opinion on this topic. 

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

THIS* Is the reason why... a struggling sports player is an oxymoron. 

She can donate her multi multi million dollar networth and go work a normal 9 to 5 and be stress free. 

Mental health is easily fixed which is why i dont give it a pass.

1) Retire

2) Quit and go do something else.

3) STFU and compete. 

Not hard

Stop. You don’t know what you are talking about. 

All these "tough guys" in here judging Biles are, in my view, disgraceful, loathsome, and ignorant.

I'm sure we'd all be perfectly fine with McNabb up and quitting during the middle of a Super Bowl.

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

The problem with people like you, you over complicate things. "dont know what im talking about". 

If the fire is hot, dont put your hand in it. 

If your burnt out, unhappy with travel, stressed over the competition... quit. 

Taking breaks, or going to talk about your feelings only teaches you to decompartmentalize.

DONT LIKE IT, GO DO SOMETHING ELSE. 

Lol. Yes, that’s the problem here. 

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

Guys like you giving a sports players worth millions of dollars a pass is whats wrong with this country. 

You have a job, do your job. dont like it, too stressful quit. 

She has ZERO clue what stress is. In 10 days shes going to take a private flight, back to her million dollar home, to spend with her million dollar boyfriend. Stess my ****

Pure ignorance. Simply amazing. 

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

This is one of those times where I dont know if I should believe science or not. (the media usually flip flops on this and I wait for them to tell me)

Covid death rates to "normal people" are EXTREMELY EXTREMELY LOW. ]

Covid death rates to people with underlying medical issues (are still very low) but higher then "regular people"

One would say that TJ ward is 10000000000% correct. The Media, CDC, has been telling these people to STAY HOME, but because he's a football coach he's allowed to get on a plane with hundreds others, to stay in hotels with thousand others then coaching the game in tens of thousands. 

TJ Ward said Ron Rivera chose to get cancer. In no way is he even remotely correct 

49 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Nice article about Lane Johnson's "Bro Barn" where a lot of guys have been working out.  A few quotes stuck out to me. 

The first, regarding Hurts...uh OK.  Check his workout highlights he posts.

The 2nd quote I look at in two parts.  First, locker room banter and making fun of each other is one of the best things about sports and building a team.  Being able to rag on your buddies and get it back is one of the ultimate signs of acceptance to a team.  I wish our society wasn't so thin skinned.  Then regarding Herbig.  It's clear to me that he was just the big fat kid who was good at football.  He now has to work on being an athlete.  I'm really excited to see what he brings to the table.

Lastly, Lane Johnson, for as great as he is, only has 3 Pro Bowls?  Thought he had more.  4 more years is his goal. 

-Hurts, not one to put the spotlight on himself, typically doesn't allow cameras into his workouts and declined to be interviewed by ESPN about them.

-Being on their best behavior doesn't keep the NFL players from making fun of one another. Herbig is often the target. He has been known to "bust his ass" (lose his balance and fall) during box jumps, as he did Monday. He also stumbled out of the gates one time during 10-yard splits and hit the deck, drawing the biggest smiles of the day. To this group, there is no greater gift.  But Herbig has also been one of the biggest success stories of this Eagles' offseason. He has dropped roughly 50 pounds and was on target to arrive at training camp at 325, while gaining strength. Some of those strides have been in pursuit of Johnson.

-Johnson, a three-time Pro Bowler, is entering his ninth NFL season. The scars running down either side of his ankle, the result of multiple surgeries over the past year, are reminders the game is taking its toll. The plan for now is to play four more seasons,

 

 

 

 

 

Grrrrr Hurts.  Grrrrr someone speaking positively of Hurts.  

 

Grrrrr how dare they

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

 

Seriously, explain the ignorance. If she feels stressed, she shouldn't do it. totally on bored. But quit and Leave. Get off the team, go back to a normal day job. 

I just googled. there's close to 5 million Americans in the gymnastics programs. That's about 5 million girls who would love to be there, who wouldnt be stressed playing a game and making millions. 

No hard feelings, retire. You know, so you dont have any more stress issues. 

I was reading the first part where he suggests Ron should retire. I doubled back and posted that i didnt understand the 2nd tweet. 

There isn’t enough time in my day to explain to you the depth of your ignorance regarding mental health issues or your stupidity regarding Biles’ "stress free life.” 

When is practice today 

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

You think her teammates are going to criticize her publicly?  Dont be foolish

Great, she needs a break.  She should have not gone to Tokyo then because shes been struggling for months now.  Sorry, thats not how it works.  You dont get to show up and then quit halfway through the competition without any criticism.  

Spare me the white knight act, I couldn't care less and I don't feel badly at all, save your guilt trip for someone else.

Somehow shes healthy enough to stand around and joke around in front of the cameras, she just can't compete.  Not buying it.  She knew shed fail so she quit. 

Athletes are humans, they all have private lives.  That's why the elite of the elite are adored the way they are, because theyre able to rise above those challenges and achieve remarkable things.  She failed.  Period.  Its not an achievement to quit

You really think the us Olympic committee after spending tons of money marketing her as the face of the games is going to just let her not go to the Olympics.

She had a lot of pressure on her, she's had pressure in her before she's a multiple gold medal winner in her skirt and one of the most decorated athletes if all time, it's not like she has a History if not meeting the moment 

For whatever reason(s) it all came to the forefront at the Olympics during the team event 

Maybe she was tired before that and didn't say anything because she felt shed let millions of people down including dudes from an eagles message board. Who knows how she was feeling or her mental state before during and after.

I'm not her psychologist nor are you nor is anyone other than her psychologist.

If biles says she's not mentally emotionally well enough to compete then why doubt it???

We don't know the circumstances that led up to that we can speculate but who knows what she's been through other than her.

One can accuse her excuse as a cop out which one has or one can say what's more important her mental health as a human being or her winning a gold medal so I can feel better about what...

Why would people call her choice courageous?

Think about it, one has been touted as the goat and made the face of a national competition with astronomical expectations and in the face of all that instead of harming herself to appease others expectations of her she prioritized  her own mental /emotional health over the expectations out on her by a nation.

Say what you will but that takes guts, and shouldnt be shamed or reviled or looked down in as failure.

A lot of people when they don't see a way out instead of seeking mental health seek other means to escape their pain, often those means include self harm/suicide.

Simone biles actions can be an example to those struggling with mental health that it's never a bad time or reason to seek mental health help, if she can do it mid Olympic competition than why can't anyone else???

Is it disappointing the way she went out? Yes I'm sure it's disappointing for her and a lot of people, bit I'm not disappointed she didn't take her mental and emotional health seriously.

It's unfortunate and she said so that it came to the forefront during Olympic competition.

 

55 minutes ago, Penn7980 said:

Biles in the qualifying was not as good as she used to be.  Her landing was off.  The Russian beat them in that round.  

Further, Biles was not performing well, not at the level of her past excellence, in the US Championship and team trial.  The pressure was affecting her then and it was magnified during the Olympics.  All the hype of GOAT and her feature commercials must have got to her and affected her mental status. 

One encouraging sign was that she was very well involved in the cheering for her teammates at the sideline after she withdrew.  Being involved yet not under the spot light to perform could help her to regain the joy of the games.  Maybe she is not completely out of this Olympics yet.

My point is Biles was still the best the US had, that's why she qualified for all around and individual apparatus, putting in one of the other US gymnasts who couldn't beat a 90% Biles was not going to win Gold.

9 minutes ago, justrelax said:

All these "tough guys" in here judging Biles are, in my view, disgraceful, loathsome, and ignorant.

I haven't read all of the comments about Biles but what's wrong with judging and discussing our thoughts on an athlete who quits in the middle of the Olympics?  It's unheard of and I don't think we've had anyone do it in my lifetime.

What if Kevin Durant walked away from team USA?  Heck what if LeBron, Kobe or MJ walked away from the team mid-games when they were on the Olympic team? Can you imagine the backlash?  

Was Vontae Davis portrayed as a hero and a brave man for retiring during an NFL game?

What if the Eagles make it to the Super Bowl riding an MVP season from Jalen Hurts and then come halftime he decides he can't hack it and hangs them up?  Would he be an open target to criticism or would he be hailed as a hero?

Is the gushing support and cheering of her decision because she's a woman?  Do women want the exact same treatment that men get?  If so, deal with the negative comments and people who are against the decision.